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Post by teenagefanclub on Feb 16, 2023 9:03:28 GMT
Is there not a thread on this? Or is it not allowed to be discussed on here?
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Post by lordb on Feb 16, 2023 9:31:29 GMT
Or it's not very interesting given there are little facts to discuss?
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Post by knype on Feb 16, 2023 9:32:10 GMT
Is there not a thread on this? Or is it not allowed to be discussed on here? I am sure it can be discussed? Not seen a thread, and it is interesting!
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Post by lordb on Feb 16, 2023 9:34:21 GMT
Is there not a thread on this? Or is it not allowed to be discussed on here? I am sure it can be discussed? Not seen a thread, and it is interesting! But what can we say about? we know pretty much nothing
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Post by teenagefanclub on Feb 16, 2023 9:34:33 GMT
From the outside the whole investigation seems flawed and they are getting pelters from all angles, more so after yesterdays statement and the “I can’t talk to dogs” sarky comment.
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Post by knype on Feb 16, 2023 9:39:06 GMT
I am sure it can be discussed? Not seen a thread, and it is interesting! But what can we say about? we know pretty much nothing I am sure we all have our own opinions / theories on what may have happened?
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 16, 2023 9:41:50 GMT
Who is Nicola Bulley?
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Post by gawa on Feb 16, 2023 9:54:39 GMT
One thing I wondered is about the dog. As it keeps being reported that the dog was found on the bench next to her phone. Was the dog tied to the bench though or did it have freedom to move. Because if its the latter then surely it would have went in the water after its owner, I know my dog would.
Also I dunno why but something doesn't sit right for me with the husband.
I know we shouldn't push conspiracies but something doesn't feel right about all of this.
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Post by butlerstbob on Feb 16, 2023 10:01:38 GMT
The dog wasn't found on the bench! It was found pacing between the bench and a nearby field gate!!
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Post by teenagefanclub on Feb 16, 2023 10:19:46 GMT
There are ex officers saying this case willl be used in police training for years as how not to run an investigation, clearly they think there have been major errors.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2023 10:32:09 GMT
I think she’s legged it.
Or killed herself and had it planned for a long time and created a space where she be hard to find.
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 16, 2023 10:37:07 GMT
seen some lovely conspiracy theories on twitter.
My favourite is the case is being used to push the micro chipping agenda and that she never existed in the first place and her family are actors.
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Post by butlerstbob on Feb 16, 2023 10:38:38 GMT
seen some lovely conspiracy theories on twitter. My favourite is the case is being used to push the micro chipping agenda and that she never existed in the first place and her family are actors. You follow starkiller on twitter?
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 16, 2023 10:44:41 GMT
I think she’s legged it. Or killed herself and had it planned for a long time and created a space where she be hard to find. Most likely outcomes aren't they. Is bizarre how she's managed to shake the dog though, I know mine wouldn't let me get away very easily
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 16, 2023 10:45:03 GMT
seen some lovely conspiracy theories on twitter. My favourite is the case is being used to push the micro chipping agenda and that she never existed in the first place and her family are actors. You follow starkiller on twitter? Don't think so mate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2023 10:50:11 GMT
I think she’s legged it. Or killed herself and had it planned for a long time and created a space where she be hard to find. Most likely outcomes aren't they. Is bizarre how she's managed to shake the dog though, I know mine wouldn't let me get away very easily It is re the dog. That’s the only bit that doesn’t add up. But with her history it seems like a planned suicide is probably what’s happened. It’s a very strange episode though.
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Post by 36dd on Feb 16, 2023 11:02:16 GMT
I feel lessons can certainly be learnt for Lancashire Police in how they have dealt with the media side of things.. in the beginning clearly they have been influenced (or effected) by social media & still continue to do so, after yesterdays press conference.
It’s certainly not giving the public any trust or faith in their investigation so far. More importantly I feel for her two children who were dropped off at school by Nicola, almost 3 weeks ago & they haven’t seen their mum since that day.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 16, 2023 11:47:11 GMT
a lot of questions re the partner/husband and the caravan site that his family own are getting asked
literally we know sod all except a lady has gone missing and had drink and health problems
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 16, 2023 12:57:07 GMT
Went for lunch with a police friend who's trained in forensic body recovery. The original investigation was dealt with as a what is known as a MISPER or missing person. For this reason the area where she went missing was not cordoned and treated as a crime scene. This is standard police MO for a MISPER apparently because police get numerous MISPER reports on a daily basis and do not have the resources to treat each one initially as a crime. He would not speculate on anything but did say that police do deliberately mislead the public if they have a valid lead to act upon. In other words they are happy to let all the speculation and conspiracies to continue as this could prevent interference into the genuine police investigations.
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Post by lordb on Feb 16, 2023 12:58:58 GMT
But what can we say about? we know pretty much nothing I am sure we all have our own opinions / theories on what may have happened? Nope She's gone missing Don’t have any other actual information to form an opinion Is this going to be like the Maddy case where people are 'absolutely certain' about stuff despite very little or nothing at all to go on?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 16, 2023 13:29:39 GMT
I am sure we all have our own opinions / theories on what may have happened? Nope She's gone missing Don’t have any other actual information to form an opinion Is this going to be like the Maddy case where people are 'absolutely certain' about stuff despite very little or nothing at all to go on? *Checks what website he's on* Yes. Yes it is.
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Post by 36dd on Feb 16, 2023 13:39:14 GMT
Went for lunch with a police friend who's trained in forensic body recovery. The original investigation was dealt with as a what is known as a MISPER or missing person. For this reason the area where she went missing was not cordoned and treated as a crime scene. This is standard police MO for a MISPER apparently because police get numerous MISPER reports on a daily basis and do not have the resources to treat each one initially as a crime. He would not speculate on anything but did say that police do deliberately mislead the public if they have a valid lead to act upon. In other words they are happy to let all the speculation and conspiracies to continue as this could prevent interference into the genuine police investigations. The DI Superintendent gave off a different view yesterday, and you could sense how fed up she was with the conspiracy theories plus Chinese whispers in relation to this incident. I’ve just read (sky news app) a YouTuber has been arrested and fined under public order for getting involved with the investigation.
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Post by adri2008 on Feb 16, 2023 15:08:03 GMT
Virtually nothing to go on so everything is speculation. Personally I think foul play is unlikely so shes most likely left the area of her own accord or fallen in the river as the police suspected.
Sounds like a bit of a circus with experts all sticking their oar in.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 16, 2023 15:25:14 GMT
Re: the OP, i don't think that it should be a question of whether or not it's allowed to be discussed on here, more a question of whether or not it should be, regardless of it being allowed? Given the fact that there basically are no facts for anyone to base any valid conclusions on, everything is just 100% speculation (as many have said already) and taking into account the family's wishes i.e. for everyone to respect what they're going through and their very specific wish for people to stop speculating, personally i think that's the road we should take. As interesting a case as it is (and i 100% can see why people ARE speculating), it's a real person that's missing and real people that are suffering, whilst a thread on here is no more than a tabloid whodunnit and i don't think she (or her friends and family) deserves that.
(EDIT: In case of any confusion, I'm certainly not criticising the OP for asking the question and appreciate that they were probably more intrigued as to why such a national talking point didn't have a thread, rather than them necessarily thinking that we definitely should)
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 16, 2023 15:37:50 GMT
Also I dunno why but something doesn't sit right for me with the husband. Come on mate, you're better than this. These are real people we're talking about here, it's not last night's episode of The Bill that's up for discussion. I agree with Millsy above, otherwise we'll all soon be on the slippery slope ...
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 16, 2023 15:38:09 GMT
Re: the OP, i don't think that it should be a question of whether or not it's allowed to be discussed on here, more a question of whether or not it should be, regardless of it being allowed? Given the fact that there basically are no facts for anyone to base any valid conclusions on, everything is just 100% speculation (as many have said already) and taking into account the family's wishes i.e. for everyone to respect what they're going through and their very specific wish for people to stop speculating, personally i think that's the road we should take. As interesting a case as it is (and i 100% can see why people ARE speculating), it's a real person that's missing and real people that are suffering, whilst a thread on here is no more than a tabloid whodunnit and i don't think she (or her friends and family) deserves that. (EDIT: In case of any confusion, I'm certainly not criticising the OP for asking the question and appreciate that they were probably more intrigued as to why such a national talking point didn't have a thread, rather than them necessarily thinking that we definitely should)
The family and friends aren't gonna read this.
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Post by Northy on Feb 16, 2023 15:39:13 GMT
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 16, 2023 15:44:27 GMT
Re: the OP, i don't think that it should be a question of whether or not it's allowed to be discussed on here, more a question of whether or not it should be, regardless of it being allowed? Given the fact that there basically are no facts for anyone to base any valid conclusions on, everything is just 100% speculation (as many have said already) and taking into account the family's wishes i.e. for everyone to respect what they're going through and their very specific wish for people to stop speculating, personally i think that's the road we should take. As interesting a case as it is (and i 100% can see why people ARE speculating), it's a real person that's missing and real people that are suffering, whilst a thread on here is no more than a tabloid whodunnit and i don't think she (or her friends and family) deserves that. (EDIT: In case of any confusion, I'm certainly not criticising the OP for asking the question and appreciate that they were probably more intrigued as to why such a national talking point didn't have a thread, rather than them necessarily thinking that we definitely should)
The family and friends aren't gonna read this. Up to you mate. As i said, I personally am going down the "respect their wishes' route and i don't think that "respect" is a virtue that is determined by whether or not they read it. That's just being dispectful behind their back, as far as i see it. But i'm not going to get all offended and cancel culture about anyone who disagrees with me. Crack on if you want.
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Post by gawa on Feb 16, 2023 15:54:47 GMT
Also I dunno why but something doesn't sit right for me with the husband. Come on mate, you're better than this. These are real people we're talking about here, it's not last night's episode of The Bill that's up for discussion. I agree with Millsy above, otherwise we'll all soon be on the slippery slope ...
That's true, I think I'm best staying out of this lol. I've not followed it enough to have any real opinion but there's so many snippets which I'd love to know more on. Like the teams call. What was it about? When did she stop speaking? The dog. Keeps saying found on a bench. Was it tied to the bench though? Does a dog just sit there and do nothing if it's owner has fallen in a river or has been abducted? I doubt it like. And yeah I shouldn't speculate on the family as it does no good. Just all feels so bizarre and doesn't add up. Like no dog I know would just sit on a bench while it's owner drowns or gets abducted And how can police be so convinced she's in the river. Is the cctv surrounding the park that thorough that they are confident she didn't leave? I find it very weird to think someone goes in a river without a dog going after it or reacting to it, and without anyone else noticing either. So then I just keep coming back to the teams call. Someone intending to harm themselves wouldn't join that call and leave no note or indication that they intend to hurt themselves. People who kill themselves, and especially those with families, often tend to leave a note rather than try and die and vanish all in one. And joining a call, not leaving it, and leaving the phone on the bench just don't add up. So then I think abduction maybe? But again the dog is so important in all this. Was he tied up? Was he distressed? Just feels like there are some small bits of info not in the public domain which could make a big difference in what likely happened.
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Post by werrington on Feb 16, 2023 16:00:05 GMT
Re: the OP, i don't think that it should be a question of whether or not it's allowed to be discussed on here, more a question of whether or not it should be, regardless of it being allowed? Given the fact that there basically are no facts for anyone to base any valid conclusions on, everything is just 100% speculation (as many have said already) and taking into account the family's wishes i.e. for everyone to respect what they're going through and their very specific wish for people to stop speculating, personally i think that's the road we should take. As interesting a case as it is (and i 100% can see why people ARE speculating), it's a real person that's missing and real people that are suffering, whilst a thread on here is no more than a tabloid whodunnit and i don't think she (or her friends and family) deserves that. (EDIT: In case of any confusion, I'm certainly not criticising the OP for asking the question and appreciate that they were probably more intrigued as to why such a national talking point didn't have a thread, rather than them necessarily thinking that we definitely should)
The family and friends aren't gonna read this. So that’s ok then? Fuck me just imagine for one minute if something like this happened to one of your loved ones and people were posting utter bollocks and nasty hateful rumours with no substance You’d be ok with that yeah?
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