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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2023 20:35:58 GMT
I wonder if Holden needs a coach🤔
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 9, 2023 20:38:54 GMT
Has anyone who has already posted on this subject got any valid and factual points to make about his leaving the club i.e. his coaching ability, his influence in and around the players, was his time keeping inappropriate etc. Already some are saying; Glad to see some proactive developments Didn’t see any notable improvements Got no idea whether he’s any good as a coach but I think it was time for this “just in case” I think it will benefit the club His departure is long over due Good move, the stench over the past 4 seasons needs eradicating etc etc The in the know experts speak. FFS What an odd post. What do you expect on a forum? Have you seen much evidence of decent coaching of first team players in the last 4 years then? |
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 9, 2023 20:43:43 GMT
Has anyone who has already posted on this subject got any valid and factual points to make about his leaving the club i.e. his coaching ability, his influence in and around the players, was his time keeping inappropriate etc.  Already some are saying; Glad to see some proactive developments Didn’t see any notable improvements Got no idea whether he’s any good as a coach but I think it was time for this “just in case” I think it will benefit the club His departure is long over due Good move, the stench over the past 4 seasons needs eradicating etc etc The in the know experts speak.  FFS I'm the writer of "Glad ...." Like you I know diddly squat about the ins ands outs of the coaching set-up.. But I do know that the last three or four years of football appear to have little positive impact from our coaching team. |
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Post by onepara on Jan 9, 2023 20:45:21 GMT
Judging how he was seen to coach corners, on the early-season video:- " Right lads, just go where you feel comfortable. I'll blow the whistle when the balls coming in." Very instructive. it's not too soon. Good player for us, but hopeless coach. No idea how to instruct. Neill has had a good look, & doesn't like.
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 9, 2023 20:51:27 GMT
Something isn’t right behind the scenes and who knows if this will make any difference, but every now and again you have to shake things up just to see if anything changes.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 9, 2023 20:52:05 GMT
How on earth do people know whether he's a good coach or not?
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Post by theonlooker on Jan 9, 2023 20:52:35 GMT
It's a difficult one for any of us to assess really as we don't know what goes on behind closed doors - all we can go off is a dodgy set piece video in pre season where anyone would be daft to give away too many secrets and the fact he's been here through all of our appointments. It's not a lot to go on.
That said, our coaching setup needs a complete re-think just as much as the top end of the club, so hopefully something good can come of it.
No ill feeling towards Rory from me.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 9, 2023 20:53:13 GMT
His lad to follow him next. 5 year contract incoming……. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jan 9, 2023 20:58:19 GMT
Hopefully no hard feelings, a great player for us and a genuine good person who cares about the club.
Good luck Rory.
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 9, 2023 21:08:13 GMT
How on earth do people know whether he's a good coach or not? Nobody does. But if the evidence of set plays, basic defending structures and general "nous" have anything to go by ... then somebody isn't doing a brilliant job. For me at the moment something needs a shake up. |
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Post by questionable on Jan 9, 2023 21:08:44 GMT
Failing to see how Delap going out will improve the dross that AN has served up, if he brings in a coach he knows he’ll be from the same mould as himself.
Only caught a snippet what Clarke was saying but was he suggesting about AN’s reputation.
His football can only be described as utter rubbish and devoid of anything positive.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2023 21:17:47 GMT
Has anyone who has already posted on this subject got any valid and factual points to make about his leaving the club i.e. his coaching ability, his influence in and around the players, was his time keeping inappropriate etc. Already some are saying; Glad to see some proactive developments Didn’t see any notable improvements Got no idea whether he’s any good as a coach but I think it was time for this “just in case” I think it will benefit the club His departure is long over due Good move, the stench over the past 4 seasons needs eradicating etc etc The in the know experts speak. FFS Football fans offer their opinion on football forum shocker. Why do you even bother? |
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Post by Billy the kid on Jan 9, 2023 21:17:59 GMT
Lets not throw a decent guy, and club legend under the bus, for baldie. If we see an uptick in performances and results then fine but the jury is still deliberating if AN is ever going to be any better than MON. Three different managers saw it fit to keep Rory, so he can't have been garbage, its not all been shite (first 10 months MON was on par with the best in the league.... With Rory). Maybe time to move on for both parties granted, but we will see if it makes a tap of difference. (I REALLY HOPE IT DOES) and that his replacement is better suited, time will tell.
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Post by wherty on Jan 9, 2023 21:18:34 GMT
I wonder if Holden needs a coach🤔 Funny you should say that. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2023 21:20:14 GMT
Lets not throw a decent guy, and club legend under the bus, for baldie. If we see an uptick in performances and results then fine but the jury is still deliberating if AN is ever going to be any better than MON. Three different managers saw it fit to keep Rory, so he can't have been garbage, its not all been shite (first 10 months MON was on par with the best in the league.... With Rory). Maybe time to move on for both parties granted, but we will see if it makes a tap of difference. (I REALLY HOPE IT DOES) and that his replacement is better suited, time will tell. Those 3 managers were all pretty shit though  I love Rory but there's no evidence bar him being a legend to stay. I wish him good luck and hope he has no hard feelings about it all because that would be genuinely sad. |
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Post by wuzza on Jan 9, 2023 21:23:07 GMT
Well there’s only so many of these sort of sacrifices / changes that can be made and then responsibility will sit squarely on one set of shoulders.
As per normal we are backing a manager to the absolute hilt - let’s hope he can justify it.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jan 9, 2023 21:29:07 GMT
Lets not throw a decent guy, and club legend under the bus, for baldie. If we see an uptick in performances and results then fine but the jury is still deliberating if AN is ever going to be any better than MON. Three different managers saw it fit to keep Rory, so he can't have been garbage, its not all been shite (first 10 months MON was on par with the best in the league.... With Rory). Maybe time to move on for both parties granted, but we will see if it makes a tap of difference. (I REALLY HOPE IT DOES) and that his replacement is better suited, time will tell. Those 3 managers were all pretty shit though I love Rory but there's no evidence bar him being a legend to stay. I wish him good luck and hope he has no hard feelings about it all because that would be genuinely sad. In the main I agree!, but the first part of MON was quite decent, almost enjoyable, and PPG were brilliant. Also I moved to Notts a month or so before we erm, well dicked them and knocked them out of the playoffs, that was a sweet moment (short lived as per). |
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Post by onepara on Jan 9, 2023 21:30:34 GMT
It's too much of an 'Old-boys' club. That's one of the problems. You can only have so many old players at a club, in non-playing positions.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2023 21:43:47 GMT
Those 3 managers were all pretty shit though I love Rory but there's no evidence bar him being a legend to stay. I wish him good luck and hope he has no hard feelings about it all because that would be genuinely sad. In the main I agree!, but the first part of MON was quite decent, almost enjoyable, and PPG were brilliant. Also I moved to Notts a month or so before we erm, well dicked them and knocked them out of the playoffs, that was a sweet moment (short lived as per). It was but the majority of his time here I thought was poor and tbh I can't excuse him for shitting himself from that good football to the dirge he served up. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 9, 2023 21:54:09 GMT
Has anyone who has already posted on this subject got any valid and factual points to make about his leaving the club i.e. his coaching ability, his influence in and around the players, was his time keeping inappropriate etc. Already some are saying; Glad to see some proactive developments Didn’t see any notable improvements Got no idea whether he’s any good as a coach but I think it was time for this “just in case” I think it will benefit the club His departure is long over due Good move, the stench over the past 4 seasons needs eradicating etc etc The in the know experts speak. FFS What an odd post. What do you expect on a forum? Have you seen much evidence of decent coaching of first team players in the last 4 years then? Touched a few “expert” nerves then. Brown, Souttar, Collins, Campbell (pre-injury) et al and don’t let’s forget up and coming Macari, Coates and Tezgel…..never been coached |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 9, 2023 21:55:27 GMT
Lets not throw a decent guy, and club legend under the bus, for baldie. If we see an uptick in performances and results then fine but the jury is still deliberating if AN is ever going to be any better than MON. Three different managers saw it fit to keep Rory, so he can't have been garbage, its not all been shite (first 10 months MON was on par with the best in the league.... With Rory). Maybe time to move on for both parties granted, but we will see if it makes a tap of difference. (I REALLY HOPE IT DOES) and that his replacement is better suited, time will tell. Those 3 managers were all pretty shit though I love Rory but there's no evidence bar him being a legend to stay. I wish him good luck and hope he has no hard feelings about it all because that would be genuinely sad. There’s also no evidence why he should go |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 9, 2023 21:57:12 GMT
Has anyone who has already posted on this subject got any valid and factual points to make about his leaving the club i.e. his coaching ability, his influence in and around the players, was his time keeping inappropriate etc. Already some are saying; Glad to see some proactive developments Didn’t see any notable improvements Got no idea whether he’s any good as a coach but I think it was time for this “just in case” I think it will benefit the club His departure is long over due Good move, the stench over the past 4 seasons needs eradicating etc etc The in the know experts speak. FFS Football fans offer their opinion on football forum shocker. Why do you even bother? Are those quotes opinions and based on what? |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 9, 2023 21:57:45 GMT
His lad to follow him next. I thought the same to be honest but it's only a thought, not based on anything. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2023 21:58:46 GMT
Those 3 managers were all pretty shit though I love Rory but there's no evidence bar him being a legend to stay. I wish him good luck and hope he has no hard feelings about it all because that would be genuinely sad. There’s also no evidence why he should go There's 4 years of it. It may be harsh but on the face of it I don't think he can have any complaints. |
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Post by questionable on Jan 9, 2023 21:59:19 GMT
Those 3 managers were all pretty shit though I love Rory but there's no evidence bar him being a legend to stay. I wish him good luck and hope he has no hard feelings about it all because that would be genuinely sad. There’s also no evidence why he should go Truth be told I’m not bothered who leaves, clubs rotten throughout. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 9, 2023 21:59:24 GMT
Good. As much as fans love him he’s been nothing short of rubbish as coach. Let’s move the club forward and good to see the owners backing the managers apparent decision “Nothing short of rubbish as a coach”. Please enlighten us all with your in-depth knowledge and experience. |
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 9, 2023 22:00:17 GMT
Good luck Rory!
Sad to see him go, but ffs we need SOME kind of refresh. He probably does too, when you think about it.
You can't read too much into this though - here in the US, NFL franchises rebuild coaching staffs like this all the time, so I'm used to seeing it.
It's not always about personality-clashes or disagreement.
Something's been amiss in that coaching staff anyway, given the lack of fundamentals exhibited on-pitch and when it became obvious that our conditioning was sub-par.
Looks like we ditched the team doctor as well? Interesting.
Not saying that this can be blamed on Rory though. Sounds like AN has someone else in mind that he's worked well with before.
Managers are prone to doing things like that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 9, 2023 22:24:32 GMT
Hope he finds something decent but a clear out should have happened some time ago really.
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2023 22:25:04 GMT
Has he been sacked?
If so who by, the present manager?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 9, 2023 22:26:56 GMT
Those 3 managers were all pretty shit though I love Rory but there's no evidence bar him being a legend to stay. I wish him good luck and hope he has no hard feelings about it all because that would be genuinely sad. There’s also no evidence why he should go None really but it's hard to say we've been well coached during the last few years. Delap would have played a part in that. Alex Neil wants his own people around him. It's to be expected. Good luck to him. |
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