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Post by johnfarmersmum on Feb 12, 2023 22:08:55 GMT
My view ..Yes over the last 25 games
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 12, 2023 22:11:32 GMT
My view ..Yes over the last 25 games History says it wouldn’t be much different, might have seen a few more goals in both nets. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 12, 2023 22:14:22 GMT
My view ..Yes over the last 25 games What would’ve gone better do you think? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2023 22:16:44 GMT
I think he would but we’ll never know. He didn’t have the luxury of Souttar and Powell being back before his departure and we have evidence of us playing really well with both in the team prior to their respective injuries. Still relatively days under Neil but how many players have improved under him to date? I think the answer is none.
If you take the Huddersfield away game when we lost 3-1, we were a missed penalty and wrongly ruled out offside goal away from winning that game. All of a sudden our start is W2 D1 L2 and no one really bats an eyelid.
All ifs buts and maybes though…..
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2023 22:17:39 GMT
My view ..Yes over the last 25 games What would’ve gone better do you think? Powell would have started another 6/7 games by now……. |
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Post by march4 on Feb 12, 2023 22:19:38 GMT
No, no and absolutely no.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 12, 2023 22:20:15 GMT
What would’ve gone better do you think? Powell would have started another 6/7 games by now……. Might have helped us a bit but we’d still have had the same issues in goal/at the back/at wing back/up front… |
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Post by st3mark on Feb 12, 2023 22:26:06 GMT
MON win ratio was 38.46%
Neil's win ratio is 34.78%
To find a higher win ratio that MON we have to go back to Gudjon.
I think MON would have done better with this squad slightly. I'm hopeful that Neil will produce next season with his own squad. I had a lot of patience with MON because he has kept the club afloat and not spent a penny that he didn't generate from sales. And still managed to have the best win ratio for 20 years.
Ultimately he had to go because it had become so boring that he had lost the fans. I was hoping for more from Neil results wise so far but he has promoted teams before so clearly knows what it takes. Sticking with him for now. The club needs some consistency so that someone can build something.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 12, 2023 22:27:48 GMT
This will be interesting. Time for popcorn.
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 12, 2023 22:31:37 GMT
Would we be doing as well as we should? No. So getting rid was still the right decision whether he would have gained a handful more points or not.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 12, 2023 22:34:43 GMT
O'Neil had clearly lost his way.. it's hard to be sure if Neil has even found one, as things stand right now.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2023 22:34:52 GMT
Powell would have started another 6/7 games by now……. Might have helped us a bit but we’d still have had the same issues in goal/at the back/at wing back/up front… When fit Clarke and Tymon would have been nailed on for the wing back spot and I remain convinced that Clarke would have done a decent enough job there with a run of games. The 3 centre backs we would have had see how it planned out but I certainly think Taylor would have played more minutes….. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 12, 2023 22:40:29 GMT
Might have helped us a bit but we’d still have had the same issues in goal/at the back/at wing back/up front… When fit Clarke and Tymon would have been nailed on for the wing back spot and I remain convinced that Clarke would have done a decent enough job there with a run of games. The 3 centre backs we would have had see how it planned out but I certainly think Taylor would have played more minutes….. Thought Clarke wasn’t great personally and even then we’d have had a run of games with either Sparrow/Fosu there until he was fit again. He was trying to sign another deathly slow centre back for his back three in Fernandes before he was sacked. In midfield he’d somehow fallen back on Clucas again and we still looked badly in need of someone to play the holding role then. |
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Post by maine on Feb 12, 2023 22:40:52 GMT
Absolutely not. O'Neill was a fish out of water. Neil may well be effective in the longer run.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 12, 2023 22:53:59 GMT
No.
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Post by nonameface on Feb 12, 2023 22:58:56 GMT
Probably, but he's not here.
Neil is still integrating youth and that's going to be the only way we go up, either through them being good enough or raising decent funds.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 12, 2023 23:11:58 GMT
MO'N was given a few windows to bring in his own players after the shit left behind by Nathan Jones.....it's safe to say, much of O'Neill's signings were shit also!!!
Now we've at least got to give Neil this summer to bring in HIS players, and see what he can do..... Keeping Pearson would be a good start!!!
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Post by independent on Feb 12, 2023 23:17:22 GMT
We will never know. we can only offer our opinions, supported by whatever evidence we can find to back up our judgement.
MON record is that he finished with 56 points, then 60 points and finally 62 points.In his last 16 games last season
( as his performance declined, according to his detracters) he won 5 drew 4 and lost 7 and amassed 19 points.
If Alex can equal that then we should be safe on 52 points, which you might have noticed is lower than MON's worst tally.
Some people claim that he would have had a weaker side this year, against that I would argue that the league is much weaker this year.
I would also argue that he would have gotten more out of the players at his disposal, as he has demonstrated over the last 2.5 seasons.
I can't think of any of our players who are playing better this year under AN than they did last year under MON.
In fact it looks as if the first player on the teamsheet this year is Smallbone who was actually signed by MON.
Does the above mean that MON would have done better, of course not, but MON has a record of 1.28 pts per game AN has a tally of 1.125 .
Last year "as he lost the plot" he had 1.35 points per game. Even in his last 16 games he has a higher points per game than AN has.
People can and will make up their own minds.
We have a manager that we must hope will improve his performance when he gets his own players in.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Feb 12, 2023 23:22:39 GMT
What would’ve gone better do you think? Powell would have started another 6/7 games by now……. Sorry but disagree can’t see him playing more than 3 games between now and the end of season. |
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Post by independent on Feb 12, 2023 23:25:23 GMT
Powell would have started another 6/7 games by now……. Sorry but disagree can’t see him playing more than 3 games between now and the end of season. are you having problems understanding the term "by now" |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 12, 2023 23:29:29 GMT
I’d rather MON to Alex Neil every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 12, 2023 23:35:12 GMT
No.
We’d be in the bottom 3 now and for most of the season.
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Post by independent on Feb 12, 2023 23:40:29 GMT
Please explain how you come to the conclusion that we would be in the bottom 3 now with some actual facts. Please don't keep giving us your opinion but show us what you base it on.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 12, 2023 23:44:50 GMT
Powell would have started another 6/7 games by now……. Might have helped us a bit but we’d still have had the same issues in goal/at the back/at wing back/up front… He wouldn’t have helped, he’s always injured (a fact that was poo pood on here numerous times a few months ago but finally people are beginning to see the light) Nick Powell is part of the problem not the solution |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2023 23:47:25 GMT
Might have helped us a bit but we’d still have had the same issues in goal/at the back/at wing back/up front… He wouldn’t have helped, he’s always injured (a fact that was poo pood on here numerous times a few months ago but finally people are beginning to see the light) Nick Powell is part of the problem not the solution He was available for 13 games between the Rotherham and Sheff Utd games when he got injured - AN started him in just 4 of the games - and we gained 11 points from them. I would argue he certainly would have helped over that period of time if he'd played more minutes....... |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 12, 2023 23:49:29 GMT
He wouldn’t have helped, he’s always injured (a fact that was poo pood on here numerous times a few months ago but finally people are beginning to see the light) Nick Powell is part of the problem not the solution He was available for 13 games between the Rotherham and Sheff Utd games when he got injured, AN started him in just 4 of the games and we gained 11 points from them. I would argue he certainly would have helped over that period of time if he'd played more minutes....... Alright statto |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 12, 2023 23:53:50 GMT
He was available for 13 games between the Rotherham and Sheff Utd games when he got injured, AN started him in just 4 of the games and we gained 11 points from them. I would argue he certainly would have helped over that period of time if he'd played more minutes....... Alright statto Sorry I just find stats preferable to unsubstantiated horse shit.......... |
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Post by independent on Feb 13, 2023 0:02:33 GMT
He wouldn’t have helped, he’s always injured (a fact that was poo pood on here numerous times a few months ago but finally people are beginning to see the light) Nick Powell is part of the problem not the solution He was available for 13 games between the Rotherham and Sheff Utd games when he got injured, AN started him in just 4 of the games and we gained 11 points from them. I would argue he certainly would have helped over that period of time if he'd played more minutes....... It certainly seems logical and very likely. Especially when you see that we got 0 points from the 8 games that he didn't start during that period. Aren't Badgers supposed to suffer from poor sight, that might explain it. |
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Post by gawa on Feb 13, 2023 0:08:35 GMT
He wouldn’t have helped, he’s always injured (a fact that was poo pood on here numerous times a few months ago but finally people are beginning to see the light) Nick Powell is part of the problem not the solution He was available for 13 games between the Rotherham and Sheff Utd games when he got injured, AN started him in just 4 of the games and we gained 11 points from them. I would argue he certainly would have helped over that period of time if he'd played more minutes....... How do you get 11 points from 4 games |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 13, 2023 0:09:31 GMT
He was available for 13 games between the Rotherham and Sheff Utd games when he got injured, AN started him in just 4 of the games and we gained 11 points from them. I would argue he certainly would have helped over that period of time if he'd played more minutes....... How do you get 11 points from 4 games 11 points from 13 games........... |
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