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Post by onemanbang on Feb 12, 2022 17:29:09 GMT
Played well the last couple of games, Just tarnished it with 10 seconds of stupidity.
I still stand by the fact that we miss him when he isn't in the team. Take Allen out and who replaces him? Clucas....no thanks, Thomson....I don't mind him but he isn't quite there.
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Post by klingon on Feb 12, 2022 17:29:45 GMT
He had no need to dive in like that. Yet " Mr Experience We Are So Lucky To Have Him " does it again. Then again we didn't help ourselves by sloppily giving the ball away and we failed to do what we had managed pretty well against 11 men..keep possession. Bloody frustrating. Am I in an alternative universe? He didn’t “dive in”, he was pressurising a player running into our box. Some on here would have slaughtered him if he hadn’t. I can hear “Allen didn’t even make a challenge” if he’d have continued unopposed. The simple truth is, that at this moment in time, with these players, with this formation, Stoke are a better team having Allen in the starting eleven than without. Find another bandwagon to jump on - can I suggest “What is the point of Clucas?”. When you clamber onto it, can you shove up a bit to make some room for me?
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 12, 2022 17:30:20 GMT
Just come out of the ground, everyone saying how well he played Just come on here and everyone saying he's wank He was playing quite well but that was a horrible and very costly error of judgement.
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Post by ruts66 on Feb 12, 2022 17:37:31 GMT
It was very poor judgment from Allen (and not the first time he’s lunged in) but if he’d let the fella stride through and slot it in the corner we’d be screaming blue murder as well. He played okay apart from that and looks far better generally with Baker’s added quality…
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 12, 2022 17:38:55 GMT
Poor today. Sadly. Couldn't carry so many and thus we didn't win.
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Post by milky on Feb 12, 2022 17:39:47 GMT
He had no need to dive in like that. Yet " Mr Experience We Are So Lucky To Have Him " does it again. Then again we didn't help ourselves by sloppily giving the ball away and we failed to do what we had managed pretty well against 11 men..keep possession. Bloody frustrating. Am I in an alternative universe? He didn’t “dive in”, he was pressurising a player running into our box. Some on here would have slaughtered him if he hadn’t. I can hear “Allen didn’t even make a challenge” if he’d have continued unopposed. The simple truth is, that at this moment in time, with these players, with this formation, Stoke are a better team having Allen in the starting eleven than without. Find another bandwagon to jump on - can I suggest “What is the point of Clucas?”. When you clamber onto it, can you shove up a bit to make some room for me? He did indeed dive in and although I'd like to see it again there were 2 defenders who could have dealt with the situation. It's no bandwagon, he has been decent recently ,especially playing with Baker but he doesn't need to do it ,it was reckless and not for the first time either.
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Post by lordb on Feb 12, 2022 17:39:55 GMT
Just come out of the ground, everyone saying how well he played Just come on here and everyone saying he's wank He was playing quite well but that was a horrible and very costly error of judgement. To be fair it was at the other end, will accept those watching at home had the better view
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Post by everyoneneedsawhelan on Feb 12, 2022 17:40:06 GMT
On reflection it’s a bad challenge because of what it lead to, but IF Garner puts the ball in Row Z then nobody is talking about it. Joe has his good and bad moments and has had more good than bad in recent games.
Completely understand the frustrations but we need to really get behind him, especially if we are to go anywhere with him as captain.
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Post by Ron on Feb 12, 2022 17:44:29 GMT
Allen was excellent today other than that tackle… but it’s not the 1st time he’s done it
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Post by onionman on Feb 12, 2022 17:49:24 GMT
He did play ok for the most part today but if ever a single moment summed up Joe Allen’s loser mentality it was that stupid foul. It’s like he just can’t handle the idea of being part of a winning Stoke team.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 12, 2022 17:52:34 GMT
He was ok today.
But how many times does he do that?
Far too many.
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Post by greenhoff on Feb 12, 2022 17:54:42 GMT
I really hope we let Allen go at the end of the season. Its time IMO. Hes done this far too many times.
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Post by klingon on Feb 12, 2022 17:54:44 GMT
He did play ok for the most part today but if ever a single moment summed up Joe Allen’s loser mentality it was that stupid foul. It’s like he just can’t handle the idea of being part of a winning Stoke team. For once, I will let brevity come to my aid. Bollocks…..
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 12, 2022 17:57:20 GMT
He should have scored as well. Open goal, headed over from 3 yards out
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 12, 2022 18:04:17 GMT
The must be players out there better than Allen and on less wages.
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Post by klingon on Feb 12, 2022 18:29:40 GMT
He should have scored as well. Open goal, headed over from 3 yards out Bound to get a bite soon, Mr. Johnno.
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Post by sticky on Feb 12, 2022 18:49:04 GMT
I’m a big critic of Allen but thought he played well today.. still want him off the wage bill though
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 12, 2022 18:57:17 GMT
I've always felt Allen was "support player". He reflects the players around ; if they play well he does, if they play poorly ditto. He is prone to be rash though not only tackling but wayward passes.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 12, 2022 19:07:10 GMT
I thought the mistake at the end overshadowed a reasonable performance.
The problem is that Bakers so good he makes our other CM's look very average (which they are).
Joe's been a loyal servant but he needs to go at the end of the season both for him and us. We need a younger CM coming in with ability.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 12, 2022 19:14:26 GMT
I like Allen and he's a good pro, but he really needs to move on at the end of the season. We all know that we will offer him a new contract 😏
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Post by sticky on Feb 12, 2022 19:23:08 GMT
I thought the mistake at the end overshadowed a reasonable performance. The problem is that Bakers so good he makes our other CM's look very average (which they are). Joe's been a loyal servant but he needs to go at the end of the season both for him and us. We need a younger CM coming in with ability. id disagree with that cobham (and your a poster that speaks sense), I think on the whole, his stoke career is a 6/10.. and that reflects the fact nobody’s come in for him..
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 12, 2022 19:27:05 GMT
Joe Allen and Lewis Baker are forming a very good partnership for me and both of them played very well today. Did Joe need to tackle the player at the end or did he get the ball also will be debated but for me they have both performed well since playing together and long may it continue
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Post by kustokie on Feb 12, 2022 19:32:56 GMT
The biggest difference have been the signing of Baker and the return of Powell, which means Clucas can’t get a look in and we control the midfield. Allen contributes very little when those two are on the pitch, but it doesn’t matter much at this level. Once one of them goes off Allen has has to carry a bigger share of the load and we’re much less effective. The best midfield in a 4-3-3 is Powell, Baker and Vrancic (when fit).
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Post by themistocles on Feb 12, 2022 19:33:02 GMT
Joe Allen and Lewis Baker are forming a very good partnership for me and both of them played very well today. Did Joe need to tackle the player at the end or did he get the ball also will be debated but for me they have both performed well since playing together and long may it continue He's a player who costs us double figure points every season. We lost 2 points today because Joe Allen did what typical Joe Allen does. Those 2 points lost today could be the difference in getting into the play offs
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 12, 2022 19:35:39 GMT
Joe Allen and Lewis Baker are forming a very good partnership for me and both of them played very well today. Did Joe need to tackle the player at the end or did he get the ball also will be debated but for me they have both performed well since playing together and long may it continue He's a player who costs us double figure points every season. We lost 2 points today because Joe Allen did what typical Joe Allen does. Those 2 points lost today could be the difference in getting into the play offs Thats your opinion which I don’t share and obviously most managers don’t either
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Post by kustokie on Feb 12, 2022 19:35:44 GMT
I like Allen and he's a good pro, but he really needs to move on at the end of the season. We all know that we will offer him a new contract 😏 I like him too and he is a model professional, just not a very good player.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 12, 2022 20:44:18 GMT
Firmly believe he will be here next year on less money and a three year deal
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 12, 2022 20:50:22 GMT
I thought the mistake at the end overshadowed a reasonable performance. The problem is that Bakers so good he makes our other CM's look very average (which they are). Joe's been a loyal servant but he needs to go at the end of the season both for him and us. We need a younger CM coming in with ability. id disagree with that cobham (and your a poster that speaks sense), I think on the whole, his stoke career is a 6/10.. and that reflects the fact nobody’s come in for him.. When I say good servant I mean he’s a good pro who conducts himself well. I’d say he’s a 6 but he’s no worse than the other CMs we have bar Baker.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 12, 2022 21:29:27 GMT
He should have scored as well. Open goal, headed over from 3 yards out What?…..awful comment
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 12, 2022 21:38:27 GMT
He should have scored as well. Open goal, headed over from 3 yards out What?…..awful comment
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