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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 30, 2023 13:56:32 GMT
He saved us a goal yesterday with that shot from range he tipped onto the bar. I think a lot of keepers get nowhere near that as it screams in the top corner.
Agreed with everyone we need better but credit where its due that is a top class save.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 30, 2023 14:00:50 GMT
There are no such a keeper who hasn't got an occasional mistake in him. Since becoming the no 1 keeper Bonham has done couple of mistakes which is not much at all and considering his game savers I'd say he's done very well indeed. A couple? He’s made 3 in the last 9 games alone. That’s not normal or acceptable. It is bang on average for a back up keeper in this division. Exactly what Bonham is - a Championship number 2 on a sensible wage. He has saved us more points than he has cost us on his recent run. Can’t expect any more.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 14:01:56 GMT
A couple? He’s made 3 in the last 9 games alone. That’s not normal or acceptable. It is bang on average for a back up keeper in this division. Exactly what Bonham is - a Championship number 2 on a sensible wage. He has saved us more points than he has cost us on his recent run. Can’t expect any more. It’s really not. He’s been bollocks. He’s about league two standard and needs fucking off sharpish.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 30, 2023 14:05:08 GMT
He saved us a goal yesterday with that shot from range he tipped onto the bar. I think a lot of keepers get nowhere near that as it screams in the top corner. Agreed with everyone we need better but credit where its due that is a top class save. He's done far better than I expected and deserves credit. Of course certain ones will nit pick, the same individuals who blamed defenders when a keeper they liked conceded a soft goal it has to be said
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 14:06:05 GMT
He saved us a goal yesterday with that shot from range he tipped onto the bar. I think a lot of keepers get nowhere near that as it screams in the top corner. Agreed with everyone we need better but credit where its due that is a top class save. He's done far better than I expected and deserves credit. Of course certain ones will nit pick, the same individuals who blamed defenders when a keeper they liked conceded a soft goal it has to be said Nit pick? He’s handed 3 goals on a plate to teams 🤣
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Post by nonameface on Dec 30, 2023 14:08:31 GMT
Based purely on what I've seen from Travers and Bonham this season my preference would be to keep Bonham as number one. Bold statement I know but, since Bonham has been with us he's improved loads and is probably an average to top half championship keeper now, his shot stopping by PSxG difference puts him joint 5th.
Michael Cooper is best at collecting crosses in the league, (just ahead of begovic), and is 11th best for shot stopping. So perhaps the new goalkeeping coach will get more out of Bonham or suggest Cooper as an alternative.
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 30, 2023 14:11:46 GMT
He’s been much better than I feared he would be. He’s pulled off some fabulous saves and also made a few errors. We need a new keeper, but Bonham has proved himself a worthy deputy.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 30, 2023 14:15:47 GMT
We’ve conceded at least one or two from parries of his but my memory for which games they were is hopeless. He did it a couple of times last night although I haven’t seen them back The Brum goal was a perfect example. Course. Immediately forgot that cos it was such a good win but you don’t have to look very far
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 30, 2023 14:48:15 GMT
Based purely on what I've seen from Travers and Bonham this season my preference would be to keep Bonham as number one. Bold statement I know but, since Bonham has been with us he's improved loads and is probably an average to top half championship keeper now, his shot stopping by PSxG difference puts him joint 5th. Michael Cooper is best at collecting crosses in the league, (just ahead of begovic), and is 11th best for shot stopping. So perhaps the new goalkeeping coach will get more out of Bonham or suggest Cooper as an alternative. Isn’t Cooper long term injured?
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Post by yellowsnowman on Dec 30, 2023 15:37:34 GMT
Hes been alot better of late, think hes improving which is nice to see. The save onto the bar was top draw. Keep it up Jack.
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Post by lordb on Dec 30, 2023 15:49:24 GMT
It is bang on average for a back up keeper in this division. Exactly what Bonham is - a Championship number 2 on a sensible wage. He has saved us more points than he has cost us on his recent run. Can’t expect any more. It’s really not. He’s been bollocks. He’s about league two standard and needs fucking off sharpish. Pretty much most Championship back up keepers are league two standard
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 30, 2023 17:14:41 GMT
Since Gould came in he’s visibly improved as a keeper and he has pulled off some great saves
That said, I still don’t want him as our no1
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 30, 2023 18:08:07 GMT
He's done far better than I expected and deserves credit. Of course certain ones will nit pick, the same individuals who blamed defenders when a keeper they liked conceded a soft goal it has to be said Nit pick? He’s handed 3 goals on a plate to teams 🤣 Seriously do u have anything else to say other than repeat he conceded 3 goals blah blah blah. Ur like a stuck record continually repeating yourself and stopping actual conversations happening on threads. Try and post something new to a conversation or otherwise butt out. I'm tired of your repetition. Did u not notice the save he made last night? Or go against ur agenda of he conceded 3 goals blah blah boring blah
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Post by nonameface on Dec 30, 2023 18:44:04 GMT
Based purely on what I've seen from Travers and Bonham this season my preference would be to keep Bonham as number one. Bold statement I know but, since Bonham has been with us he's improved loads and is probably an average to top half championship keeper now, his shot stopping by PSxG difference puts him joint 5th. Michael Cooper is best at collecting crosses in the league, (just ahead of begovic), and is 11th best for shot stopping. So perhaps the new goalkeeping coach will get more out of Bonham or suggest Cooper as an alternative. Isn’t Cooper long term injured? Yeah, hadn't see that. Another ligament injury, although apparently not one requiring surgery.
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 30, 2023 18:45:51 GMT
Isn’t Cooper long term injured? Yeah, hadn't see that. Another ligament injury, although apparently not one requiring surgery. I really wouldn’t be against that guy at Rotherham is it? Always has a blinder against us. (If we can’t get Travers that is). Totally up for a Jared Eastern European wildcard too.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 18:51:25 GMT
Nit pick? He’s handed 3 goals on a plate to teams 🤣 Seriously do u have anything else to say other than repeat he conceded 3 goals blah blah blah. Ur like a stuck record continually repeating yourself and stopping actual conversations happening on threads. Try and post something new to a conversation or otherwise butt out. I'm tired of your repetition. Did u not notice the save he made last night? Or go against ur agenda of he conceded 3 goals blah blah boring blah He’s a league two standard goalie and we need better. Agenda my arse. I can’t believe anyone that wants us to do well is defending him.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 30, 2023 18:57:58 GMT
Seriously do u have anything else to say other than repeat he conceded 3 goals blah blah blah. Ur like a stuck record continually repeating yourself and stopping actual conversations happening on threads. Try and post something new to a conversation or otherwise butt out. I'm tired of your repetition. Did u not notice the save he made last night? Or go against ur agenda of he conceded 3 goals blah blah boring blah He’s a league two standard goalie and we need better. Agenda my arse. I can’t believe anyone that wants us to do well is defending him. League 2 standard despite playing the vast majority of his career in divisions above league 2 in teams that have not been threatened by relegation 😂. You don’t half enjoy a bit of hyperbole.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 19:05:41 GMT
He’s a league two standard goalie and we need better. Agenda my arse. I can’t believe anyone that wants us to do well is defending him. League 2 standard despite playing the vast majority of his career in divisions above league 2 in teams that have not been threatened by relegation 😂. You don’t half enjoy a bit of hyperbole. He’s played in League One and then played very badly in the Championship. He’s dogshit
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 30, 2023 19:08:23 GMT
League 2 standard despite playing the vast majority of his career in divisions above league 2 in teams that have not been threatened by relegation 😂. You don’t half enjoy a bit of hyperbole. He’s played in League One and then played very badly in the Championship. He’s dogshit Both of which are above league 2 😂 Congratulations for repeating what I’ve said.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 19:13:19 GMT
He’s played in League One and then played very badly in the Championship. He’s dogshit Both of which are above league 2 😂 Congratulations for repeating what I’ve said. Playing badly in this league doesn’t mean he’s this standard does it? And Gillingham fans weren’t arsed about him either….
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 30, 2023 19:17:12 GMT
Both of which are above league 2 😂 Congratulations for repeating what I’ve said. Playing badly in this league doesn’t mean he’s this standard does it? And Gillingham fans weren’t arsed about him either…. How many Gillingham fans do you speak to on a regular basis? They get an average of about 6,000 a game. Manage to get a good consensus have you? He’s played about average in this league, as one would expect. His stats are probably about average as well. All goalkeepers have mistakes in them, just look at the second Norwich goal against Ipswich: weak as piss and straight at him. Bonham has come in, done okay and carried on. It was piss poor recruitment that has him playing so much. He should be a bench warmer who plays 3-4x a year, if the other guy has a cold. That doesn’t make him league 2 standard. If he left, he’d probably go back to being first choice for a midtable side in league one, or a bench warmer for another team in the Champ.
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Post by malisastokie on Dec 30, 2023 19:26:43 GMT
He is a great shot stopper.
To progress we need a better number one who commands his area. He cost a point v Swansea and saved us a point v Millwall.
So overall he has been ok
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Post by nonameface on Dec 30, 2023 19:34:14 GMT
Yeah, hadn't see that. Another ligament injury, although apparently not one requiring surgery. I really wouldn’t be against that guy at Rotherham is it? Always has a blinder against us. (If we can’t get Travers that is). Totally up for a Jared Eastern European wildcard too. Yeah, I think Johansson will be sold in the summer. This summer he'd probably have been most fans realistic first choice, but, this season there's been next to no difference between the two. Shot stopping PSxG difference, stopping crosses Bonham 5th, 13th Johannsson 13th, 6th Over to Jared!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 30, 2023 19:52:15 GMT
Seriously do u have anything else to say other than repeat he conceded 3 goals blah blah blah. Ur like a stuck record continually repeating yourself and stopping actual conversations happening on threads. Try and post something new to a conversation or otherwise butt out. I'm tired of your repetition. Did u not notice the save he made last night? Or go against ur agenda of he conceded 3 goals blah blah boring blah He’s a league two standard goalie and we need better. Agenda my arse. I can’t believe anyone that wants us to do well is defending him. Oh sorry forgot you found one more thing to repeat about him ad nauseum he's league 2 standard. Repeat and repeat ad infinitum. I generally go on a thread and add my opinion and discuss responses. All you do is repeat yourself. I dont care about ur opinion to Bonham because I generally agree we should look for better. Its just ur goddamm boring repetition of the same sentences I take issue with. If you only want to repeat yourself then just save ur breath and save me the time of reading the same comments over and over again. It's beyond boring at this point bayern
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 30, 2023 20:05:23 GMT
He’s done better than I expected and I am happy for him to be a deputy.
He is league one standard. We need better if we want to push on for the top half and playoffs.
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 31, 2023 4:37:41 GMT
He saved us a goal yesterday with that shot from range he tipped onto the bar. I think a lot of keepers get nowhere near that as it screams in the top corner. Agreed with everyone we need better but credit where its due that is a top class save. He's done far better than I expected and deserves credit. Of course certain ones will nit pick, the same individuals who blamed defenders when a keeper they liked conceded a soft goal it has to be said The same ones who told us Josef was the second coming of Christ and need not worry are now nagging on in here. They need a new Target. Bonham has proved em' wrong and won out and is all we've got from poor loan management. He is the least of our worries until next summer. The center backs in front of the lad are pub league quality, that's the main issue at Stoke.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 31, 2023 5:02:01 GMT
He's done far better than I expected and deserves credit. Of course certain ones will nit pick, the same individuals who blamed defenders when a keeper they liked conceded a soft goal it has to be said The same ones who told us Josef was the second coming of Christ and need not worry are now nagging on in here. They need a new Target. Bonham has proved em' wrong and won out and is all we've got from poor loan management. He is the least of our worries until next summer. The center backs in front of the lad are pub league quality, that's the main issue at Stoke. Another shot was easily beat Bursik and The defence etc etc , yep you're right 👍
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Post by ceejays on Dec 31, 2023 7:05:38 GMT
Bonham is an excellent keeper for this sub standard division . Unless you’d prefer Bursik or Butland ( post injury. ) or Travers ( over rated ) or Sarkic ( injury prone ) or Gunn . Saved us countless times . Even Banks made mistakes and he’s better than Marshall Southall Leslie and countless others I can’t be bothered to name
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Post by headsgoup on Jan 1, 2024 11:44:55 GMT
With our new management, I think everyone deserves a fair crack of the whip until the end of the season (apart from Stevens, who with all due respect was a dud signing).
I'm not sure a new keeper would transform the side anymore - and it certainly looked that way for a while.
Now we're playing on the front foot more, the goalie is less likely to be at fault when we concede.
We'll be caught on the break more often than not now, which is quite different from the 30% possession we had under Neil, conceding corner after corner, which is basically Bonham's Kryptonite.
I think there's some value in just fixing the really obvious problem - LB - and returning for more serious surgery in the summer, when we have more room to invest.
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Post by lordb on Jan 1, 2024 11:50:00 GMT
Bonham is an excellent keeper for this sub standard division . Unless you’d prefer Bursik or Butland ( post injury. ) or Travers ( over rated ) or Sarkic ( injury prone ) or Gunn . Saved us countless times . Even Banks made mistakes and he’s better than Marshall Southall Leslie and countless others I can’t be bothered to name Gunn has blossomed at Norwich Travers is better than Bonham who is an OK, and cheap, number two I agree we have had loads worse
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