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Post by haway on Jul 20, 2023 9:54:03 GMT
If I was a player at the end of my career, I understand how it'd be almost impossible to turn down the money on offer. But the fact remains, it's still a country that beheads and maims people. It's still the country responsible for 9/11, the singular most powerful turning point of the world in our lifetime, it's still a country that murders journalists in other countries and countless other grim incidents. The state still owns Newcastle United, through their sovereign wealth fund. The House of Saud should rightly be up there with the worst families of all time. Now they're on a program of sportswashing to cover themselves. Am I right in saying the PL teams (especially Chelsea) have links to some of the teams, therefore they can pump up the prices to ease FFP over here? They should be avoided at all costs in my opinion, and if Stoke were hypothetically taken over by these animals, like Newcastle, I'd have to stop going. Personally I don’t really agree with the money argument. Take Henderson on 200k a week supposedly at Liverpool. That’s enough money to live an absolutely amazing life for yourself and your family. Does he really need to treble those wages? I could understand it more if someone who was on say 30k a year taxed, and got offered the chance to go there for 100k a year tax free - but with going from £10.5m a year taxed to £35m a year tax free…I don’t know - can the lifestyle seriously change that much? I’m not sure, I just find it weird to still be motivated by money even if you’re a multi millionaire here. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 20, 2023 9:56:31 GMT
If I was a player at the end of my career, I understand how it'd be almost impossible to turn down the money on offer. But the fact remains, it's still a country that beheads and maims people. It's still the country responsible for 9/11, the singular most powerful turning point of the world in our lifetime, it's still a country that murders journalists in other countries and countless other grim incidents. The state still owns Newcastle United, through their sovereign wealth fund. The House of Saud should rightly be up there with the worst families of all time. Now they're on a program of sportswashing to cover themselves. Am I right in saying the PL teams (especially Chelsea) have links to some of the teams, therefore they can pump up the prices to ease FFP over here? They should be avoided at all costs in my opinion, and if Stoke were hypothetically taken over by these animals, like Newcastle, I'd have to stop going. Personally I don’t really agree with the money argument. Take Henderson on 200k a week supposedly at Liverpool. That’s enough money to live an absolutely amazing life for yourself and your family. Does he really need to treble those wages? I could understand it more if someone who was on say 30k a year taxed, and got offered the chance to go there for 100k a year tax free - but with going from £10.5m a year taxed to £35m a year tax free…I don’t know - can the lifestyle seriously change that much? I’m not sure, I just find it weird to still be motivated by money even if you’re a multi millionaire here. That's why you're not a multi-millionaire! 😁 |
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 20, 2023 10:57:51 GMT
amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/25/england-players-shocked-at-qatar-human-rights-abuses-says-hendersonDoesn’t it just show that for all the gestures and protests that where morals are concerned they can still be bought. No issue with JH or any of the other pros going over there but don’t make out that you’re on moral higher ground than everyone else then move over there for big bucks. It really does stink of hypocrisy and makes one question how sincere these footballers are in what they say. I can 100 percent understand why the LGBT aren’t happy. I can see this issue rolling on. I’d love to see a reporter have the balls to ask him or Gerrard what they think of there employers human rights record. But isn’t it the case that a lot of the same kind of people running football in this country? Couldn’t you use the same argument for players signing for Man City or Newcastle ? |
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Post by haway on Jul 20, 2023 10:58:19 GMT
Personally I don’t really agree with the money argument. Take Henderson on 200k a week supposedly at Liverpool. That’s enough money to live an absolutely amazing life for yourself and your family. Does he really need to treble those wages? I could understand it more if someone who was on say 30k a year taxed, and got offered the chance to go there for 100k a year tax free - but with going from £10.5m a year taxed to £35m a year tax free…I don’t know - can the lifestyle seriously change that much? I’m not sure, I just find it weird to still be motivated by money even if you’re a multi millionaire here. That's why you're not a multi-millionaire! 😁 There’s loads of reasons why I’m not a multi-millionaire mate! |
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Post by scfcnicholas on Jul 20, 2023 11:13:01 GMT
amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/25/england-players-shocked-at-qatar-human-rights-abuses-says-hendersonDoesn’t it just show that for all the gestures and protests that where morals are concerned they can still be bought. No issue with JH or any of the other pros going over there but don’t make out that you’re on moral higher ground than everyone else then move over there for big bucks. It really does stink of hypocrisy and makes one question how sincere these footballers are in what they say. I can 100 percent understand why the LGBT aren’t happy. I can see this issue rolling on. I’d love to see a reporter have the balls to ask him or Gerrard what they think of there employers human rights record. But isn’t it the case that a lot of the same kind of people running football in this country? Couldn’t you use the same argument for players signing for Man City or Newcastle ? Exactly. People seem to take issue with it when it’s to the detriment of the Premier league though. Massive bunch of double standard penises. It also affirms the Henderson example that people are clearly using lgbqt to virtue signal. Simon Jordan was chatting some absolute garbage on talksport the other day. Saying because the premier league has constructed its product and its wealth over the course of years it’s much more acceptable than what Saudi are doing. Most pathetic argument I’ve heard in a long time. And then when a caller pretty much called him out making valid points, started to cut them off and shout “you’re wrong” 🤣. Standard |
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Post by Northy on Jul 20, 2023 16:05:16 GMT
That's why you're not a multi-millionaire! 😁 There’s loads of reasons why I’m not a multi-millionaire mate! Vaginas and beer ? |
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Post by haway on Jul 20, 2023 17:54:42 GMT
There’s loads of reasons why I’m not a multi-millionaire mate! Vaginas and beer ? I was going more with the angle that I’m either not smart enough or not dodgy enough - but those reasons work as well! |
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jul 20, 2023 18:43:17 GMT
The thing is though badge anyone being good enough to be offered 200k by Real is probably getting near a million in Saudi. Exactly this. It would also depend a bit what I was doing in my career at the time (but not that much). If I was Bellingham (for example) I’d take the few hundred k a week at RM. He can earn more later and will get big offers for many years. However, Mitrovic is near 29 and he’ll never win anything barring the Championship. So, why not make the most money he can for himself, his kids and their children in the future? This was said on Talksport about Henderson. Saying he will be securing his families future. The money these players earn they have more then already done that. If you have not done that when your on 200k a week then whet have you been doing wrong. These players don't need anymore than what they are currently on. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 20, 2023 18:50:38 GMT
Exactly this. It would also depend a bit what I was doing in my career at the time (but not that much). If I was Bellingham (for example) I’d take the few hundred k a week at RM. He can earn more later and will get big offers for many years. However, Mitrovic is near 29 and he’ll never win anything barring the Championship. So, why not make the most money he can for himself, his kids and their children in the future? This was said on Talksport about Henderson. Saying he will be securing his families future. The money these players earn they have more then already done that. If you have not done that when your on 200k a week then whet have you been doing wrong. These players don't need anymore than what they are currently on. People with big wages buy bigger houses, nicer tech and better cars. It wouldn’t shock me if he had a decent mortgage to pay despite his huge salary. In a world where money is King, you can never have enough. He’ll likely play at a low intensity for a couple of years and earn ludicrous amounts that will set his grandchildren up for life. He’ll also go an experience a different culture and the culture that he does experience won’t be one of the everyday Saudi. Sport can also be an occasion for good. When WWE first went to Saudi, their women were not allowed to wrestle. Now they have prominent roles in the events and are cheered. They have to dress up fully but that’s a big shift in attitude overall. I don’t expect him to go out there and be a warrior of the people. However, if there is more spotlight on their league, the govt may have to change policies to improve advertising deals etc. |
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 20, 2023 19:41:53 GMT
Some decent bloody signings that's for sure, and L'Equipe are saying Mane looks like he is going to Al-Nassr now.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 20, 2023 19:54:37 GMT
Let’s be honest, the vast majority of these players are now beyond their peak and just want to boost their bank balance before they retire.
It is what it is and tbh I don’t blame them.
Personally I could never live in a country like that for any money but I guess they’ll be used to all the riches associated already being multi million pound footballers
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Post by eddyclamp on Jul 21, 2023 10:04:40 GMT
Been reported that Silva the Fulham boss has been offered £40M on a 2 year contract to manage a Saudi club.
The mind boggles.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 21, 2023 10:07:57 GMT
Diaby has turned down Saudi for Aston Villa
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 21, 2023 10:24:22 GMT
Been reported that Silva the Fulham boss has been offered £40M on a 2 year contract to manage a Saudi club. The mind boggles. Mad Nath would work well over there for a fraction of the price  |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 21, 2023 12:00:20 GMT
Especially with Milner leaving, Henderson and Fabinho could be massive losses for Liverpool.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 21, 2023 17:18:16 GMT
Tripling a German 3rd division player's annual salary plus a house and a supercar! Bonkers
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2023 18:16:16 GMT
Especially with Milner leaving, Henderson and Fabinho could be massive losses for Liverpool. I don’t think so, their midfield needs a massive overhaul and they’ve signed two excellent midfielders already |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 22, 2023 1:23:52 GMT
Been reported that Silva the Fulham boss has been offered £40M on a 2 year contract to manage a Saudi club. The mind boggles. Mad Nath would work well over there for a fraction of the price Yep, I see his constant referencing to God going down really well in Saudi…. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 22, 2023 5:42:51 GMT
Especially with Milner leaving, Henderson and Fabinho could be massive losses for Liverpool. Henderson's leadership is the only thing they'll miss from that lot. Fabinho can't run anymore, they must be counting their lucky stars for getting that money for him. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 23, 2023 7:27:32 GMT
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Post by chad on Jul 23, 2023 7:31:20 GMT
All that that talent but I don’t think anyone will give a toss who wins the Saudi League
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 23, 2023 7:37:52 GMT
This is well dodgy He is being ‘bought’ for a huge fee by a Saudi club who also own Newcastle. How can that even be allowed? It’s a right scam going on here. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 23, 2023 7:42:58 GMT
This is well dodgy He is being ‘bought’ for a huge fee by a Saudi club who also own Newcastle. How can that even be allowed? It’s a right scam going on here. I am wondering if someone like Newcastle can sign some big names on a free with a 2 year contract and then after a year sell them on for big money - could it happen? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2023 8:20:25 GMT
This is well dodgy He is being ‘bought’ for a huge fee by a Saudi club who also own Newcastle. How can that even be allowed? It’s a right scam going on here. Most definitely is, and all centered around not falling foul of ffp. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2023 8:50:19 GMT
What fee would look not dodgy?
£35m?
More?
Less?
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 23, 2023 9:49:59 GMT
This is well dodgy He is being ‘bought’ for a huge fee by a Saudi club who also own Newcastle. How can that even be allowed? It’s a right scam going on here. I am wondering if someone like Newcastle can sign some big names on a free with a 2 year contract and then after a year sell them on for big money - could it happen? They can do what they want really. Its win/win for Newcastle. They can take a gamble on a player for say £30m if it's not working out, or they want an upgrade sell him for £60m to their Saudi club and buy another and see how they go. In the meantime FFP not an issue. Gives them a massive advantage, and exasperates the problem of other Prem League outside the Top 6 even dreaming of competing with them. |
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Post by Northy on Jul 23, 2023 9:55:57 GMT
I am wondering if someone like Newcastle can sign some big names on a free with a 2 year contract and then after a year sell them on for big money - could it happen? They can do what they want really. Its win/win for Newcastle. They can take a gamble on a player for say £30m if it's not working out, or they want an upgrade sell him for £60m to their Saudi club and buy another and see how they go. In the meantime FFP not an issue. Gives them a massive advantage, and exasperates the problem of other Prem League outside the Top 6 even dreaming of competing with them. The PL have checks in place to ensure players aren't being sold for inflated fees above market value. Whether they have the balls to use them against a club is another matter |
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 23, 2023 10:10:48 GMT
They can do what they want really. Its win/win for Newcastle. They can take a gamble on a player for say £30m if it's not working out, or they want an upgrade sell him for £60m to their Saudi club and buy another and see how they go. In the meantime FFP not an issue. Gives them a massive advantage, and exasperates the problem of other Prem League outside the Top 6 even dreaming of competing with them. The PL have checks in place to ensure players aren't being sold for inflated fees above market value. Whether they have the balls to use them against a club is another matter I just don't even know how that works though, and even if they sell him for something around his market value, it's still a racket, because they are shifting players to a guaranteed buyer to avoid FFP. They can easily justify a fee of £40m for him I reckon, maybe more. Has the PL ever used this check, or implemented it? |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 23, 2023 10:15:57 GMT
They can do what they want really. Its win/win for Newcastle. They can take a gamble on a player for say £30m if it's not working out, or they want an upgrade sell him for £60m to their Saudi club and buy another and see how they go. In the meantime FFP not an issue. Gives them a massive advantage, and exasperates the problem of other Prem League outside the Top 6 even dreaming of competing with them. The PL have checks in place to ensure players aren't being sold for inflated fees above market value. Whether they have the balls to use them against a club is another matter They can start with the two Liverpool have sold! 😁 |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 24, 2023 10:42:43 GMT
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