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Post by wakeypotter on Dec 30, 2023 9:48:47 GMT
Playing well at the minute Which is good to see
Another good solid game yesterday and he is looking confident also.
Unfortunately for his previous mistakes I still arnt 100% confident in him but well done jack keep it up
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 30, 2023 10:34:00 GMT
Swansea aside, has he actually cost us any points?
After all the initial over reaction hes done ok Id say
Hopefully we’ll have a new first choice (Travers?) to come in over the next week or so
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Post by wakeypotter on Dec 30, 2023 10:42:12 GMT
Swansea aside, has he actually cost us any points? After all the initial over reaction hes done ok Id say Hopefully we’ll have a new first choice (Travers?) to come in over the next week or so Can’t think of any apart from Swansea but maybe he’s earned us a few points. I did like travers so yeh let’s see if he comes back but Schumacher seems the type of guy not to just drop bonham
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Post by baconburger on Dec 30, 2023 10:48:49 GMT
Swansea aside, has he actually cost us any points? After all the initial over reaction hes done ok Id say Hopefully we’ll have a new first choice (Travers?) to come in over the next week or so Can’t think of any apart from Swansea but maybe he’s earned us a few points. I did like travers so yeh let’s see if he comes back but Schumacher seems the type of guy not to just drop bonham He’s like the complete opposite of Travers really I feel. Travers is calmer less spectacular, slower to distribute yet does the stuff you expect him to very unfussily. I’d prefer Travers but yes he could do with speeding up his distribution and command his area better. Makes far less howlers.
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 30, 2023 10:54:29 GMT
Maybe Shoey has got a few players in his thoughts that haven't been on our radar up to now? Who knows if we will even go back all-in for Travers in January? It will be interesting to see what transpires.
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 30, 2023 10:55:50 GMT
Bonham’s done fine. We obviously need more cover but he's not one of the major concerns right now.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 30, 2023 10:57:56 GMT
Hasn't done too badly over all, but if we could get Travers back for the rest of the season I wouldn't hesitate to put Jack back on the subs bench!
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Post by wakeypotter on Dec 30, 2023 10:59:32 GMT
Can’t think of any apart from Swansea but maybe he’s earned us a few points. I did like travers so yeh let’s see if he comes back but Schumacher seems the type of guy not to just drop bonham He’s like the complete opposite of Travers really I feel. Travers is calmer less spectacular, slower to distribute yet does the stuff you expect him to very unfussily. I’d prefer Travers but yes he could do with speeding up his distribution and command his area better. Makes far less howlers. Travers makes things look simple I thought Jack has made some top saves in recent matches and is definitely improving You just feel safer with someone like travers but like someone has said we may go for someone else. Will be interesting
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Post by pavel on Dec 30, 2023 11:00:36 GMT
We need better but Bonham has been decent lately.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 30, 2023 11:05:17 GMT
Bonham has done exactly what his role in the squad should be, done a job when called upon.
Needs to be the first player replaced in January.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 30, 2023 12:27:02 GMT
Bonham is a very decent shot stopper. He flounders at crosses. I’d rather see someone in who is a little less good at shot stopping but far better at handling crosses. We are very weak at defensive set pieces, particularly corners.
He’s shown over this extended run that he’s about average for this league. Regardless, it would be suicidal to go into the next half of the season with only one viable goalkeeper.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 30, 2023 12:32:38 GMT
Bonham is a very decent shot stopper. He flounders at crosses. I’d rather see someone in who is a little less good at shot stopping but far better at handling crosses. We are very weak at defensive set pieces, particularly corners. He’s shown over this extended run that he’s about average for this league. Regardless, it would be suicidal to go into the next half of the season with only one viable goalkeeper. I don’t think he’s a good shot stopper tbh. He can pull out the odd wonder save but the way he handles shots that are close to him leaves a lot to be desired, the ball almost always bounces off him right back into the danger area
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 30, 2023 12:38:04 GMT
Bonham's now played as many league games for us as Bursik, making him our most regular goalkeeper since Butland left.
We could do with some consistency there, and I hope we sign a very good permanent goalkeeper next month or if not, in the summer. I think Bonham is decent backup, but one of our strengths however good or bad we've done in the last 20 years or so is we've generally had two strong goalkeepers to call on.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 30, 2023 12:43:32 GMT
Bonham is a very decent shot stopper. He flounders at crosses. I’d rather see someone in who is a little less good at shot stopping but far better at handling crosses. We are very weak at defensive set pieces, particularly corners. He’s shown over this extended run that he’s about average for this league. Regardless, it would be suicidal to go into the next half of the season with only one viable goalkeeper. I don’t think he’s a good shot stopper tbh. He can pull out the odd wonder save but the way he handles shots that are close to him leaves a lot to be desired, the ball almost always bounces off him right back into the danger area I haven’t seen that but if it’s almost always happening, why aren’t we conceding more goals from goalmouth scrambles? We don’t exactly have defenders who could be described as alert.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 30, 2023 13:04:42 GMT
I don’t think he’s a good shot stopper tbh. He can pull out the odd wonder save but the way he handles shots that are close to him leaves a lot to be desired, the ball almost always bounces off him right back into the danger area I haven’t seen that but if it’s almost always happening, why aren’t we conceding more goals from goalmouth scrambles? We don’t exactly have defenders who could be described as alert. We’ve conceded at least one or two from parries of his but my memory for which games they were is hopeless. He did it a couple of times last night although I haven’t seen them back
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 30, 2023 13:09:58 GMT
I don't think the way he is playing, that GK is a priority in January, I certainly think more athleticism is to play the way SS wants us too. Especially in midfield and left back.
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Post by trotter1980 on Dec 30, 2023 13:24:37 GMT
I don't think the way he is playing, that GK is a priority in January, I certainly think more athleticism is to play the way SS wants us too. Especially in midfield and left back. We defo need a new Cm Pearson too slow Johnson doesn't really do anything, Burger, Junho are class actually like Thompson in Cdm but if he plays there we need a left back
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 13:31:00 GMT
The Birmingham goal was partly his fault.
He’s atrocious.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 30, 2023 13:32:05 GMT
I haven’t seen that but if it’s almost always happening, why aren’t we conceding more goals from goalmouth scrambles? We don’t exactly have defenders who could be described as alert. We’ve conceded at least one or two from parries of his but my memory for which games they were is hopeless. He did it a couple of times last night although I haven’t seen them back The Brum goal was a perfect example.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 30, 2023 13:34:07 GMT
The Birmingham goal was partly his fault. He’s atrocious. Agree about the Birmingham goal. Although I wouldn't say he is atrocious. Just bang average. Which is fine for a back up but not a number one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 13:37:35 GMT
The Birmingham goal was partly his fault. He’s atrocious. Agree about the Birmingham goal. Although I wouldn't say he is atrocious. Just bang average. Which is fine for a back up but not a number one. Average goalies aren’t at fault for goals in 3 of the last 9 games (Blackburn, Swansea and Brum).
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 30, 2023 13:38:52 GMT
Hasn't done too badly over all, but if we could get Travers back for the rest of the season I wouldn't hesitate to put Jack back on the subs bench! The only way I would have Travers back is on a permanent. Bonham hasn't done badly and maybe the new gk coach and the new style of play will help him. Getting Travers back or any other goal keeper on loan just risks the chance of being left in our current position come March when his club recall him again. I would be expecting a permanent gk this January.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 30, 2023 13:39:53 GMT
We’ve conceded at least one or two from parries of his but my memory for which games they were is hopeless. He did it a couple of times last night although I haven’t seen them back The Brum goal was a perfect example. Pickford used to do it all the time.
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Post by stokesupporter on Dec 30, 2023 13:41:28 GMT
There are no such a keeper who hasn't got an occasional mistake in him. Since becoming the no 1 keeper Bonham has done couple of mistakes which is not much at all and considering his game savers I'd say he's done very well indeed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 13:46:02 GMT
There are no such a keeper who hasn't got an occasional mistake in him. Since becoming the no 1 keeper Bonham has done couple of mistakes which is not much at all and considering his game savers I'd say he's done very well indeed. A couple? He’s made 3 in the last 9 games alone. That’s not normal or acceptable.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 30, 2023 13:46:39 GMT
The Brum goal was a perfect example. Pickford used to do it all the time. Still does.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 30, 2023 13:48:05 GMT
Agree about the Birmingham goal. Although I wouldn't say he is atrocious. Just bang average. Which is fine for a back up but not a number one. Average goalies aren’t at fault for goals in 3 of the last 9 games (Blackburn, Swansea and Brum). Yeah, they probably are. That's why we want better than average.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 30, 2023 13:49:37 GMT
If people thought Bonham was bad on crosses, did they not watch Travers?. Good shop stopper, but not at commanding his box so much?.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 13:55:04 GMT
Average goalies aren’t at fault for goals in 3 of the last 9 games (Blackburn, Swansea and Brum). Yeah, they probably are. That's why we want better than average. Its a rate for a shit goalie
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2023 13:55:40 GMT
If people thought Bonham was bad on crosses, did they not watch Travers?. Good shop stopper, but not at commanding his box so much?. Travers is wildly overrated but still 100 times better than Bonham.
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