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Post by chad on Jan 12, 2024 15:52:15 GMT
Scored for the u21s today. Can see him getting some game time from the bench in the next few months. 🤞
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Post by jokker on Jan 12, 2024 16:12:10 GMT
Scored for the u21s today. Can see him getting some game time from the bench in the next few months. 🤞 He's been doing "some minutes from the bench" for a couple of years now (when fit). It has to end. He should be playing in the team for 90 mins or thereabouts (once fit) and scoring goals, not just sampling the atmosphere. We're obviously not clear of relegation danger, but we're not in any immediate trouble now. There's probably no better time to build our attack around him. Which means: hopefully SS won't be making a marquee striker signing, which would put Tezgel even further away from the role he should be playing from now on. Because if SS signs a (relatuvely) expensive striker, it then goes without saying that said signing would be playing non stop. If that happens, Tezgel might just ask for a transfer, in which case he would join the club of Stoke talents who never became Stoke fixtures in the team.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 12, 2024 16:24:44 GMT
Scored for the u21s today. Can see him getting some game time from the bench in the next few months. 🤞 He's been doing "some minutes from the bench" for a couple of years now (when fit). It has to end. He should be playing in the team for 90 mins or thereabouts (once fit) and scoring goals, not just sampling the atmosphere. We're obviously not clear of relegation danger, but we're not in any immediate trouble now. There's probably no better time to build our attack around him. Which means: hopefully SS won't be making a marquee striker signing, which would put Tezgel even further away from the role he should be playing from now on. Because if SS signs a (relatuvely) expensive striker, it then goes without saying that said signing would be playing non stop. If that happens, Tezgel might just ask for a transfer, in which case he would join the club of Stoke talents who never became Stoke fixtures in the team. He has to earn his place and rarely being fit doesn't help. He's never scored at this level so let's not get carried away but he obviously is a talent but how many of these youngsters have we heard the same about...get them in the first team etc and they've drifted down the leagues as not good enough? So far he can't justify starting but hopefully soon he can stay fit and get games
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Post by Caddick988 on Jan 12, 2024 16:49:56 GMT
Scored for the u21s today. Can see him getting some game time from the bench in the next few months. 🤞 Who are the u21s playing? Didn't realise they had a game today.
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Post by chad on Jan 12, 2024 17:20:52 GMT
Scored for the u21s today. Can see him getting some game time from the bench in the next few months. 🤞 Who are the u21s playing? Didn't realise they had a game today. Norwich. Saw it on Facebook but it’s not on Stoke site so maybe it was an old post. Apologies if it was
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Post by timbo1988 on Jan 12, 2024 17:38:14 GMT
Who are the u21s playing? Didn't realise they had a game today. Norwich. Saw it on Facebook but it’s not on Stoke site so maybe it was an old post. Apologies if it was The match was last Monday! More of a concern is that Schumacher said he was fit last week but we only named 8 subs when we had 9 spots available. Why not put Tezgal on the bench if he was close to first team action?
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Post by jokker on Jan 12, 2024 17:48:06 GMT
He's been doing "some minutes from the bench" for a couple of years now (when fit). It has to end. He should be playing in the team for 90 mins or thereabouts (once fit) and scoring goals, not just sampling the atmosphere. We're obviously not clear of relegation danger, but we're not in any immediate trouble now. There's probably no better time to build our attack around him. Which means: hopefully SS won't be making a marquee striker signing, which would put Tezgel even further away from the role he should be playing from now on. Because if SS signs a (relatuvely) expensive striker, it then goes without saying that said signing would be playing non stop. If that happens, Tezgel might just ask for a transfer, in which case he would join the club of Stoke talents who never became Stoke fixtures in the team. He has to earn his place and rarely being fit doesn't help. He's never scored at this level so let's not get carried away but he obviously is a talent but how many of these youngsters have we heard the same about...get them in the first team etc and they've drifted down the leagues as not good enough? So far he can't justify starting but hopefully soon he can stay fit and get games Have you even wondered why he has never scored for Stoke? The very simple answer is that 2 years on from his debut he still hasn't made anything other than cameo appearences in the league. The even more simple answer is that in order to score goals you must play... Have you considered that? No I thought not. Never waste an opportunity to put down a talented lad; jesus, mcmuffin...
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2024 17:51:44 GMT
He has to earn his place and rarely being fit doesn't help. He's never scored at this level so let's not get carried away but he obviously is a talent but how many of these youngsters have we heard the same about...get them in the first team etc and they've drifted down the leagues as not good enough? So far he can't justify starting but hopefully soon he can stay fit and get games Have you even wondered why he has never scored for Stoke? The very simple answer is that 2 years on from his debut he still hasn't made anything other than cameo appearences in the league. The even more simple answer is that in order to score goals you must play... Have you considered that? No I thought not. Never waste an opportunity to put down a talented lad; jesus, mcmuffin... How can you play a player who’s constantly injured? He’s not scored because he’s not been fit enough, it’s as simple as that.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 12, 2024 18:17:16 GMT
He has to earn his place and rarely being fit doesn't help. He's never scored at this level so let's not get carried away but he obviously is a talent but how many of these youngsters have we heard the same about...get them in the first team etc and they've drifted down the leagues as not good enough? So far he can't justify starting but hopefully soon he can stay fit and get games Have you even wondered why he has never scored for Stoke? The very simple answer is that 2 years on from his debut he still hasn't made anything other than cameo appearences in the league. The even more simple answer is that in order to score goals you must play... Have you considered that? No I thought not. Never waste an opportunity to put down a talented lad; jesus, mcmuffin... And in order to play you have to be available and earn your place Nowhere have I put him down if you read what I actually wrote
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Post by walrus on Jan 12, 2024 18:57:07 GMT
He has to earn his place and rarely being fit doesn't help. He's never scored at this level so let's not get carried away but he obviously is a talent but how many of these youngsters have we heard the same about...get them in the first team etc and they've drifted down the leagues as not good enough? So far he can't justify starting but hopefully soon he can stay fit and get games Have you even wondered why he has never scored for Stoke? The very simple answer is that 2 years on from his debut he still hasn't made anything other than cameo appearences in the league. The even more simple answer is that in order to score goals you must play... Have you considered that? No I thought not. Never waste an opportunity to put down a talented lad; jesus, mcmuffin... There’s clearly a middle ground though isn’t there. He’s been getting a few minutes here and there but you’re advocating playing him for full matches. He’s still unproven and still very young, not to mention returning from a series of nasty injuries. The sensible next step would be bringing him on from the bench for 20-30 minutes in a few matches and seeing how he does rather than throwing him in from the start.
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Post by jokker on Jan 12, 2024 19:04:02 GMT
Have you even wondered why he has never scored for Stoke? The very simple answer is that 2 years on from his debut he still hasn't made anything other than cameo appearences in the league. The even more simple answer is that in order to score goals you must play... Have you considered that? No I thought not. Never waste an opportunity to put down a talented lad; jesus, mcmuffin... And in order to play you have to be available and earn your place Nowhere have I put him down if you read what I actually wrote I did say "once fit"... Whereas you likened him to "get them in the first team etc and they've drifted down the leagues as not good enough"- Saying "Not good enough" is "putting them down" !
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Post by jokker on Jan 12, 2024 19:08:07 GMT
Have you even wondered why he has never scored for Stoke? The very simple answer is that 2 years on from his debut he still hasn't made anything other than cameo appearences in the league. The even more simple answer is that in order to score goals you must play... Have you considered that? No I thought not. Never waste an opportunity to put down a talented lad; jesus, mcmuffin... There’s clearly a middle ground though isn’t there. He’s been getting a few minutes here and there but you’re advocating playing him for full matches. He’s still unproven and still very young, not to mention returning from a series of nasty injuries. The sensible next step would be bringing him on from the bench for 20-30 minutes in a few matches and seeing how he does rather than throwing him in from the start. I did say "once fit", but he has to have more than a few minutes in games that are petering out. 30 minutes would be a minor improvement in that process. 45 minutes next would be like saying, "we trust you". And then...full speed ahead !
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 12, 2024 19:11:17 GMT
And in order to play you have to be available and earn your place Nowhere have I put him down if you read what I actually wrote I did say "once fit"... Whereas you likened him to "get them in the first team etc and they've drifted down the leagues as not good enough"- Saying "Not good enough" is "putting them down" ! Which is based on what has happened more than once with other players that some have insisted go straight into the first team I never said anywhere that Tezgel isn't good enough .. again if you read what I actually said.
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Post by i1da on Jan 12, 2024 19:12:50 GMT
There’s clearly a middle ground though isn’t there. He’s been getting a few minutes here and there but you’re advocating playing him for full matches. He’s still unproven and still very young, not to mention returning from a series of nasty injuries. The sensible next step would be bringing him on from the bench for 20-30 minutes in a few matches and seeing how he does rather than throwing him in from the start. I did say "once fit", but he has to have more than a few minutes in games that are petering out. 30 minutes would be a minor improvement in that process. 45 minutes next would be like saying, "we trust you". And then...full speed ahead ! Is trust given, or is trust earned?
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Post by shelleys92 on Jan 12, 2024 22:06:07 GMT
Emre will be huge for this club in the coming years. If anyone watched the u21’s game vs Norwich, he was by far the stand out for either team. Definite starter next season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2024 22:08:43 GMT
He’s 18, coming back from a longish injury on the back of a few others and I think it’s pretty clear the club are being careful with him.
The lad is one of the best English players for his age when fit so we have to try and make sure that carries on. Keeping him fit is the first step.
Hopefully he can stay fit and get some chances in the first team this season.
Patience about everything around him though is needed.
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Post by fca47 on Jan 12, 2024 22:10:25 GMT
He played in the Burton pre-season game, and looked very good.
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Post by shelleys92 on Jan 12, 2024 22:33:04 GMT
He’s 18, coming back from a longish injury on the back of a few others and I think it’s pretty clear the club are being careful with him. The lad is one of the best English players for his age when fit so we have to try and make sure that carries on. Keeping him fit is the step. Hopefully he can stay fit and get some chances in the first team this season. Patience about everything around him though is needed. The key word is patience. Get some first team minutes this season, a good pre season, injury free then I think it’s only a matter of time before we see him at his best and at his best the club will see a homegrown talent like they’ve never seen before. Lowe is an exceptional talent but Emre is a different level.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 12, 2024 22:34:08 GMT
He’s 18, coming back from a longish injury on the back of a few others and I think it’s pretty clear the club are being careful with him. The lad is one of the best English players for his age when fit so we have to try and make sure that carries on. Keeping him fit is the step. Hopefully he can stay fit and get some chances in the first team this season. Patience about everything around him though is needed. The key word is patience. Get some first team minutes this season, a good pre season, injury free then I think it’s only a matter of time before we see him at his best and at his best the club will see a homegrown talent like they’ve never seen before. Lowe is an exceptional talent but Emre is a different level. Yep, he'll get game time when the time is tight
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2024 22:35:01 GMT
He’s 18, coming back from a longish injury on the back of a few others and I think it’s pretty clear the club are being careful with him. The lad is one of the best English players for his age when fit so we have to try and make sure that carries on. Keeping him fit is the step. Hopefully he can stay fit and get some chances in the first team this season. Patience about everything around him though is needed. The key word is patience. Get some first team minutes this season, a good pre season, injury free then I think it’s only a matter of time before we see him at his best and at his best the club will see a homegrown talent like they’ve never seen before. Lowe is an exceptional talent but Emre is a different level. I’d like to see Lowe go out on loan tbh. I think it’s what he needs especially if Tezgel can stay fit and we don’t get rid of a striker. Playing regularly in League Two even as an 18 year old is very achievable for him now.
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Post by a on Jan 12, 2024 22:37:21 GMT
Scored for the u21s today. Can see him getting some game time from the bench in the next few months. 🤞 Huge gulf tho, remember that vale game?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2024 22:41:17 GMT
Scored for the u21s today. Can see him getting some game time from the bench in the next few months. 🤞 Huge gulf tho, remember that vale game? And two of the centre halves that played that night have netted this club the best part of 30 million quid.
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Post by shelleys92 on Jan 12, 2024 22:43:16 GMT
The key word is patience. Get some first team minutes this season, a good pre season, injury free then I think it’s only a matter of time before we see him at his best and at his best the club will see a homegrown talent like they’ve never seen before. Lowe is an exceptional talent but Emre is a different level. I’d like to see Lowe go out on loan tbh. I think it’s what he needs especially if Tezgel can stay fit and we don’t get rid of a striker. Playing regularly in League Two even as an 18 year old is very achievable for him now. Seems a very logical progression for Lowe. Likewise for a couple more of the younger lads.
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Post by a on Jan 12, 2024 22:44:51 GMT
Patience is mentioned yet he’s used in many arguments to drop players like Gayle.
There are contributors on here who are in need of a reality check
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2024 22:46:24 GMT
Patience is mentioned yet he’s used in many arguments to drop players like Gayle. There are contributors on here who are in need of a reality check When fit he should be used over Gayle. I don’t get why anyone would want to see Gayle play given the chance to get him not involved? We miss nothing by playing Tezgel or Lowe over him. The patience aspect is getting him fit.
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Post by a on Jan 12, 2024 22:47:36 GMT
Huge gulf tho, remember that vale game? And two of the centre halves that played that night have netted this club the best part of 30 million quid. Collins and wara
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Post by a on Jan 12, 2024 22:48:59 GMT
Patience is mentioned yet he’s used in many arguments to drop players like Gayle. There are contributors on here who are in need of a reality check When fit he should be used over Gayle. I don’t get why anyone would want to see Gayle play given the chance to get him not involved? We miss nothing by playing Tezgel or Lowe over him. The patience aspect is getting him fit. Come back when he’s fit. Either player. Can’t wait to see it. But make sure you come back to me tho, do t want to miss it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2024 22:49:31 GMT
And two of the centre halves that played that night have netted this club the best part of 30 million quid. Collins and wara Thought Souttar played sorry. So about 15m then with the all add ons. Tymon and Campbell played as well I think? And Sorensen?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2024 22:50:32 GMT
When fit he should be used over Gayle. I don’t get why anyone would want to see Gayle play given the chance to get him not involved? We miss nothing by playing Tezgel or Lowe over him. The patience aspect is getting him fit. Come back when he’s fit. Either player. Can’t wait to see it. But make sure you come back to me tho, do t want to miss it. So you’d rather watch Gayle do nothing than give either one of our England youth international strikers a chance? Why?
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2024 22:51:07 GMT
Patience is mentioned yet he’s used in many arguments to drop players like Gayle. There are contributors on here who are in need of a reality check When fit he should be used over Gayle. I don’t get why anyone would want to see Gayle play given the chance to get him not involved? We miss nothing by playing Tezgel or Lowe over him. The patience aspect is getting him fit. We all want to see Tezgel do well, the issue we have is he only signed a three year contract so as things stand, he’s here for another 18 months. What happens then?
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