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Post by nonameface on Apr 27, 2024 19:05:50 GMT
I don't think he'll be expecting to be featuring here next season. Their fans were even debating whether it was worth having him back on loan next season when I looked last week. The consensus was that it was, but they didn't think they had someone they'd be lucky to get. He's clearly a player with big potential - but, at 18, that's a long way normally off featuring in the Champo unless you're extra special and really physically developed. Quansah wasn't particularly well rated by Bristol Rovers fans, then he ends up playing consistently for Liverpool. Funny game based on opinions and having the right platform to play from.
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Post by smiler_andy on Apr 27, 2024 19:26:37 GMT
With 46 Championship games and having 9 places on the bench each week it would be a headache at the best of times trying to decide who should be in the squad. From what I gather SS and JW want a smaller squad so do we fill it with 4 or 5 academy players each week for the bench. Otherwise you bring in a lot of loan players.
Concerning Tezgel, Lowe, Sidibe etc I can understand sending some out on loan until January. See how it goes send a few more out on loan if need and recall others.
Never an easy decision to make unless you have all the information. As supporters we can only presume what should happen.
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 27, 2024 19:41:14 GMT
He’s not very realistic then. Don’t get me wrong, I like the lad and I want him to succeed but his injuries have set him back. Regular football in league 1 is acceptable development for him at this stage. He will get a move to a club with a better pathway so it’s entirely realistic. Here or abroad. Whatever club that is would not be Championship level. Tezgel has good potential, but he’s no teenage Michael Owen.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Apr 27, 2024 19:58:56 GMT
Good goal and assist today .Defo one for the future.
Let's hope to works out with us.🙏🙏
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 27, 2024 20:16:22 GMT
He needs to be realistic though. He’s a talented young player, but injuries have set his development back 12 months at least. A contract extension and a league 1 loan is fine for him. Realism is that he’ll more than likely leave if he’s sent on loan again. Why would he? The pathway for him is clear: at 19 a season in L2 on loan, at 20 a season (or half a season) in L1, at 21 he'll hopefully be in our matchday squad fighting for a place having toughened up and learnt his trade. That's if everything goes to plan, of course. Sign a contract here and agree to be loaned out, he'll be playing first team football at a suitable level for a year or two, as opposed to twiddling his thumbs on the bench or, more likely if he stays here, playing in the U21s. He's far more likely to want to leave if we keep him here and not loan him out as the reality is that he's not even good enough for our bench (yet).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 27, 2024 21:19:35 GMT
Realism is that he’ll more than likely leave if he’s sent on loan again. Why would he? The pathway for him is clear: at 19 a season in L2 on loan, at 20 a season (or half a season) in L1, at 21 he'll hopefully be in our matchday squad fighting for a place having toughened up and learnt his trade. That's if everything goes to plan, of course. Sign a contract here and agree to be loaned out, he'll be playing first team football at a suitable level for a year or two, as opposed to twiddling his thumbs on the bench or, more likely if he stays here, playing in the U21s. He's far more likely to want to leave if we keep him here and not loan him out as the reality is that he's not even good enough for our bench (yet). Because we’ve been slow. A much worse player was kept over him as well this season as we sent him out on loan and we’ve then used him too. That will sting a little. He will have the big clubs in Turkey after him. And probably half of the PL. We have to give him game time to stand out. Lowe on the other hand should be loaned out. And he’s more than good enough for a 9 man bench.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 27, 2024 21:23:59 GMT
Why would he? The pathway for him is clear: at 19 a season in L2 on loan, at 20 a season (or half a season) in L1, at 21 he'll hopefully be in our matchday squad fighting for a place having toughened up and learnt his trade. That's if everything goes to plan, of course. Sign a contract here and agree to be loaned out, he'll be playing first team football at a suitable level for a year or two, as opposed to twiddling his thumbs on the bench or, more likely if he stays here, playing in the U21s. He's far more likely to want to leave if we keep him here and not loan him out as the reality is that he's not even good enough for our bench (yet). Because we’ve been slow. A much worse player was kept over him as well this season as we sent him out on loan and we’ve then used him too. That will sting a little. He will have the big clubs in Turkey after him. And probably half of the PL. We have to give him game time to stand out. Lowe on the other hand should be loaned out. And he’s more than good enough for a 9 man bench. 😀 half the PL after a lad struggling to get games at MK Dons. Behave.
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Post by chad on Apr 27, 2024 21:26:39 GMT
Why would he? The pathway for him is clear: at 19 a season in L2 on loan, at 20 a season (or half a season) in L1, at 21 he'll hopefully be in our matchday squad fighting for a place having toughened up and learnt his trade. That's if everything goes to plan, of course. Sign a contract here and agree to be loaned out, he'll be playing first team football at a suitable level for a year or two, as opposed to twiddling his thumbs on the bench or, more likely if he stays here, playing in the U21s. He's far more likely to want to leave if we keep him here and not loan him out as the reality is that he's not even good enough for our bench (yet). Because we’ve been slow. A much worse player was kept over him as well this season as we sent him out on loan and we’ve then used him too. That will sting a little. He will have the big clubs in Turkey after him. And probably half of the PL. We have to give him game time to stand out. Lowe on the other hand should be loaned out. And he’s more than good enough for a 9 man bench. Half the Premier League will be after him ????? I suppose Real and Barca will be interested as well Come on he’s got potential but he’s not going to interest PL clubs anytime soon
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 27, 2024 21:35:27 GMT
Because we’ve been slow. A much worse player was kept over him as well this season as we sent him out on loan and we’ve then used him too. That will sting a little. He will have the big clubs in Turkey after him. And probably half of the PL. We have to give him game time to stand out. Lowe on the other hand should be loaned out. And he’s more than good enough for a 9 man bench. Half the Premier League will be after him ????? I suppose Real and Barca will be interested as well Come on he’s got potential but he’s not going to interest PL clubs anytime soon Of course he will. He’s a very highly rated England youth international. 🤣🤦♂️
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 27, 2024 21:38:56 GMT
Half the Premier League will be after him ????? I suppose Real and Barca will be interested as well Come on he’s got potential but he’s not going to interest PL clubs anytime soon Of course he will. He’s a very highly rated England youth international. 🤣🤦♂️ There’s a ginormous gulf between the premier league and children’s representative football. Stop being silly. He’s still a kid who needs to learn his trade.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 27, 2024 21:43:42 GMT
Of course he will. He’s a very highly rated England youth international. 🤣🤦♂️ There’s a ginormous gulf between the premier league and children’s representative football. Stop being silly. He’s still a kid who needs to learn his trade. And PL clubs would take that talent on to develop.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 27, 2024 21:45:31 GMT
There’s a ginormous gulf between the premier league and children’s representative football. Stop being silly. He’s still a kid who needs to learn his trade. And PL clubs would take that talent on to develop. Ok. Let’s bookmark the thread and see how things develop.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 27, 2024 21:46:49 GMT
And PL clubs would take that talent on to develop. Ok. Let’s bookmark the thread and see how things develop. You seem to think I’m saying he’d get into their sides. Which I’m not. But they’d take him on because of how good he is expected to be. He has a massive reputation.
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Post by Malex on Apr 27, 2024 21:47:46 GMT
Scored a fantastic backheel today similar to his one for the U21s a while back but was chalked off for offside
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 27, 2024 21:48:11 GMT
There’s a ginormous gulf between the premier league and children’s representative football. Stop being silly. He’s still a kid who needs to learn his trade. And PL clubs would take that talent on to develop. How would they develop him? By sending him out on loan.
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Post by thicknthin on Apr 27, 2024 21:49:47 GMT
MK Dons fans seem unanimous in the view he is a talented lad who has a good future in the game, but still learning. None seem to want him gone. People on here talking like he is shit, not good enough for league 2, and he won’t make it? He’s a boy learning a man’s game!
He might not be ripping it up now, but be patient, this lad is class. (a big ask for some on here I know) if the stars align he could be amazing for us in 2or 3 years time, and ok in between, the worry is ok is not good enough for the naysayers on here, who will ruin him before he has chance to shine.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 27, 2024 21:52:04 GMT
And PL clubs would take that talent on to develop. How would they develop him? By sending him out on loan. To the Championship on triple his wages.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 27, 2024 21:54:17 GMT
MK Dons fans seem unanimous in the view he is a talented lad who has a good future in the game, but still learning. None seem to want him gone. People on here talking like he is shit, not good enough for league 2, and he won’t make it? He’s a boy learning a man’s game! He might not be ripping it up now, but be patient, this lad is class. (a to to ask for some on here I know) if the stars align he could be amazing for us in 2or 3 years time, and ok in between, the worry is ok is not good enough for the naysayers on here, who will ruin him before he has chance to shine. I definitely don’t think that. He’s a really talented young player. The problem we have is he only signed a three year contract in 2022 and he’s spent 18 months injured. He’s way behind in his development, but clearly has talent. It would be a shame if he left and fulfilled it elsewhere.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 27, 2024 22:24:03 GMT
How about a collective number of well paid professional and experienced staff across different disciplines managing all aspects of a young footballers career progression, quality 👍, physical/endurance growth 👍 and mentality 👍?
In fact how many young aspiring young professional footballers (other than loan players) on our books have gone on to have a career to eclipse what was on offer at SCFC in the last 20 years?
I would imagine to come through the ranks at any club, and any standard would require ability, appropriate physical standards, strength of character/mentality and of course “LUCK” being in the right place at the right time.
Here is hoping that Emre becomes a folk hero for SCFC…….
Just my personal thoughts 👍
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 27, 2024 22:28:06 GMT
There’s a ginormous gulf between the premier league and children’s representative football. Stop being silly. He’s still a kid who needs to learn his trade. And PL clubs would take that talent on to develop. By sending him out on loan for the next two or three seasons.
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2024 22:28:07 GMT
How would they develop him? By sending him out on loan. To the Championship on triple his wages. No Championship club would take him atm he's a year a so behind
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 27, 2024 22:31:31 GMT
How would they develop him? By sending him out on loan. To the Championship on triple his wages. He wouldn’t get more than a few sub appearances next season in the Championship and you know it.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 27, 2024 22:32:22 GMT
With 46 Championship games and having 9 places on the bench each week it would be a headache at the best of times trying to decide who should be in the squad. From what I gather SS and JW want a smaller squad so do we fill it with 4 or 5 academy players each week for the bench. Otherwise you bring in a lot of loan players. Concerning Tezgel, Lowe, Sidibe etc I can understand sending some out on loan until January. See how it goes send a few more out on loan if need and recall others. Never an easy decision to make unless you have all the information. As supporters we can only presume what should happen. I think he said he wanted a smaller squad so that he could accommodate the academy players in training and on the bench. SS rightly said that it is very difficult when you have a squad of 25 senior professionals who want to be playing, to put academy lads on the bench ahead of them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2024 8:15:42 GMT
To the Championship on triple his wages. He wouldn’t get more than a few sub appearances next season in the Championship and you know it. He should be a regular sub in this league yes.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 28, 2024 8:25:46 GMT
For an 18 year old on his first loan he's actually done well and shown his promise.
I think it's 4 goals he's actually scored. One was wrongfully chalked as an og. That's in 15 mainly substitute appearances. He's also registered a few assists.
I wouldn't put much stock in the views of mk dons fans. What sort of person supports that club? He's only 18, not their player, so would be judged as harshly as we have the likes of Smallbone, delap etc.
We should tie him down to another contract. I agree he should be here next season coming off the bench.
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 28, 2024 9:26:14 GMT
He wouldn’t get more than a few sub appearances next season in the Championship and you know it. He should be a regular sub in this league yes. How’s that going to develop him? Better to be getting starts in league one or two.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2024 9:29:53 GMT
He should be a regular sub in this league yes. How’s that going to develop him? Better to be getting starts in league one or two. How is playing regularly as a sub going to develop him? Really?
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 28, 2024 9:34:39 GMT
How’s that going to develop him? Better to be getting starts in league one or two. How is playing regularly as a sub going to develop him? Really? It’s a fair question. What’s better for a young players development, regular game time in league 1, or sitting on the bench getting a few minutes here and there in the championship?
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Post by pmjh on Apr 28, 2024 9:46:14 GMT
The lad isn't 19 until September. After losing nearly a year out with a bad injury he's gradually settled into fulltime football scoring 3 in his last 5 games with 2 and 2 assists in his last 2. Both the last two finishes have been very assured for an 18 year old who is not yet a regular starter. I would imagine it wont be as Black or White as the club deciding to loan him out or not. The player and and his representatives will sit down and decide what is best for him. IMHO I would look at him in Pre season and look to send him out on loan with a Jan recall, possibly to MK who could be one of the best teams in that division. If he prefers to stay and fight for his place then keep him here. I would also be looking to extend his contract. I would hope that whoever manages the young players has a plan in place for someone with Emre's potential.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2024 9:50:15 GMT
How is playing regularly as a sub going to develop him? Really? It’s a fair question. What’s better for a young players development, regular game time in league 1, or sitting on the bench getting a few minutes here and there in the championship? Playing regularly as a sub is good development. I think he’d do well and end starting games.
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