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Post by gingerninja on Oct 29, 2022 22:01:12 GMT
It's all gone quiet on him joining from West Ham to be our technical director?
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 29, 2022 22:04:59 GMT
Good. I hope it doesn't happen. Under no circumstances should a manager have a say in who the club appoint as a Technical Director and only a ridiculously poorly run club would allow a manager to bring in his own choice.
The first team manager should be allowed the opportunity to work for a football club and the Technical staff already in situ.
At most, they should be allowed to bring in their own assistant and a coach.
....and I couldn't give a shit how good he is.
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Post by Gods on Oct 29, 2022 22:12:49 GMT
It's this bloke. Seems he was, or still is (?), the Academy manager at West Ham. To be honest I doubt whether he joins us or not would make a jot bit of difference to anything.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 7, 2022 14:10:14 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 7, 2022 14:10:17 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 7, 2022 14:11:08 GMT
Knowing us, we’ve gone and hired the singer Ricky Martin. Livin La Vida Loca indeed.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 7, 2022 14:11:32 GMT
I couldn’t find the thread🤣🤣
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 7, 2022 14:12:11 GMT
Forgive my ignorance but what’s a technical director?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 7, 2022 14:13:24 GMT
Forgive my ignorance but what’s a technical director? "The modern technical director may be tasked with any number of ancillary duties, including responsibility for and the overseeing of the club's playing philosophy, the academy, the training ground, player contracts and the recruitment of both players and coaching staff."
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Post by jeycov on Nov 7, 2022 14:14:08 GMT
Knowing us, we’ve gone and hired the singer Ricky Martin. Livin La Vida Loca indeed. = the crazy life 😳😳
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 7, 2022 14:15:01 GMT
I couldn’t find the thread🤣🤣 It's not much of one in fairness!!!
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 7, 2022 14:16:03 GMT
Forgive my ignorance but what’s a technical director? "The modern technical director may be tasked with any number of ancillary duties, including responsibility for and the overseeing of the club's playing philosophy, the academy, the training ground, player contracts and the recruitment of both players and coaching staff." AKA scapegoat?
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 7, 2022 14:21:05 GMT
I take it he sits above Cousins in the pecking order? What madness is this? Alex Neil's man sitting above Michael O'Neill's man in the corporate structure.
It should be a Stoke appointment sitting above another Stoke appointment and both of them answerable to the process.
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 7, 2022 14:22:29 GMT
So Ricky Martin was at Norwich between 2014-2017 before they got rid and turned to Stuart Webber and his model, which has been nothing short of a roaring success. Look at the managers appointed in their times at the club......FFS Dean Smith 15 Nov, 2021 Present Daniel Farke 25 May, 2017 06 Nov, 2021 Alan Irvine 10 Mar, 2017 25 May, 2017 Alex Neil 09 Jan, 2015 10 Mar, 2017 Mike Phelan 05 Jan, 2015 09 Jan, 2015 Neil Adams 06 Apr, 2014 05 Jan, 2015 Only at fucking Stoke do they appoint a technical director who has obviously been chosen by the manager, it's fucking backwards this club
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Post by Gods on Nov 7, 2022 14:23:59 GMT
Problem will come when AN departs no self respecting new manager will sign up with this highly renumerated bloke hanging around in a slim fit suit wearing out the carpets!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 7, 2022 14:24:17 GMT
I take it he sits above Cousins in the pecking order? What madness is this? Alex Neil's man sitting above Michael O'Neill's man in the corporate structure. It should be a Stoke appointment sitting above another Stoke appointment and both of them answerable to the process. What is Cousins actual job title these days?
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 7, 2022 14:24:54 GMT
I take it he sits above Cousins in the pecking order? What madness is this? Alex Neil's man sitting above Michael O'Neill's man in the corporate structure. It should be a Stoke appointment sitting above another Stoke appointment and both of them answerable to the process. What is Cousins actually job title these days? He is expected to have a wide-ranging role at Stoke, where Andy Cousins was retitled as head of football operations in January. Cousins, well thought of inside the club, has stayed beyond the exit of Michael O'Neill and now could shift to a role more tightly focused on recruitment.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 7, 2022 14:26:43 GMT
What is Cousins actually job title these days? He is expected to have a wide-ranging role at Stoke, where Andy Cousins was retitled as head of football operations in January. Cousins, well thought of inside the club, has stayed beyond the exit of Michael O'Neill and now could shift to a role more tightly focused on recruitment. How utterly confusing. I'd expect to see the announcement that he's leaving the club soon.........
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Post by LGH87 on Nov 7, 2022 14:31:12 GMT
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Post by wherty on Nov 7, 2022 14:51:34 GMT
So Ricky Martin was at Norwich between 2014-2017 before they got rid and turned to Stuart Webber and his model, which has been nothing short of a roaring success. Look at the managers appointed in their times at the club......FFS Dean Smith 15 Nov, 2021 Present Daniel Farke 25 May, 2017 06 Nov, 2021 Alan Irvine 10 Mar, 2017 25 May, 2017 Alex Neil 09 Jan, 2015 10 Mar, 2017 Mike Phelan 05 Jan, 2015 09 Jan, 2015 Neil Adams 06 Apr, 2014 05 Jan, 2015 Only at fucking Stoke do they appoint a technical director who has obviously been chosen by the manager, it's fucking backwards this club Didn't he get promoted whilst at Norwich with Alex Neil?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 7, 2022 14:54:19 GMT
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Post by independent on Nov 7, 2022 14:55:03 GMT
He is more or less DoF. I am on record as saying that people who can't select a good manager are unlikely to be good at picking a DoF. Interesting to see how this works out. Some people, I'm sure, will be thrilled to see the club adopting a modern club structure that will undoubtedly contribute hugely to our club's future success.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 7, 2022 14:57:07 GMT
Knowing us, we’ve gone and hired the singer Ricky Martin. Livin La Vida Loca indeed. No chance, he's foreign!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2022 15:09:35 GMT
Same mistake, different day.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 7, 2022 15:24:24 GMT
As was said when this was touted shortly after Neil joined, letting your coach effectively pick the 'technical director' seems less than ideal, and arse about face.
It'll be interesting to flesh out what his role is - the technical staff seem to have had a revolving door since Carto left.
Chapple was here for about 5 minutes, Aldo lasted about a season, and we'll see how much longer MON's mate Cousins lasts.
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 7, 2022 15:27:05 GMT
We have got to hope this will be a fresh start and prove to be a profitable alliance. More than ever we now need to get our recruitment right, let's see how it pans out before writing it off from the word go..I think Neil quoted at least twice at the weekend how Birmingham had got their summer recruitment spot on, which would suggest the squad he inherited wasn't.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 7, 2022 15:28:36 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 7, 2022 15:57:39 GMT
Now given the manager is few games form the sack none survives 7 defeats in 8 etc. this is madness and where does it else cousins just feels like we are reducing our options when 4 games from now we may need as many as we can get
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 7, 2022 16:00:34 GMT
Now given the manager is few games form the sack none survives 7 defeats in 8 etc. this is madness and where does it else cousins just feels like we are reducing our options when 4 games from now we may need as many as we can get Few games from the sack? He’s been here 5 fucking minutes man.
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Post by Gods on Nov 7, 2022 16:06:23 GMT
Academy Manager to Technical Director.
He seems to have missed out at least 2 stages in his meteoric career progression!
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