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Post by tuum on Dec 3, 2023 0:38:37 GMT
Don't give AN any money in Jan and tell him to use (develop) the young players. If he throws his toys out of the pram then get rid of him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 5, 2024 7:07:49 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/videos"A lot of people are wondering how Emre Tezgel's getting on?" "Yeah, he's fine, yeah. He's doing okay. He's obviously a young player of high potential who's done well. When he's trained with us, he's looked as though he can handle it and he's capable. He's a little bit away from the team at this moment - but hopefully he can keep playing and keep getting better and if we see something of him, then great" Doesn't sound like he's particularly close to getting any first-team minutes, even with the lack of forward players in the first-team group. I know Neil said we were building him up physically - but he has played for the age-group teams as far back as October. It's hard to know how noteworthy it even is that an 18 year-old isn't featuring, but he is/was the poster boy of the academy and the feeling was he was one we were right to be excited by and possibly on a different level of prospect to Lowe? His debut was 2 years ago and his contact announcement was probably our most high-profile ever for a teenager. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes. Whether this is all part of the big plan to take it very slowly with him, and everyone's on the same page, or whether he's looking a bit off the pace is hard to gauge.
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Post by theonlooker on Jan 5, 2024 7:59:17 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/videos"A lot of people are wondering how Emre Tezgel's getting on?" "Yeah, he's fine, yeah. He's doing okay. He's obviously a young player of high potential who's done well. When he's trained with us, he's looked as though he can handle it and he's capable. He's a little bit away from the team at this moment - but hopefully he can keep playing and keep getting better and if we see something of him, then great" Doesn't sound like he's particularly close to getting any first-team minutes, even with the lack of forward players in the first-team group. I know Neil said we were building him up physically - but he has played for the age-group teams as far back as October. It's hard to know how noteworthy it even is that an 18 year-old isn't featuring, but he is/was the poster boy of the academy and the feeling was he was one we were right to be excited by and possibly on a different level of prospect to Lowe? His debut was 2 years ago and his contact announcement was probably our most high-profile ever for a teenager. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes. Whether this is all part of the big plan to take it very slowly with him, and everyone's on the same page, or whether he's looking a bit off the pace is hard to gauge. Interesting watch. Looks like he either isn't doing enough to impress or he isn't rated by the new managerial team.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 5, 2024 8:10:34 GMT
I wonder if his persistent injuries have held him back a bit?
Hopefully now he's over them and he can have a good run of staying fit, developing and eventually getting some game time.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 5, 2024 8:13:43 GMT
It sounded a very underwhelming update if I am honest, not sure what is actually going on with him to be honest, seems to have dropped off the radar completely since the summer
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Post by pmjh on Jan 5, 2024 8:21:08 GMT
He's a young lad who was lauded as the next big thing and then held back by injury. Hopefully it will just take time for him to return Physically and mentally to where he needs to be.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 5, 2024 8:40:40 GMT
He was definitely with the squad at Watford.
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Post by a on Jan 5, 2024 8:47:24 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/videos"A lot of people are wondering how Emre Tezgel's getting on?" "Yeah, he's fine, yeah. He's doing okay. He's obviously a young player of high potential who's done well. When he's trained with us, he's looked as though he can handle it and he's capable. He's a little bit away from the team at this moment - but hopefully he can keep playing and keep getting better and if we see something of him, then great" Doesn't sound like he's particularly close to getting any first-team minutes, even with the lack of forward players in the first-team group. I know Neil said we were building him up physically - but he has played for the age-group teams as far back as October. It's hard to know how noteworthy it even is that an 18 year-old isn't featuring, but he is/was the poster boy of the academy and the feeling was he was one we were right to be excited by and possibly on a different level of prospect to Lowe? His debut was 2 years ago and his contact announcement was probably our most high-profile ever for a teenager. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes. Whether this is all part of the big plan to take it very slowly with him, and everyone's on the same page, or whether he's looking a bit off the pace is hard to gauge. We’ve got Mmaee, Wesley and Gayle so hardly lacking options. Now in terms of quality that’s a different conversation 😂
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Post by bhp on Jan 5, 2024 8:51:55 GMT
He was definitely with the squad at Watford. When the camera panned to the bench he was there in the back corner
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 5, 2024 9:14:36 GMT
I wonder if his persistent injuries have held him back a bit? Hopefully now he's over them and he can have a good run of staying fit, developing and eventually getting some game time. He's had two quite bad injuries at an important point in his development - it could easily have knocked him back a season at least. He really needs time out of the limelight just to grow into his body and talk of him being the solution to our lack of goals this season look completely unrealistic to me.
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Post by baconburger on Jan 5, 2024 9:21:17 GMT
I wonder if his persistent injuries have held him back a bit? Hopefully now he's over them and he can have a good run of staying fit, developing and eventually getting some game time. He's had two quite bad injuries at an important point in his development - it could easily have knocked him back a season at least. He really needs time out of the limelight just to grow into his body and talk of him being the solution to our lack of goals this season look completely unrealistic to me. Definitely not someone we should be hanging our hat on just yet. It would be nice to see him back in the senior squad at some point this season to evaluate whether he’s an option for a squad place next season or whether a loan will aid his development better.
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Post by apb1 on Jan 5, 2024 9:32:49 GMT
If he and Lowe alternate as the ninth substitute for the rest of the season, coming on when we have already secured the three points by say the 60th minute, and either of them ever actually come of the bench, I'd be happy
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Post by pavel on Jan 5, 2024 9:33:12 GMT
Football is littered with talented young players that fall by the wayside for various reasons, even those touted by the major sporting press. One of the reasons can be serious injury or a spate of injuries that delay progress at a crucial point of their careers and delay or more sadly stop any progression into top flight football. Let's hope that Tezgel is one of the former and his progression from talented prospect has just been delayed by his recent injuries and he once again progresses to realise his undoubted potential.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 5, 2024 10:10:09 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/videos"A lot of people are wondering how Emre Tezgel's getting on?" "Yeah, he's fine, yeah. He's doing okay. He's obviously a young player of high potential who's done well. When he's trained with us, he's looked as though he can handle it and he's capable. He's a little bit away from the team at this moment - but hopefully he can keep playing and keep getting better and if we see something of him, then great" Doesn't sound like he's particularly close to getting any first-team minutes, even with the lack of forward players in the first-team group. I know Neil said we were building him up physically - but he has played for the age-group teams as far back as October. It's hard to know how noteworthy it even is that an 18 year-old isn't featuring, but he is/was the poster boy of the academy and the feeling was he was one we were right to be excited by and possibly on a different level of prospect to Lowe? His debut was 2 years ago and his contact announcement was probably our most high-profile ever for a teenager. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes. Whether this is all part of the big plan to take it very slowly with him, and everyone's on the same page, or whether he's looking a bit off the pace is hard to gauge. Is he the player who got injured in preseason due to the 'alleged' poor provisions and preparation? (A journalists comments, might have been Percy) Did he, rightfully, have his say about the faciliand got blackballed or just a longer recuperation than we thought?
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Post by apb1 on Jan 5, 2024 10:16:06 GMT
I think he declared himself ready to play when he wasn't, and then got injured again. Hence the cotton wool treatment since.
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Post by somersetpotter on Jan 5, 2024 10:27:07 GMT
Realistically him and Lowe need loans to League 1/2, get a real feel for the men’s game and some 10-20 goal seasons under their belts. If they can do that we’ll see them become first team players for Stoke
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 5, 2024 11:58:48 GMT
Realistically him and Lowe need loans to League 1/2, get a real feel for the men’s game and some 10-20 goal seasons under their belts. If they can do that we’ll see them become first team players for Stoke Not every player needs to go out on loan to the lower leagues. Tezgel didn’t look lost when he came in. Bringing him on instead of Gayle seems sensible. Lowe should go out on loan though, he needs minutes and there’s not space to provide them here if we are going to bring Tezgel through.
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Post by lordb on Jan 5, 2024 12:11:15 GMT
Realistically him and Lowe need loans to League 1/2, get a real feel for the men’s game and some 10-20 goal seasons under their belts. If they can do that we’ll see them become first team players for Stoke Not every player needs to go out on loan to the lower leagues. Tezgel didn’t look lost when he came in. Bringing him on instead of Gayle seems sensible. Lowe should go out on loan though, he needs minutes and there’s not space to provide them here if we are going to bring Tezgel through. use both of them don't use Wes or Gayle Mmaee, Campbell, Tez & Lowe till the summer big money freed up from Wes, Gayle & Campbell leaving at that time
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Post by clivey05 on Jan 5, 2024 18:44:46 GMT
The thing with Tezgal, is he has been injured so much for the last couple of seasons that he hasn’t really been able to develop. He needs a good year of being injury free and hopefully can really stake a claim in the first team over the next couple of seasons.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 5, 2024 19:11:00 GMT
Not every player needs to go out on loan to the lower leagues. Tezgel didn’t look lost when he came in. Bringing him on instead of Gayle seems sensible. Lowe should go out on loan though, he needs minutes and there’s not space to provide them here if we are going to bring Tezgel through. use both of them don't use Wes or Gayle Mmaee, Campbell, Tez & Lowe till the summer big money freed up from Wes, Gayle & Campbell leaving at that time We could but I don’t think that’s close to being likely to what will happen. Campbell will only (hopefully) play out wide. I’d like to think we’d alternate Mmaee with Tezgel (who seems fairly similar). I’d be shocked if we see Lowe picked often over Wesley, which means that he needs a loan. There’s no point having both of them on the bench. I’d hope that we can let one develop here and the other develop elsewhere.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 5, 2024 19:20:17 GMT
use both of them don't use Wes or Gayle Mmaee, Campbell, Tez & Lowe till the summer big money freed up from Wes, Gayle & Campbell leaving at that time We could but I don’t think that’s close to being likely to what will happen. Campbell will only (hopefully) play out wide. I’d like to think we’d alternate Mmaee with Tezgel (who seems fairly similar). I’d be shocked if we see Lowe picked often over Wesley, which means that he needs a loan. There’s no point having both of them on the bench. I’d hope that we can let one develop here and the other develop elsewhere. From the brief bits I've seen both are technically good enough to play at this level, they were also strong enough to hold off defenders. They just need to build upon their stamina to ensure they don't break down. Not sure games in League 1 would help. Probably better to get the odd set of minutes off the bench, get stronger through gym work and just getting more robust by being older.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 5, 2024 19:35:55 GMT
Just because he was looking like good potential before these injuries, doesn't mean he can just automatically take off from where he was.
We don't really know how these injuries have affected him at a critical point in his physical development.
Only the staff at the club will know that, and we will have to trust their judgement.
Fingers crossed.
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Post by RF10 on Jan 5, 2024 20:38:13 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/videos"A lot of people are wondering how Emre Tezgel's getting on?" "Yeah, he's fine, yeah. He's doing okay. He's obviously a young player of high potential who's done well. When he's trained with us, he's looked as though he can handle it and he's capable. He's a little bit away from the team at this moment - but hopefully he can keep playing and keep getting better and if we see something of him, then great" Doesn't sound like he's particularly close to getting any first-team minutes, even with the lack of forward players in the first-team group. I know Neil said we were building him up physically - but he has played for the age-group teams as far back as October. It's hard to know how noteworthy it even is that an 18 year-old isn't featuring, but he is/was the poster boy of the academy and the feeling was he was one we were right to be excited by and possibly on a different level of prospect to Lowe? His debut was 2 years ago and his contact announcement was probably our most high-profile ever for a teenager. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes. Whether this is all part of the big plan to take it very slowly with him, and everyone's on the same page, or whether he's looking a bit off the pace is hard to gauge. I'm really starting to feel the academy players won't get much of a look in.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 5, 2024 22:26:42 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/videos"A lot of people are wondering how Emre Tezgel's getting on?" "Yeah, he's fine, yeah. He's doing okay. He's obviously a young player of high potential who's done well. When he's trained with us, he's looked as though he can handle it and he's capable. He's a little bit away from the team at this moment - but hopefully he can keep playing and keep getting better and if we see something of him, then great" Doesn't sound like he's particularly close to getting any first-team minutes, even with the lack of forward players in the first-team group. I know Neil said we were building him up physically - but he has played for the age-group teams as far back as October. It's hard to know how noteworthy it even is that an 18 year-old isn't featuring, but he is/was the poster boy of the academy and the feeling was he was one we were right to be excited by and possibly on a different level of prospect to Lowe? His debut was 2 years ago and his contact announcement was probably our most high-profile ever for a teenager. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes. Whether this is all part of the big plan to take it very slowly with him, and everyone's on the same page, or whether he's looking a bit off the pace is hard to gauge. I'm really starting to feel the academy players won't get much of a look in. I'm pretty sure that whatever Shumacher thinks of Tezgel, he wants to play it down to relieve the pressure of expectation being put on this young lad's shoulders. Certainly I think the injury he sustained last summer was because of how close he felt he was getting to the first team. As I remember it he didn't tell them of a niggle he was feeling, played and subsequently got a serious injury. If there is no pressure on him then perhaps he won't feel the necessity to lie about his fitness. Hopefully he has learned that lesson but you can understand why he didn"t want to be injured just as he looked like he was about to break into the first team. I think the medical team and manager will be wrapping him in cotton wool for the rest of the season There are enough fans expecting him to be the Messiah without Shumacher announcing that he is in his plans for the rest of the season.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 5, 2024 22:59:32 GMT
I doubt we'll see anything of him until next season.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 6, 2024 2:19:52 GMT
Brand new manager expected to get our bullet-riddled ship turned around and away from the Somali Pirates. Doubt he's going to consider launching the "eaglets from the nest" until we're higher/safer in the table. He's got the whole pissing-match of sorting out the starting gaggle going on right now.
Think Hackett's right - may not see much of Imre until next year. Can see it being somewhat dependent upon our casualty counts during this Winter offensive.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 6, 2024 11:45:28 GMT
Not playing for the 18s today but I’m guessing he’ll be with the match day squad for Brighton and then play for the 21s on Monday.
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Post by RF10 on Jan 6, 2024 14:04:48 GMT
Not playing for the 18s today but I’m guessing he’ll be with the match day squad for Brighton and then play for the 21s on Monday. Nope...
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Post by Northy on Jan 6, 2024 14:34:17 GMT
Not playing for the 18s today but I’m guessing he’ll be with the match day squad for Brighton and then play for the 21s on Monday. Nope... Do the 3 dots indicate you know something different?
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Post by timbo1988 on Jan 6, 2024 14:46:36 GMT
Not on the bench today and we have only named 8 subs when 9 are allowed
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