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Post by retrostoke on Sept 24, 2023 20:53:34 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago.
I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements.
We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board.
10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us.
People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear.
They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month.
They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you,
Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud.
👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here.
PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern.
No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 24, 2023 20:56:19 GMT
Relegated Bottom half Bottom half Bottom half Bottom half Bottom half Probably bottom half
And being in a few relegation scraps too. You can’t criticise Stoke fans for being unhappy. This grateful to exist bollocks has to stop. As do the excuses. It’s not good enough.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 24, 2023 20:57:17 GMT
Destructive is a strong word.
We can’t destroy anything on an internet forum.
My stance is AN has had time now.
He’s had a 46 game season and achieved very little, taking us backwards in some elements.
We have some good players. The squad isn’t as balanced as it should be, but with the correct system, we will win games.
AN doesn’t seem capable of delivering that.
I don’t think that’s a destructive opinion.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 20:57:54 GMT
The Coates’ money is irrelevant if John is making the decisions. We might as well have my money behind us. It’s as much use.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 24, 2023 20:58:06 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either You are the one doing the club down. Most fans that are unhappy just think the club should be doing better, and they should be
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 24, 2023 20:58:10 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either I go to a lot of away games, but I'd like to think my views are balanced. I think there are many who post regularly who also have balanced views, Lordb, Davef, Trouserdog, Robwalhmam just to name a few. I do know what you mean though but I think the vast majority just say it as they see it, be it good or bad
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Post by gawa on Sept 24, 2023 20:58:32 GMT
Fuck off up the vale
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 20:59:12 GMT
Relegated Bottom half Bottom half Bottom half Bottom half Bottom half Probably bottom half And being in a few relegation scraps too. You can’t criticise Stoke fans for being unhappy. This grateful to exist bollocks has to stop. As do the excuses. It’s not good enough. Little old Stoke, happy with any old shit and no standards. The team got applauded off today. Now that’s fucking embarrassing.
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Post by lordb on Sept 24, 2023 20:59:34 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either I go to a lot of away games, but I'd like to think my views are balanced. I think there are many who post regularly who also have balanced views, Lordb, Davef, Trouserdog, Robwalhmam just to name a few. I do know what you mean though but I think the vast majority just say it as they see it, be it good or bad I'm not balanced today, completely unhinged
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Post by fortressbritannia on Sept 24, 2023 20:59:37 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either The Oatcake is representative as the fans who bleed red and white and have stood by the club in the dark days. You can travel away and still moan at a piss poor performance that we witnessed today.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Sept 24, 2023 21:00:42 GMT
In short, no it’s not. The ones who shout loudest are always going to use platforms such as this unfortunately.
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Post by greystokie on Sept 24, 2023 21:01:03 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either Do you think that recent performances don't merit any criticism of players and the managers?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 24, 2023 21:02:38 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either Fook off down to the Stafford Town FC if yoos don't fancy the Vale. Probably better than watching stoke right now 😆
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2023 21:04:04 GMT
In short, no it’s not. The ones who shout loudest are always going to use platforms such as this unfortunately. You’re happy with the last 7 years then?
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Post by neddy on Sept 24, 2023 21:04:36 GMT
As a season ticket holder for over 50 years I think 🤔 am allowed a view?
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Post by mozzer on Sept 24, 2023 21:04:46 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either Is the Oatcake representative of all Stoke fans Is it fuck.... 90% on here are knicker wetting jonny come latelys that need results this week, true stoke fans are not happy clappers but they persevere and take the rough with the smooth
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 24, 2023 21:05:06 GMT
The Coates’ money is irrelevant if John is making the decisions. We might as well have my money behind us. It’s as much use. And buy Haaland up front? Yes please Bayern. Get that wallet out mate 👌
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 21:05:16 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either Totally disagree with your analogy about the Prem. We had a quality side that we should have built upon even stronger to push on to better things. Instead, we went completely backwards. Spunked a load of cash on players with no heart or soul and then got relegated. We've then gone into a league where we haven't had a top half finish yet. So where is the unrealistic expectation you talk about? Supporters have every right to be fuming. We looked like we were on the cusp of several great years ahead, and now we are the textbook of how not to run a football club.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 24, 2023 21:08:37 GMT
They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. Are you going with league games only here or including cup ones as well? November 2021 if league only - lot of months to be complaining to be fair. Is winning three league games in a month a massive ask? Can we not have one good month at least? Maybe October will be it…
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 24, 2023 21:09:21 GMT
I have always been proud to be a Stoke fan. I’m not a Stoke lad, I was born in Stafford. My first game was in 1969 and if it wasn’t for Stoke I’d have given up on football a long time ago. I have always taken people on when they talk Stoke down. My first line of defence has always been the fans. Pride in the support has always outweighed our achievements. We are Stoke. We have put up with some shit in my 50 years. Way more than we are experiencing now. But I can’t ever recall a support so divisive, so fucking destructive and so vitriolic as this board. 10 years in the Premiership seems to have given us unrealistic expectation. We are still looking down on several bigger clubs than us. People want the Coates family out. Who the fuck they think will buy us out and invest similar money is never made clear. They want a change of manager if we don’t win at least 3 games a month. They demand we are top 6 every year. They want us to appoint managers who would likely say Stoke.. your joking aren’t you, Truth is that reading this board makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed. And seriously I don’t argue the toss with anyone any more about Stoke fans being loyal and proud. 👏👏👏 to everyone who still travels away. I hope they aren’t represented by people on here. PS. Don’t bother responding Bayern. No. I won’t fuck off up the Vale either Is the Oatcake representative of all Stoke fans Is it fuck.... 90% on here are knicker wetting jonny come latelys that need results this week, true stoke fans are not happy clappers but they persevere and take the rough with the smooth Been going since 1979. What we have seen this last 7 years is as wank as anything I can recall all things considered ie the fact we actually have money and proper wealthy owners. Its utter shyte chief. Dog eggs.
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Post by sticky on Sept 24, 2023 21:11:22 GMT
Yeah I’d say that it is. It feels like Groundhog Day following Stoke these last 6 or so years, shite after shite after shite, and just when you think there’s a glimmer of hope, a reality check.. in short it’s no wonder fans are moaning it’s not good enough
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Post by mrnovember on Sept 24, 2023 21:15:00 GMT
If it's an unrealistic expectation to ask a manager to put out a well prepared side, with a clear plan, deployed in a formation suitable to the players at his disposal, to at least compete with the likes of Hull, Millwall and Preston, then I might as well hand in my football fan card right now.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 24, 2023 21:16:53 GMT
There are times at games when I think fans can be impatient and not very understanding of what’s going on but, generally, we are a patient fan base until the tide turns.
We saw through Rowett’s bullshit and rubbish football, having spunked millions.
We gave Jones way too long which nearly saw us relegated.
We saw MON come in and perform brilliantly, then a fine first full season, and then went downhill from there.
We’ve seen Neil come in, heard about all the great work he can do but have, really, yet to see any evidence after a whole season’s worth of games.
We really aren’t impatient or over expectant. We just don’t want to be utterly directionless for any longer. We need to be given some hope, some belief we aren’t just going to be a bottom half, shit at home Championship side - or worse!
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 24, 2023 21:18:12 GMT
A load of dewy-eyed waffle about pride - which as we know comes before a fall - every manager since Hughes has been an abject failure and we are no better off than the day we dropped out of the Prem - the club have made some horrendous decisions stretching back to the I’ll-timed Hughes sacking on the heels of an FA cup defeat that whilst disappointing was neither here nor there. Not one of the appointments has been of sufficient quality or,potential to get >75% of the fan base unequivocally onside - it’s been a shit show for too long and we need to be bold with our next appointment both financially and strategically.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 24, 2023 21:22:45 GMT
I’m sure most supporters would be happy with attractive football and signs of progression. That’s not happening, therefore fans have the right to vent their spleen in any which way they like seeing as they’re the ones forking out of their decreasing disposable income every week to watch this utter rubbish
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 24, 2023 21:26:05 GMT
If all stoke fans are @@@@s then yes it's representative 😀
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Post by retrostoke on Sept 24, 2023 21:27:22 GMT
A load of dewy-eyed waffle about pride - which as we know comes before a fall - every manager since Hughes has been an abject failure and we are no better off than the day we dropped out of the Prem - the club have made some horrendous decisions stretching back to the I’ll-timed Hughes sacking on the heels of an FA cup defeat that whilst disappointing was neither here nor there. Not one of the appointments has been of sufficient quality or,potential to get >75% of the fan base unequivocally onside - it’s been a shit show for too long and we need to be bold with our next appointment both financially and strategically. Weren’t we bold when we appointed a successful International manager. Weren’t we bold when we prised AN from a progressive big club. Weren’t we bold appointing NJ who later attracted a Premiership club. Blessed with hindsight you are suggesting they were wrong. Give me a name of a financially and strategical manager to take us forward
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 24, 2023 21:27:50 GMT
If your local boozer started serving shite ale you wouldn’t waste your money. Pretty much the same thing
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 24, 2023 21:28:59 GMT
A load of dewy-eyed waffle about pride - which as we know comes before a fall - every manager since Hughes has been an abject failure and we are no better off than the day we dropped out of the Prem - the club have made some horrendous decisions stretching back to the I’ll-timed Hughes sacking on the heels of an FA cup defeat that whilst disappointing was neither here nor there. Not one of the appointments has been of sufficient quality or,potential to get >75% of the fan base unequivocally onside - it’s been a shit show for too long and we need to be bold with our next appointment both financially and strategically. Weren’t we bold when we appointed a successful International manager. Weren’t we bold when we prised AN from a progressive big club. Weren’t we bold appointing NJ who later attracted a Premiership club. Blessed with hindsight you are suggesting they were wrong. Give me a name of a financially and strategical manager to take us forward It’s Premier League not Premiership and has been for 16 years😉
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 24, 2023 21:30:22 GMT
Six years of bottom-half second division finishes, and getting worse. But the fans have “unrealistic expectations”. Presumably a realistic expectation would be to narrowly avoid relegation to the 3rd tier every year? Or would that be a bit much as well?
These posts would actually be quite insulting if they weren’t so laughably ridiculous.
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