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Post by LGH87 on Feb 16, 2023 16:04:12 GMT
The family and friends aren't gonna read this. So that’s ok then? Fuck me just imagine for one minute if something like this happened to one of your loved ones and people were posting utter bollocks and nasty hateful rumours with no substance You’d be ok with that yeah? How would I know about them? Twitter yeah cos thats out there to be reshared etc but chances of them reading this board are absolutely zilch, us discussing it on here is no different to me and my mrs discussing it at home. Not sure anyone on this thread has posted any nasty hateful rumours either, yet another case of you jumping in at the deep end when it's not really necessary, if you don't want to partake then fine maybe take a leaf out of MickMill's book whose post was far more reasoned.
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Post by werrington on Feb 16, 2023 16:13:05 GMT
So that’s ok then? Fuck me just imagine for one minute if something like this happened to one of your loved ones and people were posting utter bollocks and nasty hateful rumours with no substance You’d be ok with that yeah? How would I know about them? Twitter yeah cos thats out there to be reshared etc but chances of them reading this board are absolutely zilch, us discussing it on here is no different to me and my mrs discussing it at home. Not sure anyone on this thread has posted any nasty hateful rumours either, yet another case of you jumping in at the deep end when it's not really necessary, if you don't want to partake then fine maybe take a leaf out of MickMill's book whose post was far more reasoned. I’d revisit and read it again if I were you Bayern saying he thinks she’s killed herself and gawa saying the husband doesn’t sit right with him? You’d call them acceptable rumours then? Let’s leave it at that eh
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 16, 2023 16:14:09 GMT
How would I know about them? Twitter yeah cos thats out there to be reshared etc but chances of them reading this board are absolutely zilch, us discussing it on here is no different to me and my mrs discussing it at home. Not sure anyone on this thread has posted any nasty hateful rumours either, yet another case of you jumping in at the deep end when it's not really necessary, if you don't want to partake then fine maybe take a leaf out of MickMill's book whose post was far more reasoned. I’d revisit and read it again if I were you Bayern saying he thinks she’s killed herself and gawa saying the husband doesn’t sit right with him? You’d call them acceptable rumours then? Let’s leave it at that eh Just opinions mate, everyone's entitled to them. If they offend you, don't open the thread. Simples.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 16, 2023 16:19:57 GMT
there is an astonishing number of people every year noted as mispers who just up and vanish for very little reason that can be worked out, a lot i guess just go off grid and create new lives and live our perfectly happily, some might go abroad, but they are never found or heard from again
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 16, 2023 16:29:25 GMT
there is an astonishing number of people every year noted as mispers who just up and vanish for very little reason that can be worked out, a lot i guess just go off grid and create new lives and live our perfectly happily, some might go abroad, but they are never found or heard from again I've always found this really bizarre, the sheer number of people it happens to as well, why is it not a bigger thing, it's almost like it's just accepted.
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Post by teenagefanclub on Feb 16, 2023 16:49:46 GMT
there is an astonishing number of people every year noted as mispers who just up and vanish for very little reason that can be worked out, a lot i guess just go off grid and create new lives and live our perfectly happily, some might go abroad, but they are never found or heard from again I've always found this really bizarre, the sheer number of people it happens to as well, why is it not a bigger thing, it's almost like it's just accepted. Sheer number of people and the lottery of which one the media /police decide will be the big story/ priority
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Post by dave1 on Feb 16, 2023 17:05:07 GMT
I may be wrong with this but I think that one of the senior coppers working on this case is local (or her parents are).
I heard this because she must have done an interview of the tele!
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Post by callas12 on Feb 17, 2023 1:11:30 GMT
Come on mate, you're better than this. These are real people we're talking about here, it's not last night's episode of The Bill that's up for discussion. I agree with Millsy above, otherwise we'll all soon be on the slippery slope ... That's true, I think I'm best staying out of this lol. I've not followed it enough to have any real opinion but there's so many snippets which I'd love to know more on. Like the teams call. What was it about? When did she stop speaking? The dog. Keeps saying found on a bench. Was it tied to the bench though? Does a dog just sit there and do nothing if it's owner has fallen in a river or has been abducted? I doubt it like. And yeah I shouldn't speculate on the family as it does no good. Just all feels so bizarre and doesn't add up. Like no dog I know would just sit on a bench while it's owner drowns or gets abducted And how can police be so convinced she's in the river. Is the cctv surrounding the park that thorough that they are confident she didn't leave? I find it very weird to think someone goes in a river without a dog going after it or reacting to it, and without anyone else noticing either. So then I just keep coming back to the teams call. Someone intending to harm themselves wouldn't join that call and leave no note or indication that they intend to hurt themselves. People who kill themselves, and especially those with families, often tend to leave a note rather than try and die and vanish all in one. And joining a call, not leaving it, and leaving the phone on the bench just don't add up. So then I think abduction maybe? But again the dog is so important in all this. Was he tied up? Was he distressed? Just feels like there are some small bits of info not in the public domain which could make a big difference in what likely happened. Reference the Teams call she was on I heard this answered in one report, it said she was on to simply listen to other folk talking in the meeting & was muted herself and had no live camera option on at the time, which to be fair happens in alot of meetings I expect. So it sounds like she was showing as being present online but no-one present on the call would have been able to see or know what she was doing at any given time during it. It did seem an obvious line of enquiry that could potentially have been quite revealing, but ultimately when the meeting ended its unlikely anyone would of known her device was still logged in & hadn't exited the call.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 17, 2023 2:21:37 GMT
there is an astonishing number of people every year noted as mispers who just up and vanish for very little reason that can be worked out, a lot i guess just go off grid and create new lives and live our perfectly happily, some might go abroad, but they are never found or heard from again If Nicola Bulley was fat and rats we’d have never heard of this.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 17, 2023 4:21:15 GMT
I find the whole public response around the investigation disgusting particularly around Social media.
What sort of sick people go to where she went missing to take photo’s for their blog or whatever social media account they hold?
It’s sickening and a sad reflection on a country and a society where the public look on a lady disappearing as some sort of whodunnit with little thought for her family (I’m talking about twitter not here) where pretty much any member of the public or family member has access to what’s being said.
Common decency just appears to have gone out of the window to be replaced by the greed for hits or likes.
I’m not surprised that the police felt they had to put more information out on the poor ladys life when there’s so much unfounded speculation out there. Not sure it was the right thing to do but it’s a very worrying precedent like with politics when decisions are made because of the pressure coming from the general public through social media.
I’d be happy if twitter, facebook and instagram were all folded they’re poisonous.
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Post by adri2008 on Feb 17, 2023 8:04:34 GMT
I find the whole public response around the investigation disgusting particularly around Social media. What sort of sick people go to where she went missing to take photo’s for their blog or whatever social media account they hold? It’s sickening and a sad reflection on a country and a society where the public look on a lady disappearing as some sort of whodunnit with little thought for her family (I’m talking about twitter not here) where pretty much any member of the public or family member has access to what’s being said. Common decency just appears to have gone out of the window to be replaced by the greed for hits or likes. I’m not surprised that the police felt they had to put more information out on the poor ladys life when there’s so much unfounded speculation out there. Not sure it was the right thing to do but it’s a very worrying precedent like with politics when decisions are made because of the pressure coming from the general public through social media. I’d be happy if twitter, facebook and instagram were all folded they’re poisonous. I completely agree with social media. It's a blight on society - it gives people the easy means to cause others pain (not necessarily maliciously) from the tap of a few keys yet people feel obliged to take part in it.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 17, 2023 8:05:09 GMT
there is an astonishing number of people every year noted as mispers who just up and vanish for very little reason that can be worked out, a lot i guess just go off grid and create new lives and live our perfectly happily, some might go abroad, but they are never found or heard from again I've always found this really bizarre, the sheer number of people it happens to as well, why is it not a bigger thing, it's almost like it's just accepted. Missing person investigations by police are not treated as a crime until evidence of a crime is found. This is because of the large numbers of MISPERS reports would just overwhelm police forces. In Plymouth couple of years ago a young woman went missing but at the scene of her last sighting it was obvious an abduction had occurred and police immediately started a crime investigation. Sadly she was found murdered few miles away.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 17, 2023 8:45:54 GMT
I find the whole public response around the investigation disgusting particularly around Social media. What sort of sick people go to where she went missing to take photo’s for their blog or whatever social media account they hold? It’s sickening and a sad reflection on a country and a society where the public look on a lady disappearing as some sort of whodunnit with little thought for her family (I’m talking about twitter not here) where pretty much any member of the public or family member has access to what’s being said. Common decency just appears to have gone out of the window to be replaced by the greed for hits or likes. I’m not surprised that the police felt they had to put more information out on the poor ladys life when there’s so much unfounded speculation out there. Not sure it was the right thing to do but it’s a very worrying precedent like with politics when decisions are made because of the pressure coming from the general public through social media. I’d be happy if twitter, facebook and instagram were all folded they’re poisonous. "Not sure it was the right thing to do but it’s a very worrying precedent like with politics when decisions are made because of the pressure coming from the general public through social media." I totally agree and don't actually partake in any of those platforms. However, political decisions, as I found out at the talk I attended recently, are also sometimes made on the 'evidence' presented by publications such as the Daily Mail. I find that equally disturbing because as was also illustrated at the talk, they're not averse to telling lies intentionally, so to make laws based on their 'information' is absolute folly, but we still do it apparently.
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Post by riverman on Feb 17, 2023 12:57:33 GMT
there is an astonishing number of people every year noted as mispers who just up and vanish for very little reason that can be worked out, a lot i guess just go off grid and create new lives and live our perfectly happily, some might go abroad, but they are never found or heard from again This. IF she's as troubled as is being made out then I think there's a good chance she's decided "do a runner" I certainly hope that is the case and she turns up alive and well.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Feb 17, 2023 13:01:21 GMT
I find the whole public response around the investigation disgusting particularly around Social media. What sort of sick people go to where she went missing to take photo’s for their blog or whatever social media account they hold? It’s sickening and a sad reflection on a country and a society where the public look on a lady disappearing as some sort of whodunnit with little thought for her family (I’m talking about twitter not here) where pretty much any member of the public or family member has access to what’s being said. Common decency just appears to have gone out of the window to be replaced by the greed for hits or likes. I’m not surprised that the police felt they had to put more information out on the poor ladys life when there’s so much unfounded speculation out there. Not sure it was the right thing to do but it’s a very worrying precedent like with politics when decisions are made because of the pressure coming from the general public through social media. I’d be happy if twitter, facebook and instagram were all folded they’re poisonous. It's becoming very much an adult version of the McCann disappearance.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 17, 2023 13:15:26 GMT
I find the whole public response around the investigation disgusting particularly around Social media. What sort of sick people go to where she went missing to take photo’s for their blog or whatever social media account they hold? It’s sickening and a sad reflection on a country and a society where the public look on a lady disappearing as some sort of whodunnit with little thought for her family (I’m talking about twitter not here) where pretty much any member of the public or family member has access to what’s being said. Common decency just appears to have gone out of the window to be replaced by the greed for hits or likes. I’m not surprised that the police felt they had to put more information out on the poor ladys life when there’s so much unfounded speculation out there. Not sure it was the right thing to do but it’s a very worrying precedent like with politics when decisions are made because of the pressure coming from the general public through social media. I’d be happy if twitter, facebook and instagram were all folded they’re poisonous. It's becoming very much an adult version of the McCann disappearance. a post went viral on social media this week from a girl the right age claiming to be young Madeline, had the eye thing and similar in facial structure but i discounted it as mischief making it was too perfect
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2023 13:27:17 GMT
How would I know about them? Twitter yeah cos thats out there to be reshared etc but chances of them reading this board are absolutely zilch, us discussing it on here is no different to me and my mrs discussing it at home. Not sure anyone on this thread has posted any nasty hateful rumours either, yet another case of you jumping in at the deep end when it's not really necessary, if you don't want to partake then fine maybe take a leaf out of MickMill's book whose post was far more reasoned. I’d revisit and read it again if I were you Bayern saying he thinks she’s killed herself and gawa saying the husband doesn’t sit right with him? You’d call them acceptable rumours then? Let’s leave it at that eh I found out my Grandad died reading a thread on here. People were making jokes about cyclists etc. I wasn't arsed by that, it's human nature.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 17, 2023 14:22:55 GMT
Bottom line is the only people with all of the available information is the police. All the armchair detectives and social commentary is irrelevant, but sadly the inane clamour for fame or getting noticed on social media has meant the police disclosing information they would have rather not. Had they said nothing the same people would be having a go at them. I've read a column by a former detective who's only comment was "I cannot and will not comment as the only ones with information are the investigating team". That's the way it should be, but all the mainstream media keep wheeling out these so called retired officers and search experts who are no doubt getting a fee just to keep this whole story going.They should be ashamed of themselves and ask themselves if they would've welcomed someone sticking their nose in on their investigations when it was not invited.
I truly hope she is found safe and well, but the speculation and reality should be the preserve of the investigating officers and shared, where appropriate, with the family.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 17, 2023 16:46:25 GMT
Bottom line is the only people with all of the available information is the police. All the armchair detectives and social commentary is irrelevant, but sadly the inane clamour for fame or getting noticed on social media has meant the police disclosing information they would have rather not. Had they said nothing the same people would be having a go at them. I've read a column by a former detective who's only comment was "I cannot and will not comment as the only ones with information are the investigsting team". That's the way it should be, but all the mainstream media keep wheeling out these so called retired officers and search experts who are no doubt getting a fee just to keep this whole story going.They should be ashamed of themselves and ask themselves if they would've welcomed someone sticking their nose in on their investigations when it was not invited. I truly hope she is found safe and well, but the speculation and reality should be the preserve of the investigating officers and shared, where appropriate, with the family. Well said.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 17, 2023 16:58:56 GMT
I’d revisit and read it again if I were you Bayern saying he thinks she’s killed herself and gawa saying the husband doesn’t sit right with him? You’d call them acceptable rumours then? Let’s leave it at that eh Just opinions mate, everyone's entitled to them. If they offend you, don't open the thread. Simples. Doesn't mean folk have to have one. Especially on something so contentious.
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Post by Northy on Feb 17, 2023 17:09:38 GMT
there is an astonishing number of people every year noted as mispers who just up and vanish for very little reason that can be worked out, a lot i guess just go off grid and create new lives and live our perfectly happily, some might go abroad, but they are never found or heard from again Thanks, I thought there may be a few, I'll have to look into it and see actually how many
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Post by felonious on Feb 17, 2023 17:45:58 GMT
there is an astonishing number of people every year noted as mispers who just up and vanish for very little reason that can be worked out, a lot i guess just go off grid and create new lives and live our perfectly happily, some might go abroad, but they are never found or heard from again Thanks, I thought there may be a few, I'll have to look into it and see actually how many There was a report on Newsnight last night I caught the end of it I think they said something like 130,000? reports of missing people each year which swamps the police and something like 99% turn up within a week hence the reluctance to treat them as a crime scene immediately because of manpower. The report also referred to the fact that the family were consulted and were supportive of the police going public with this information. One of the reasons given for the family's decision was that they were aware of local people with knowledge of the family preparing to sell their stories to newspapers. The release of this information meant they retained some control and dignity over the subject matter. There is some real scum about amidst us and that's before you get to the gutter press.
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Post by milton58 on Feb 18, 2023 15:02:45 GMT
If I fell into a river I have no doubt both of my dogs would be straight in after me or at least try and follow me I've no doubt my westie would go ballistic would bark his head off to get attention...Yorkie would be straight in after me
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 19, 2023 14:54:22 GMT
Been found in the river
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Post by stokefc on Feb 19, 2023 14:56:58 GMT
RIP
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Post by steve66 on Feb 19, 2023 15:32:36 GMT
Tragic, heart goes out to family
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 19, 2023 15:36:38 GMT
RIP Nicola. The head of the diving team, Specialist Group International, who stated she was “categorically not” in the river is going to look a right tit now.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 19, 2023 15:42:55 GMT
RIP
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 19, 2023 15:52:05 GMT
RIP Nicola. The head of the diving team, Specialist Group International, who stated she was “categorically not” in the river is going to look a right tit now. That bloke is a cock and was only ever after self promotion of his business. I’d like to say I have been astonished at some of the rubbish theories out there, but sadly the great British public never ceases to amaze; I think my favourite was she was taken by a big, wild cat, but now people are suggesting she has been put back in the river…Jesus H Christ! If this does turn out to be Nicola then she will be systematically, forensically examined and once there is no evidence of foul play (which appears to be the case from the get go by the police hypothesis) there are going to be some very stupid people shown up for what they are. I imagine they will be falling over each other to apologise to the police and the hurt they have caused Nicola’s family. RIP Nicola, or whoever the poor sole is if it’s not her.
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Post by deeside2 on Feb 19, 2023 17:28:11 GMT
Awful news for her family. How can she have been missed during such an extensive search of the river.
RIP
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