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Post by Tosh on Feb 2, 2023 14:28:19 GMT
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 2, 2023 14:35:36 GMT
And so the trial of Mason Greenwood in the Kangaroo Court of the Oatcake begins. Gouranga.  |
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Post by superjw on Feb 2, 2023 14:49:37 GMT
Herein lies the problem of people being named before a conviction
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 2, 2023 14:53:37 GMT
It will certainly follow him around where ever he goes not sure about exactly how noisily. There were still people sitting behind me a few weeks ago going on about Ched Evans being a rapist no matter how convincing the evidence was that he was wrongly convicted. |
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Post by ChepstowStokie on Feb 2, 2023 14:55:30 GMT
Dropped charges does not mean not guilty. I think they have most likely settled out of court
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Post by teenagefanclub on Feb 2, 2023 15:03:25 GMT
Is he on a free transfer? Can he hold the ball up?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 2, 2023 15:07:21 GMT
Unsurprising. Doesn't take much to work out what's happened here.
Cunt will get everything he deserves if he ever managed to find his way onto a football pitch - Pretty unlikely I'd suggest.
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Post by marcofstoke on Feb 2, 2023 15:09:08 GMT
He’s not been cleared of all charges at all, the charges have been dropped which is totally different!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 2, 2023 15:11:31 GMT
Dropped charges does not mean not guilty. I think they have most likely settled out of court They're back together as a couple. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 2, 2023 15:18:24 GMT
Dropped charges does not mean not guilty. I think they have most likely settled out of court I mean it's semantics. The CPS have decided there is no realistic prospect of a conviction so the case has been discontinued. It's akin to being found not guilty as the CPS accept of there was a trial its likely he would be found not guilty. There is nothing 'settled out of Court'. Its not the USA. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 2, 2023 15:18:39 GMT
He’s not been cleared of all charges at all, the charges have been dropped which is totally different! Not really. See above. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 2, 2023 15:20:49 GMT
Be interesting to see what happens here, can't see Man Utd the brand taking him back.
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Post by marcofstoke on Feb 2, 2023 15:22:07 GMT
He’s not been cleared of all charges at all, the charges have been dropped which is totally different! Not really. See above. He has not been cleared of anything, for various reasons they have decided not to proceed, as I said that is completely different. |
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 2, 2023 15:25:48 GMT
Dropped charges does not mean not guilty. I think they have most likely settled out of court It is not possible to settle criminal charges with an out of court settlement. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 2, 2023 15:26:48 GMT
Either way, he's still a c**t.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 2, 2023 15:28:30 GMT
He has not been cleared of anything, for various reasons they have decided not to proceed, as I said that is completely different. That is one problem with the system. There is always the element of doubt when the charges have not been dealt with by a court hearing. However he is entitled to the view that he is not guilty because the CPS have decided there is insufficient evidence to convict him, |
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Post by fca47 on Feb 2, 2023 15:32:23 GMT
Dropped charges does not mean not guilty. I think they have most likely settled out of court It's a criminal case, don't think you can settle out of court. She has probably decided she won't give evidence against him and the case collapsed. |
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Post by marcofstoke on Feb 2, 2023 15:34:25 GMT
He has not been cleared of anything, for various reasons they have decided not to proceed, as I said that is completely different. That is one problem with the system. There is always the element of doubt when the charges have not been dealt with by a court hearing. However he is entitled to the view that he is not guilty because the CPS have decided there is insufficient evidence to convict him, Correct although I very much doubt it will turn out that way |
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Post by TinkerT on Feb 2, 2023 15:35:34 GMT
Sign him up!
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 2, 2023 15:40:01 GMT
It will certainly follow him around where ever he goes not sure about exactly how noisily. There were still people sitting behind me a few weeks ago going on about Ched Evans being a rapist no matter how convincing the evidence was that he was wrongly convicted. When mud is slung some will stick for sure.Then you get the old chestnut "There's no smoke without fire" type comment,which is a horrible comment when your on the wrong side of it. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 2, 2023 15:50:38 GMT
That is one problem with the system. There is always the element of doubt when the charges have not been dealt with by a court hearing. However he is entitled to the view that he is not guilty because the CPS have decided there is insufficient evidence to convict him, Correct although I very much doubt it will turn out that way Surely it's better. He hasn't even had to have a trial as the CPS didn't have sufficient evidence. That is eminently better than being found NG after trial, where there was sufficient evidence to put before a jury |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 15:56:13 GMT
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Post by ohbottom on Feb 2, 2023 16:03:22 GMT
Correct although I very much doubt it will turn out that way Surely it's better. He hasn't even had to have a trial as the CPS didn't have sufficient evidence. That is eminently better than being found NG after trial, where there was sufficient evidence to put before a jury It's not "eminently better" than being found not guilty. It's different to a not guilty verdict as in that case he could not be charged again for the same offence, even if some highly convincing new evidence comes to light at some point in the future. As it stands, he could still be. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 2, 2023 16:15:46 GMT
He’s not been cleared of all charges at all, the charges have been dropped which is totally different! This. Absolutely correct. |
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Post by ChepstowStokie on Feb 2, 2023 16:31:25 GMT
Dropped charges does not mean not guilty. I think they have most likely settled out of court I mean it's semantics. The CPS have decided there is no realistic prospect of a conviction so the case has been discontinued. It's akin to being found not guilty as the CPS accept of there was a trial its likely he would be found not guilty. There is nothing 'settled out of Court'. Its not the USA. I stand corrected. I have watched too many episodes of 'Suits' Is it possible to pay her not to testify or is that illegal? |
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 2, 2023 16:38:25 GMT
Correct although I very much doubt it will turn out that way Surely it's better. He hasn't even had to have a trial as the CPS didn't have sufficient evidence. That is eminently better than being found NG after trial, where there was sufficient evidence to put before a jury Well you say that but look at the reactions now Yours is the sensible reaction but when does that be the main reaction these days. Who knows what will happen next but in the court of public opinion I bet he has been found guilty long since and now has to live with it. Serves him right if he did what he has been accused of but so wrong if he did not. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 2, 2023 16:59:52 GMT
Surely it's better. He hasn't even had to have a trial as the CPS didn't have sufficient evidence. That is eminently better than being found NG after trial, where there was sufficient evidence to put before a jury Well you say that but look at the reactions now Yours is the sensible reaction but when does that be the main reaction these days. Who knows what will happen next but in the court of public opinion I bet he has been found guilty long since and now has to live with it. Serves him right if he did what he has been accused of but so wrong if he did not. Oh come on, let’s call a spade a spade. We all saw the pictures of her after he’d finished with her, we all remember what was said at the time of his arrest. Mason Greenwood is a very rich young man. Although most likely it’ll never be put in print, it’s highly likely his lawyers have transferred shed loads of cash to get certain people to keep silent. Maybe he’ll never face charges in a court of law but that doesn’t stop anyone forming a pretty conclusive point of view, either inside or outside of a kangaroo court. In short, deep down, we all know what happened to that young lady. |
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Post by linslader on Feb 2, 2023 17:00:43 GMT
Dropped charges does not mean not guilty. I think they have most likely settled out of court You can't settle a criminal case out of court. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 2, 2023 17:01:33 GMT
Unsurprising. Doesn't take much to work out what's happened here. Cunt will get everything he deserves if he ever managed to find his way onto a football pitch - Pretty unlikely I'd suggest. He’ll be fine in Saudi or Qatar |
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 2, 2023 17:06:11 GMT
Be interesting to see what happens here, can't see Man Utd the brand taking him back. He’s a phenomenal talent and I would bet they have been waiting for his case to be either won or dropped so they can bring him back into the fold. Yes, he’ll likely face everlasting abuse from the stands but this fella will score more goals, and plenty of them. |
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