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Post by hoppo96 on Sept 3, 2023 14:07:23 GMT
Tbh we're getting what we expected from him? He wasn't 'rock the city' during that loan spell, it was more him being better than people like Allen, Clucas, Thompson, etc. We knew he had a love for bookings, the fact he got booked within the first minute of yesterday was a surprise to nobody.
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Post by nonameface on Sept 3, 2023 14:10:21 GMT
Looks the same as he did last season.
His weaknesses are he's short, slow and injury prone.
His passing range, vision and in game understanding is as good as we can realistically expect to get though.
So you have to expect in some games he will be exposed more than others.
His lack of speed and Burgers is what makes it more important for us to have the 3rd midfielder more mobile than most, hence Laurent.
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Sept 3, 2023 14:35:36 GMT
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Post by chrispk on Sept 3, 2023 14:35:36 GMT
Booked in the first minute v Preston Booked within 5 mins on the pitch v Millwall You lose 30% of him for the rest of the game
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Sept 3, 2023 14:36:58 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 3, 2023 14:36:58 GMT
The midfield isn't the big issue, we dominated possession again.
The issue is up front and at the back, the key areas which we scrimped and saved on in the window
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Sept 3, 2023 14:39:42 GMT
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 3, 2023 14:39:42 GMT
Can we please stop acting like our players aren’t good because we lost a game. Pearson does what he does, and he did it well again yesterday bar the silly booking. Harsh booking in comparison with some other tackles in the game that went unpunished.
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Post by theoptimist on Sept 3, 2023 14:45:54 GMT
Can we please stop acting like our players aren’t good because we lost a game. Pearson does what he does, and he did it well again yesterday bar the silly booking. Harsh booking in comparison with some other tackles in the game that went unpunished. The ref had no option. It was a blatant trip. Braindead from Pearson. Agreed re consistency though.
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Post by kerouac on Sept 3, 2023 14:47:29 GMT
'Biddulph referred to ' 'those wastrels Clucas and Allen' Can't let this go. I know they're not our players anymore but whatever you think about Joe Allen and his so called limitations, 'a Wastrel' is grossly unfair. To a rather lesser extent it's not really fair on Clucas either. It’s definitely fair on Clucas.
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Sept 3, 2023 14:49:31 GMT
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 3, 2023 14:49:31 GMT
What has happened to him? Looks a pale imitation of last year? 4 year comfy contract? Every player has spell of good and bad but he’s not impressed me this season maybe he not fully fit who knows? He’s there just to do the basics but he can do them well on his day. With these stricter rules this season he’s a bit of a liability has well picking up needless yellows leaving the game on a tightrope.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 3, 2023 14:51:29 GMT
Agree to be honest. He's been a bit of a passenger in the midfield battles, yesterday, Millwall and Ipswich. I always thought he was ok, and what we needed but this season he's done very little and games have passed him by. Had about 15 mins yesterday but yet again they bossed the midfield. Becoming a common occurrence as teams know exactly how to set up against and we have no answer. He didn't play against milwall He didn’t start against Watford either. A little unfair to say he’s a passenger
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Sept 3, 2023 14:52:49 GMT
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 3, 2023 14:52:49 GMT
Can we please stop acting like our players aren’t good because we lost a game. Pearson does what he does, and he did it well again yesterday bar the silly booking. Harsh booking in comparison with some other tackles in the game that went unpunished. Agreed. The ref set the bar for the booking in the first 30 seconds then proceeded to let worst challenges go unpunished.
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 3, 2023 15:28:58 GMT
'Biddulph referred to ' 'those wastrels Clucas and Allen' Can't let this go. I know they're not our players anymore but whatever you think about Joe Allen and his so called limitations, 'a Wastrel' is grossly unfair. To a rather lesser extent it's not really fair on Clucas either. Ok fair, that’s harsh on Allen. He was crap and just ran around a lot in my opinion. Would have been fine in a Whelan role and if he knew his own limitations and could pass it to the players who could actually play - but he didn’t and ruined our midfield for 6 years with his garbage. As for Clucas - he was and is a wastrel, a nothing player and a bit of a dick too. No matter who we have in midfield now, and grateful I don’t have to watch that tosser standing around waving his arms and pointing at everyone else as he ambled about the pitch. And to cap it off, when he scored his 2 or 3 goals a season cupping his ears like he was some hard done by sod. One of the most hated players ever for me.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 3, 2023 20:48:34 GMT
What has happened to him? Looks a pale imitation of last year? 4 year comfy contract? He was really poor last year, save for a few early eye catching games and he’s been even worse this season to date.
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Sept 3, 2023 20:50:04 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 3, 2023 20:50:04 GMT
What has happened to him? Looks a pale imitation of last year? 4 year comfy contract? He was really poor last year, save for a few early eye catching games and he’s been even worse this season to date. Absolutely
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Sept 3, 2023 20:51:11 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 3, 2023 20:51:11 GMT
He didn't play against milwall He didn’t start against Watford either. A little unfair to say he’s a passenger It's not unfair at all. He's been poor . We beat Watford
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 3, 2023 21:45:57 GMT
Said from day one not fussed if he came back as I felt he was a liability last year as the last man in midfield millwall , Boro Bristol all ran over him for goals .
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Sept 3, 2023 21:53:07 GMT
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Post by whatsashig on Sept 3, 2023 21:53:07 GMT
I'm not a member of the "OMG! Pearson has totally transformed us club" but I'm not sure he's done much wrong so far? Been pretty solid in my opinion excepting the fact that he's a yellow card horder. Well I had him penned in as our next captain, now I'm not so sure, morphing into a middle of the road champ Glen whelan Hope he does become a Glenn whelan.
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Sept 3, 2023 21:55:52 GMT
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Post by whatsashig on Sept 3, 2023 21:55:52 GMT
The midfield isn't the big issue, we dominated possession again. The issue is up front and at the back, the key areas which we scrimped and saved on in the window It’s not possession it’s what you do with the ball tactically it maybe ok, but if players want take 2 touches every time we are trying to recycle the ball it’s opposition setting up with a cup of tea and a biscuit. And I mean something like a digestive so they get a couple of dips.
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Sept 3, 2023 23:01:47 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 3, 2023 23:01:47 GMT
Looks the same as he did last season. His weaknesses are he's short, slow and injury prone. His passing range, vision and in game understanding is as good as we can realistically expect to get though. So you have to expect in some games he will be exposed more than others. His lack of speed and Burgers is what makes it more important for us to have the 3rd midfielder more mobile than most, hence Laurent. That’s a fair assessment. However, Laurent leaves too much distance between himself and Wesley. I’d rather have a midfielder that leaves more space between Burger/Pearson than our solo CF.
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Sept 3, 2023 23:04:04 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 3, 2023 23:04:04 GMT
Said from day one not fussed if he came back as I felt he was a liability last year as the last man in midfield millwall , Boro Bristol all ran over him for goals . Totally how I see it. The kind of player we need but not him
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 4, 2023 13:30:33 GMT
I thought he was OK on Saturday and didn't need to make that tackle in the first minute. He stopped a few attacks, kept the ball moving and was generally OK. I don't get the need to go OTT when we lose.
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 4, 2023 13:35:40 GMT
Said from day one not fussed if he came back as I felt he was a liability last year as the last man in midfield millwall , Boro Bristol all ran over him for goals . Totally how I see it. The kind of player we need but not him He does get run over at times, granted. Probably because he’s quite small and doesn’t appear to have seen the inside of a gym for a while (including a treadmill). But i think he’s quite a smart player, often takes up good positions so he doesn’t really need the physical power, you could say he knows his limitations. Also think he’s quite good on the ball, moves it quickly most of the time and looks to go forward when he can, but no Hollywood passes. All in all, a decent / good player at this level and quite a consistent performer too
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Sept 4, 2023 15:13:26 GMT
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Post by stantheman on Sept 4, 2023 15:13:26 GMT
When was the last time we had a player pick up 5 yellow cards by the end of September?
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Post by thepottypotter on Sept 4, 2023 15:16:53 GMT
He's a quality DM. Best we will get in the Championship.
There are many other problems to worry about.
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Sept 4, 2023 16:29:46 GMT
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Post by foster on Sept 4, 2023 16:29:46 GMT
Can we please stop acting like our players aren’t good because we lost a game. Pearson does what he does, and he did it well again yesterday, bar the silly booking. Great post. Sums up this board nicely. He's decent for a DM, but most certainly not shit. He does what it says on the tin.
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Sept 4, 2023 16:39:33 GMT
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Sept 4, 2023 16:39:33 GMT
He has had personal issues I think so it's probably fair to cut him some slack until things are sorted
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Post by thevoid on Sept 4, 2023 17:34:26 GMT
When was the last time we had a player pick up 5 yellow cards by the end of September? How many would he have had in a Bournemouth shirt I wonder?
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Post by RF10 on Sept 4, 2023 17:38:43 GMT
Incredibly harsh comments on here. Stoke fans seem to always need a player who they can jump on.
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Sept 4, 2023 18:23:17 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 4, 2023 18:23:17 GMT
He's a quality DM. Best we will get in the Championship. There are many other problems to worry about. Not so sure Potty. The midfield in general has hardly been in it for too many games already. Maybe harsh singling out Pearson but but he's not performed too well at all for me, Laurent also. Is way too easy for the opposition. Our forwards can't get into games as a result.
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Sept 4, 2023 18:40:22 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 4, 2023 18:40:22 GMT
Despite the signings, midfield is our problem area. Offer very little cover in front of the back four and no creativity going forward or goal threat. I'm sure we have the players in the squad who are good enough, it's up to the coaching staff to put it right on the training ground.
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Post by idle on Sept 4, 2023 19:44:55 GMT
That's just plain wrong. One of the other comments mentions he sometimes moves between the centrebacks. Why do you think that is? To get the freaking ball from them and offer an alternative outlet. He wants the ball plenty. But we don't play like that, so he sees less of the ball. We've played long into the wings or to Wes, or short onto Burger or Johnson (and for some reason to Laurent) who's more in playmaker roles than a ball winning midfielder like Pearson. He's fine, does his job and gets carded to often, often correctly, but also from reputation. He's definitely in my first 11 this season, with Burger and Bae in midfield. Waaayyy ahead of Laurent or Thompson.
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