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Post by DodgyDino on Dec 29, 2023 21:54:25 GMT
Right I've got my tin hat on but can't say I'm bothered about the flack I'm about to get..... Like ive said in the title some stoke fans are pathetic reading some of the comments in the match thread..... some of you are unbelievable. I'm not sure what you expect... yes Watford were down to 10 men but you feel we've got a god given right to just roll them over. Overall our general play is far better than it was a few week ago, playing with much more purpose and higher tempo and a desire to win. I just don't know what some of you expect. Yes there's a lot of room for improvement but it doesn't happen over night.... The new gaffers just come in and taken 5 points from 9, We are now unbeaten in 5. Jesus just give it a rest and get behind the team. I can't believe all the moaning at times
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Post by collo68 on Dec 29, 2023 21:56:00 GMT
Right I've got my tin hat on but can't say I'm bothered about the flack I'm about to get..... Like ive said in the title some stoke fans are pathetic reading some of the comments in the match thread..... some of you are unbelievable. I'm not sure what you expect... yes Watford were down to 10 men but you feel we've got a god given right to just roll them over. Overall our general play is far better than it was a few week ago, playing with much more purpose and higher tempo and a desire to win. I just don't know what some of you expect. Yes there's a lot of room for improvement but it doesn't happen over night.... The new gaffers just come in and taken 5 points from 9, We are now unbeaten in 5. Jesus just give it a rest and get behind the team. I can't believe all the moaning at times Well said, don’t let the idiots get to you 👍
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 29, 2023 21:56:27 GMT
Name names so we know which one of us has upset you the most.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 29, 2023 21:56:36 GMT
Imagine football fans coming onto a football message board and giving an opinion/discussing tonight’s game. I know Dino, start a petition to get such boards abolished and may we all live in silence.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 29, 2023 21:56:57 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality.
Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time.
Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either.
Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 29, 2023 21:57:38 GMT
Some are very nice
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 29, 2023 21:58:07 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality. Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time. Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either. Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable. The difference this time is we have a manager who can see what all of us can, there’s hope for once.
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Post by lordb on Dec 29, 2023 21:58:35 GMT
Imagine football fans coming onto a football message board and giving an opinion/discussing tonight’s game. I know Dino, start a petition to get such boards abolished and may we all live in silence. Not at all Perfectly acceptable for anyone to whinge, equally perfectly acceptable to point out said whinging can at times be utter bollocks
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 29, 2023 21:58:37 GMT
People being arsed about comments said in the heat of the moment on the match day thread is one of my favourite genres of mardarsery.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 29, 2023 21:58:40 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality. Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time. Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either. Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable. The difference this time is we have a manager who can see what all of us can, there’s hope for once. Spot on.
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Post by Lesalanos on Dec 29, 2023 21:59:10 GMT
Right I've got my tin hat on but can't say I'm bothered about the flack I'm about to get..... Like ive said in the title some stoke fans are pathetic reading some of the comments in the match thread..... some of you are unbelievable. I'm not sure what you expect... yes Watford were down to 10 men but you feel we've got a god given right to just roll them over. Overall our general play is far better than it was a few week ago, playing with much more purpose and higher tempo and a desire to win. I just don't know what some of you expect. Yes there's a lot of room for improvement but it doesn't happen over night.... The new gaffers just come in and taken 5 points from 9, We are now unbeaten in 5. Jesus just give it a rest and get behind the team. I can't believe all the moaning at times Spot on, with this squad and the players he had to call in we’ve already seen an improvement. Get us away from relegation, sign a GK and CB give the kids a game and we can push on.
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Post by lordb on Dec 29, 2023 21:59:45 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality. Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time. Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either. Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable. Genuinely didn't see that at all If anything we were trying to score the perfect goal Last 10 minutes were ragged mind
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 29, 2023 22:00:19 GMT
Right I've got my tin hat on but can't say I'm bothered about the flack I'm about to get..... Like ive said in the title some stoke fans are pathetic reading some of the comments in the match thread..... some of you are unbelievable. I'm not sure what you expect... yes Watford were down to 10 men but you feel we've got a god given right to just roll them over. Overall our general play is far better than it was a few week ago, playing with much more purpose and higher tempo and a desire to win. I just don't know what some of you expect. Yes there's a lot of room for improvement but it doesn't happen over night.... The new gaffers just come in and taken 5 points from 9, We are now unbeaten in 5. Jesus just give it a rest and get behind the team. I can't believe all the moaning at times Just some🤔
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Post by thisisouryear on Dec 29, 2023 22:00:47 GMT
We will have disappointing games and results until Ste gets us fitter and more of a unit. Some of the criticism is very harsh. Just need to get behind the whole team.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 29, 2023 22:02:38 GMT
Imagine football fans coming onto a football message board and giving an opinion/discussing tonight’s game. I know Dino, start a petition to get such boards abolished and may we all live in silence. Not at all Perfectly acceptable for anyone to whinge, equally perfectly acceptable to point out said whinging can at times be utter bollocks It’s not utter bollocks though, it’s their opinion. That’s what this board is for. Their opinion is as much valid as yours! None of us work in pro football, and if your opinion was always right then maybe you should be managing Real Madrid or Man City not typing away on here every day of the week.
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Post by lancer on Dec 29, 2023 22:04:21 GMT
He doesn't even know his best team yet, he hasn't had time to learn half of their names. He has trying what he want to try and is certainly motivating whoever he plays. I'm over the moon about our prospects without looking for promotion this season. We already have a decent squad and a couple of players in vital positions, a manager/ head coach that knows how he wants make us look a very good bet for the near future.
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Post by lordb on Dec 29, 2023 22:04:37 GMT
Not at all Perfectly acceptable for anyone to whinge, equally perfectly acceptable to point out said whinging can at times be utter bollocks It’s not utter bollocks though, it’s their opinion. That’s what this board is for. Their opinion is as much valid as yours! None of us work in pro football, and if your opinion was always right then maybe you should be managing Real Madrid or Man City not typing away on here every day of the week. My opinion is some of the comments made is utter Bollocks
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 29, 2023 22:06:49 GMT
Right I've got my tin hat on but can't say I'm bothered about the flack I'm about to get..... Like ive said in the title some stoke fans are pathetic reading some of the comments in the match thread..... some of you are unbelievable. I'm not sure what you expect... yes Watford were down to 10 men but you feel we've got a god given right to just roll them over. Overall our general play is far better than it was a few week ago, playing with much more purpose and higher tempo and a desire to win. I just don't know what some of you expect. Yes there's a lot of room for improvement but it doesn't happen over night.... The new gaffers just come in and taken 5 points from 9, We are now unbeaten in 5. Jesus just give it a rest and get behind the team. I can't believe all the moaning at times Here’s a revolutionary idea for you. Football Forums may contain ideas and opinions contrary to your own. Most fans will accept that what we have just witnessed exposed so many problems it isn’t funny. Suck it up sweetheart. I don’t hear anyone criticising the manager.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 29, 2023 22:06:49 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality. Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time. Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either. Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable. Genuinely didn't see that at all If anything we were trying to score the perfect goal Last 10 minutes were ragged mind Interesting. I thought from the moment they went to 10 our players lost their heads and couldn't get a foothold into the game. Bar the odd bit of overplaying we didn't trouble them at all. Think quite a few of the players that came on in the second half should be out of the door pretty quickly.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Dec 29, 2023 22:07:12 GMT
Let’s all hand over our season tickets guys…
We have a better Stoke fan than us here and we aren’t worthy.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 29, 2023 22:07:17 GMT
I don’t see much reason to moan at anything. Watford were still a threat with 10 men, and we struggled with the subs we rightly had to make.
Take a point and move on, especially away at Watford. Of course you’d like to think 10 men should be cast easily aside but they weren’t and it’s not a disaster. You know Schumacher will be disappointed that we didn’t capitalise, but it’s a really strong start overall.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 29, 2023 22:08:25 GMT
Mmaee and Bae really should have scored once they’d gone down to 10. Chances I’d expect any team to score against us tbh. Keeper did ok on both though tbf.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 29, 2023 22:08:49 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality. Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time. Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either. Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable. Genuinely didn't see that at all If anything we were trying to score the perfect goal Last 10 minutes were ragged mind We looked like a team set for a hiding on 25 mins and always frustrating when you can't break down 10
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Dec 29, 2023 22:09:03 GMT
Not blaming the manager tonite some of the players didn't step up
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Post by pavel on Dec 29, 2023 22:09:18 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality. Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time. Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either. Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable. I think I saw a team trying too hard after they went to ten men and rushing things. It was not helped by the lack of quality subs and ours killed the game for us. We were ragged but Johnson, no pass forward, no move, Hoever, lost in space and never in position along with Wes, static and embarrassingly slow totally disrupted us and killed all momentum. Schumacher willl have learnt a lot from that and I hope it will be addressed in January. 10 men teams can be very difficult to beat at times and I think it was one of those especially for a team that is just learning how to play football again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2023 22:09:27 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality. Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time. Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either. Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable. Spot on mate.
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Post by lordb on Dec 29, 2023 22:09:40 GMT
Genuinely didn't see that at all If anything we were trying to score the perfect goal Last 10 minutes were ragged mind Interesting. I thought from the moment they went to 10 our players lost their heads and couldn't get a foothold into the game. Bar the odd bit of overplaying we didn't trouble them at all. Think quite a few of the players that came on in the second half should be out of the door pretty quickly. We made 3 clear chances, Junho should score, Baker too, Mmaee unlucky some really good inter passing but yes overplayed at times
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 29, 2023 22:11:50 GMT
It's disappointment and a successful club needs that. Any manager would also propogate that mentality too as it's a winning mentality. Teams should be beating 10 men all day long, especially when playing against them for that amount of time. Happy clapping it will only engender a mentality of the type we've seen for the last 6 years, where a 15th place finish will do. It won't and performances like that tonight against ten won't do either. Sure, keep it in perspective but let's not hold back and accept it. Some of those performances second half were not acceptable. Unacceptable performances or just exhaustion? I thought we looked totally shattered at the end of the game. Pearson off injured, Haksabanovic and Bae totally shattered. Any team would be weaker in midfield when you have to withdraw your best player to keep him fit for the next game. I'm no expert, but fitness has been a fundamental issue for me for three years now. The manager also has had his first taste of the Wesley puzzle, where we struggle to maintain any kind of foothold when he enters onto the pitch. I'm not sure how to get the best out of him.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 29, 2023 22:12:11 GMT
Don't get too upset by the match day thread, at various points you can guarantee that the following players are shit: Bonham Hoever McNally Wilmot Rose Stevens Gooch Johnson Pearson Laurent Burger Vidigal Mmaee Gayle Wesley.
The only players who escape the wrath are Junior, Baker and Bae because they haven't played too often but the more Bae plays the more shit he becomes according to the experts. Baker's a fall guy waiting to happen as soon as he starts regularly though.
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Post by Gods on Dec 29, 2023 22:14:15 GMT
Interesting. I thought from the moment they went to 10 our players lost their heads and couldn't get a foothold into the game. Bar the odd bit of overplaying we didn't trouble them at all. Think quite a few of the players that came on in the second half should be out of the door pretty quickly. We made 3 clear chances, Junho should score, Baker too, Mmaee unlucky some really good inter passing but yes overplayed at times I just left the ground, exactly this, a few too many fancy flicks and their keepers block when Junho was through on goal and his finger tip save from Mmaee were excellent. I'm happy with a point, it's a bastard of a place to play under floodlights in a night match and Watford have coruscating pace on the break.
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