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Post by werrington on Sept 23, 2022 20:45:15 GMT
We move on ….Monday night
Wholesale changes for the dead rubbed me thinks
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Post by thevoid on Sept 23, 2022 20:48:31 GMT
Heavy defeat to force the FA's hand please.
Get him gone 👍
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Post by werrington on Sept 23, 2022 20:51:19 GMT
Heavy defeat to force the FA's hand please. Get him gone 👍 They won’t sack him now with one more match before the World Cup mate I reckon he will walk away after it no matter the outcome
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 23, 2022 20:56:01 GMT
We move on ….Monday night Wholesale changes for the dead rubbed me thinks Last game before the World Cup can he afford to? I’d certainly revert to a back four: Pope Alexander-Arnold Stones Tomori Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Mount Grealish Kane
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Post by werrington on Sept 23, 2022 20:57:30 GMT
We move on ….Monday night Wholesale changes for the dead rubbed me thinks Last game before the World Cup can he afford to? I’d certainly revert to a back four: Pope Alexander-Arnold Stones Tomori Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Mount Grealish Kane Foden and Mount constantly flatter to deceive mate and go under the radar
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 23, 2022 20:58:06 GMT
We move on ….Monday night Wholesale changes for the dead rubbed me thinks Last game before the World Cup can he afford to? I’d certainly revert to a back four: Pope Alexander-Arnold Stones Tomori Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Mount Grealish Kane Might as well give Toney a run out in the game now instead/or with Kane
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 23, 2022 20:58:37 GMT
Last game before the World Cup can he afford to? I’d certainly revert to a back four: Pope Alexander-Arnold Stones Tomori Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Mount Grealish Kane Foden and Mount constantly flatterr to deceive mate and go under the radar Don’t disagree, Mount is such a beige footballer at times…….
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 23, 2022 20:59:30 GMT
Last game before the World Cup can he afford to? I’d certainly revert to a back four: Pope Alexander-Arnold Stones Tomori Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Mount Grealish Kane Might as well give Toney a run out in the game now instead/or with Kane Abraham will get a run out first though surely?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2022 21:00:38 GMT
Wouldn’t sacking him now be a great time to do it so we don’t waste a World Cup?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 23, 2022 21:04:27 GMT
Might as well give Toney a run out in the game now instead/or with Kane Abraham will get a run out first though surely? Maybe but who knows with the Master tactician
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2022 21:06:26 GMT
We move on ….Monday night Wholesale changes for the dead rubbed me thinks Last game before the World Cup can he afford to? I’d certainly revert to a back four: Pope Alexander-Arnold Stones Tomori Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Mount Grealish Kane Grealish is out now after his booking for dissent I think? Won't be long before he's out the door at Man City either, I'd be surprised if Grealish starts next season as a Man City player.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 23, 2022 21:07:02 GMT
Wouldn’t sacking him now be a great time to do it so we don’t waste a World Cup? It's a view. But it would be very radical and there's 0 chance of it happening so not a great deal of point in wishing for it
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 23, 2022 21:09:05 GMT
We move on ….Monday night Wholesale changes for the dead rubbed me thinks Last game before the World Cup can he afford to? I’d certainly revert to a back four: Pope Alexander-Arnold Stones Tomori Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Mount Grealish Kane TAA in a back 4 for England is terrifying. Stick James there and give Saka a go on the right instead of Grealish (who is suspended) and we're not to far off.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2022 22:26:38 GMT
Ramsdale in for Pope. I’m all for keepers being able to make saves first and foremost but Popes distribution was woeful tonight. Slow, ponderous and booted it straight out on a fair few occasions.
Although passing it short to Maguire or a throw to Italy, choices choices…
Trippier in as well for Saka - move James to the other side. Set pieces are a big part of our game and if we can’t put a decent ball in it takes a big chunk of our attacking threat out. He’s done enough for Newcastle this season to get a look in.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 23, 2022 22:50:05 GMT
Wouldn’t sacking him now be a great time to do it so we don’t waste a World Cup? It's a view. But it would be very radical and there's 0 chance of it happening so not a great deal of point in wishing for it Agreed. "Radical" and the English FA aren't exactly regular bedfellows are they.
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Post by BuzzB on Sept 23, 2022 22:58:50 GMT
I would have Ramsdale in too, Walker looks out of sorts at both club and country, Trippier in, Stones Maguire (reluctantly, who else?) Chilwell, Rice Bellingham Saka, Kane Toney Bowen in a 4-3-3.
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Post by Gods on Sept 23, 2022 23:01:34 GMT
No way will he be sacked, he's England's most successful manager since Alf Ramsey caught a break in blighty back in 1966.
I say that as someone old enough to remember the England team not even qualifying for a World Cup for 12 of my formative years from 1970 to 1982.
Back then you'd have killed for the World Cup semi-final and Euros final that Soutgate has delivered.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 23, 2022 23:04:08 GMT
Never been less interested in watching an England vs Germany game.
Southgate out.
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Post by stokeranger on Sept 24, 2022 13:58:10 GMT
Never been less interested in watching an England vs Germany game. Southgate out. More Interested in watching the vale then England…
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Post by peterpan1 on Sept 24, 2022 17:02:21 GMT
Another match closer to getting him sacked hopefully. Spineless loser.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 24, 2022 19:20:00 GMT
These fuckers will murder us. The Germans don’t let teams off like the Italians.
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Post by rivival on Sept 24, 2022 20:53:01 GMT
Wouldn’t sacking him now be a great time to do it so we don’t waste a World Cup? Sacking him at any time would be great tbh
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 24, 2022 21:16:49 GMT
No way will he be sacked, he's England's most successful manager since Alf Ramsey caught a break in blighty back in 1966. I say that as someone old enough to remember the England team not even qualifying for a World Cup for 12 of my formative years from 1970 to 1982. Back then you'd have killed for the World Cup semi-final and Euros final that Soutgate has delivered. England fans love to rewrite history though mate. Apparently now we should have won the World Cup easily given our run and done the same at the Euros given we were at home for most of it. So semi-final and final placings have been largely deemed failures. Be careful what you wish for. He's statistically the second best manager in our history so chances are the next one is going to be a lot worse... How did we do in 2016 again before he arrived? We lost to Iceland. That's right, f*cking ICELAND.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 24, 2022 21:18:35 GMT
No way will he be sacked, he's England's most successful manager since Alf Ramsey caught a break in blighty back in 1966. I say that as someone old enough to remember the England team not even qualifying for a World Cup for 12 of my formative years from 1970 to 1982. Back then you'd have killed for the World Cup semi-final and Euros final that Soutgate has delivered. England fans love to rewrite history though mate. Apparently now we should have won the World Cup easily given our run and done the same at the Euros given we were at home for most of it. So semi-final and final placings have been largely deemed failures. Be careful what you wish for. He's statistically the second best manager in our history so chances are the next one is going to be a lot worse... How did we do in 2016 again before he arrived? We lost to Iceland. That's right, f*cking ICELAND. And at the moment we’d lose again. A club manager would be on the brink
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 24, 2022 21:18:51 GMT
It's my view that people who genuinely want Southgate out now are those who opposed his appointment in the first place, have never liked him and have been looking for any opportunity possible to stick the knife in, but haven't managed to find one in FIVE YEARS because they'd seem like idiots for even suggesting it because he's done so well.
Instead they've done it when we lose a few of what they themselves deem to be 'fucking meaningless' friendlies.
Not that 'meaningless' then are they? You can't have it both ways.
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Post by werrington on Sept 24, 2022 21:20:52 GMT
It's my view that people who genuinely want Southgate out now are those who opposed his appointment in the first place, have never liked him and have been looking for any opportunity possible to stick the knife in, but haven't managed to find one in FIVE YEARS because they'd seem like idiots for even suggesting it because he's done so well. Instead they've done it when we lose a few of what they themselves deem to be 'fucking meaningless' friendlies. Not that 'meaningless' then are they? You can't have it both ways. What a load of bollocks
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 24, 2022 21:21:55 GMT
England fans love to rewrite history though mate. Apparently now we should have won the World Cup easily given our run and done the same at the Euros given we were at home for most of it. So semi-final and final placings have been largely deemed failures. Be careful what you wish for. He's statistically the second best manager in our history so chances are the next one is going to be a lot worse... How did we do in 2016 again before he arrived? We lost to Iceland. That's right, f*cking ICELAND. And at the moment we’d lose again. A club manager would be on the brink I think we will win all 3 group games even now. What happens after that is a lottery. Most international sides win 2/3rds of their games, whether it be England or whoever. Remember Spain 2010? That fantastic, talented side? So many great players. They won 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 1-0.
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Post by Gods on Sept 24, 2022 21:22:40 GMT
It's my view that people who genuinely want Southgate out now are those who opposed his appointment in the first place, have never liked him and have been looking for any opportunity possible to stick the knife in, but haven't managed to find one in FIVE YEARS because they'd seem like idiots for even suggesting it because he's done so well. Instead they've done it when we lose a few of what they themselves deem to be 'fucking meaningless' friendlies. Not that 'meaningless' then are they? You can't have it both ways. Exactly. Don't expect anyone to admit it though.
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Post by Gods on Sept 24, 2022 21:27:22 GMT
No way will he be sacked, he's England's most successful manager since Alf Ramsey caught a break in blighty back in 1966. I say that as someone old enough to remember the England team not even qualifying for a World Cup for 12 of my formative years from 1970 to 1982. Back then you'd have killed for the World Cup semi-final and Euros final that Soutgate has delivered. England fans love to rewrite history though mate. Apparently now we should have won the World Cup easily given our run and done the same at the Euros given we were at home for most of it. So semi-final and final placings have been largely deemed failures. Be careful what you wish for. He's statistically the second best manager in our history so chances are the next one is going to be a lot worse... How did we do in 2016 again before he arrived? We lost to Iceland. That's right, f*cking ICELAND. Yep, all you can do is get in the semi-finals and finals and the rest is lap of the gods stuff. A decision here, a post there...Football is the chanciest sport there is and this is true in spades for cup competitions.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 24, 2022 21:31:21 GMT
It's my view that people who genuinely want Southgate out now are those who opposed his appointment in the first place, have never liked him and have been looking for any opportunity possible to stick the knife in, but haven't managed to find one in FIVE YEARS because they'd seem like idiots for even suggesting it because he's done so well. Instead they've done it when we lose a few of what they themselves deem to be 'fucking meaningless' friendlies. Not that 'meaningless' then are they? You can't have it both ways. Exactly. Don't expect anyone to admit it though. They're not true England fans, deep down they're club over country and are wanting us to fail to justify their assessment that Southgate isn't qualified. They're more bothered about being proven right than actually getting behind the side. You see the players, they absolutely love him. Love playing for England, going to St. George's Park, the rest of it. He has instilled that into the squad. I'm not saying it can't be replicated but history tells us it won't be. Who took over after Alf Ramsey? And Bobby Robson? Were they successful? I genuinely wasn't old enough but I'm pretty sure the answer is 'No'.
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