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Post by shakermaker on Nov 10, 2021 9:55:59 GMT
Right now the dust has settled my opinion on the sacking of Deano , personally I think he had enough credit in the bank to be given longer but I feel the board have panicked without looking at the bigger picture,once our injuries clear up we'll be fine and a couple of wins and all would of been well in B6. I feel the major problem was the coaching staff, bringing in Shakespeare seemed to unsettle the rest,JT left closely followed by O'Kelly who'd been Dean's right hand man going back to Walsall another mistake in my opinion was getting that McFee in the set piece coach I'm struggling to see what he brings to the table as our defending from set pieces is as bad as I can remember ! Who next ? Well it's looking like Gerrard not sure about this at all as anyone with one ounce of managerial ability could get Rangers or Celtic in the top two in the Sunday Pub League and therefore guarantee Europe,why hasenhutal(crap spelling) is being mentioned god only knows, Martinez didn't pull any trees up at Everton,I actually like Potter but I don't think he'd come as he's worked hard to turn Brighton around,i also wouldn't mind Fauve the ex BVB coach but would he come ? So to sum up I ain't got a clue who's gonna get it Dean Smith gave us some great memories and I for one will always be grateful for what he did for The Villa,a proper Villa man through and through UTV Something to be mindful of with Gerrard is that if he is successful for Villa, he will eventually leave you to join Liverpool. It is his ultimate calling. That's all well and good, but Villa shouldn't be a stepping stone if your ambitions are to be challenging for Top 4 some day. You need a manager for the long term. I actually think Potter could be tempted away to join Villa. It depends whether he feels Brighton have enough in the tank to be challenging Top 6 for the rest of the season, or whether he feels he can get Villa there in a year or so. Smith is a very good manager... but he never struck me as coming across as a 'Premier League manager'. Not sure if that's because he just comes across as the sort of bloke you'd get talking to down the pub or what.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 10, 2021 10:04:49 GMT
Is Gerrard really an upgrade?
Favre or Fonseca would be, I think. Hassenhuttl probably would just about.
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Post by pieofpeter on Nov 10, 2021 12:10:24 GMT
Is Gerrard really an upgrade? Favre or Fonseca would be, I think. Hassenhuttl probably would just about. Rangers fan I know says Gerrard will get found out in the prem. Favre would at least be very entertaining a good manager that had lost his way at BVB. Thought Smith was good manager for Villa with enough in the bank but had taken them as far as he could.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2021 13:52:21 GMT
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Post by Roger Everyone on Nov 10, 2021 14:07:33 GMT
Surprised at Gerrard going there if he does. Not perhaps the big name villa fans wanted, will be a big test for Gerrard.
Villa make odd appointments don't they.
Dr Jozef Venglos
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Post by callas12 on Nov 10, 2021 14:31:44 GMT
My Bro's a Villa fan and quite excited about Gerrard potentially being their new manager. They're more concerned about getting an unheard of foreign coach again in the mold of Remi Garde who totally destroyed Villa.
Gerrard will be well very connected in the game, is definitely very well respected (something Dean Smith couldn't quite boast) & will have the funds to spend at will. My bro was gutted Dean Smith got sacked but definitely behind a Gerrard appointment.
Villa are quite similar to Rangers in a number of areas also. Similar style original but modernised large capacity stadiums, large expectant fan base, decorated history, coming back from some years of turmoil.
Could actually prove to be a good mix for both Gerrard and AVFC going forward.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 10, 2021 14:39:52 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 10, 2021 14:49:09 GMT
My Bro's a Villa fan and quite excited about Gerrard potentially being their new manager. They're more concerned about getting an unheard of foreign coach again in the mold of Remi Garde who totally destroyed Villa. Gerrard will be well very connected in the game, is definitely very well respected (something Dean Smith couldn't quite boast) & will have the funds to spend at will. My bro was gutted Dean Smith got sacked but definitely behind a Gerrard appointment. Villa are quite similar to Rangers in a number of areas also. Similar style original but modernised large capacity stadiums, large expectant fan base, decorated history, coming back from some years of turmoil. Could actually prove to be a good mix for both Gerrard and AVFC going forward. Huge punt on Gerrard though. He's well-respected in the game mainly based on his playing career, though he's done pretty well at Rangers so far. Mental to think that Garde not being great would put them off another manager from literally any other country in the world.
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Post by callas12 on Nov 10, 2021 16:51:26 GMT
My Bro's a Villa fan and quite excited about Gerrard potentially being their new manager. They're more concerned about getting an unheard of foreign coach again in the mold of Remi Garde who totally destroyed Villa. Gerrard will be well very connected in the game, is definitely very well respected (something Dean Smith couldn't quite boast) & will have the funds to spend at will. My bro was gutted Dean Smith got sacked but definitely behind a Gerrard appointment. Villa are quite similar to Rangers in a number of areas also. Similar style original but modernised large capacity stadiums, large expectant fan base, decorated history, coming back from some years of turmoil. Could actually prove to be a good mix for both Gerrard and AVFC going forward. Huge punt on Gerrard though. He's well-respected in the game mainly based on his playing career, though he's done pretty well at Rangers so far. Mental to think that Garde not being great would put them off another manager from literally any other country in the world. Yeah rightly or wrongly the respect from the playing career of a younger manager is what current players respect & it does certainly carry them a long way these days. I know that when John Terry was coaching at Villa he was adored by the players who would cling on to every piece of advice he offered no matter how small. When it comes to coaching would you be as switched on listening to a Dean Smith or a Nathan Jones who plied their trades kicking around in the lower leagues at Port Vale in Smiths case and Yeovil in Jones case?! Or listening to a John Terry or Steven Gerrard type who have won caps galore at major international tournaments for their country and major club honours at the highest level?! It stands to reason really, the guys given you advice with so much experience are talking from that experience & it carries alot more weight when feeding coaching advice through to players. This is I believe is why Nathan Jones never got a tune out of the players he inherited. He came in trying to change the whole onfield philosophy of the club and it backfired spectacularly! Who remembers all them motivational scripts that appeared on the dressing room walls and players locker doors with the mixed ambient lighting effects in there aswell?! All were binned off when Jones and his entourage left the building. The current players we had simply didn't buy into his new found way of coaching and he had no substance to back up what he was trying to get across. There's no way experienced players like Shawcross and Joe Allen for eg would be won over by the fact the diamond formation and the way Jones delivered it for Luton in leagues 3 and 2 would off been accepted & utilised to good effect here. At Luton where the players were more shall we say lower league established they'd of bought into his project and been in awe of what Jones was creating & delivering on the pitch. Jones and Stoke was just never a fit that was going to end well. There are exceptions, I don't think Wenger had a truely exceptional playing career and became a successful manager but they are definitely few and far between. It will definitely be a big call for Villa to appoint Gerrard after a few successful years in Scotland but he has that football life experience that players will look up to and trust in, as I believe will their fans. He'll likely take Gary McAllister along with him aswell who is another experienced Head and respected ex player who also has experience of coaching at Villa as an assistant to Gérard Houllier and then becoming caretaker manager after Houllier became ill.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 10, 2021 17:09:14 GMT
Huge punt on Gerrard though. He's well-respected in the game mainly based on his playing career, though he's done pretty well at Rangers so far. Mental to think that Garde not being great would put them off another manager from literally any other country in the world. Yeah rightly or wrongly the respect from the playing career of a younger manager is what current players respect & it does certainly carry them a long way these days. I know that when John Terry was coaching at Villa he was adored by the players who would cling on to every piece of advice he offered no matter how small. When it comes to coaching would you be as switched on listening to a Dean Smith or a Nathan Jones who plied their trades kicking around in the lower leagues at Port Vale in Smiths case and Yeovil in Jones case?! Or listening to a John Terry or Steven Gerrard type who have won caps galore at major international tournaments for their country and major club honours at the highest level?! It stands to reason really, the guys given you advice with so much experience are talking from that experience & it carries alot more weight when feeding coaching advice through to players. This is I believe is why Nathan Jones never got a tune out of the players he inherited. He came in trying to change the whole onfield philosophy of the club and it backfired spectacularly! Who remembers all them motivational scripts that appeared on the dressing room walls and players locker doors with the mixed ambient lighting effects in there aswell?! All were binned off when Jones and his entourage left the building. The current players we had simply didn't buy into his new found way of coaching and he had no substance to back up what he was trying to get across. There's no way experienced players like Shawcross and Joe Allen for eg would be won over by the fact the diamond formation and the way Jones delivered it for Luton in leagues 3 and 2 would off been accepted & utilised to good effect here. At Luton where the players were more shall we say lower league established they'd of bought into his project and been in awe of what Jones was creating & delivering on the pitch. Jones and Stoke was just never a fit that was going to end well. There are exceptions, I don't think Wenger had a truely exceptional playing career and became a successful manager but they are definitely few and far between. It will definitely be a big call for Villa to appoint Gerrard after a few successful years in Scotland but he has that football life experience that players will look up to and trust in, as I believe will their fans. He'll likely take Gary McAllister along with him aswell who is another experienced Head and respected ex player who also has experience of coaching at Villa as an assistant to Gérard Houllier and then becoming caretaker manager after Houllier became ill. I don't agree that it stands to reason to be honest. Just because you were a great player doesn't mean you'll make a great manager and there are countless examples of great players who were lousy managers. Mourinho, Tuchel, Klopp, Rodgers, Moyes didn't have truly exceptional playing careers. Pulis is our most successful manager of recent times and he didn't have an exceptional playing career.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2021 17:25:11 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Nov 10, 2021 18:20:42 GMT
Yeah rightly or wrongly the respect from the playing career of a younger manager is what current players respect & it does certainly carry them a long way these days. I know that when John Terry was coaching at Villa he was adored by the players who would cling on to every piece of advice he offered no matter how small. When it comes to coaching would you be as switched on listening to a Dean Smith or a Nathan Jones who plied their trades kicking around in the lower leagues at Port Vale in Smiths case and Yeovil in Jones case?! Or listening to a John Terry or Steven Gerrard type who have won caps galore at major international tournaments for their country and major club honours at the highest level?! It stands to reason really, the guys given you advice with so much experience are talking from that experience & it carries alot more weight when feeding coaching advice through to players. This is I believe is why Nathan Jones never got a tune out of the players he inherited. He came in trying to change the whole onfield philosophy of the club and it backfired spectacularly! Who remembers all them motivational scripts that appeared on the dressing room walls and players locker doors with the mixed ambient lighting effects in there aswell?! All were binned off when Jones and his entourage left the building. The current players we had simply didn't buy into his new found way of coaching and he had no substance to back up what he was trying to get across. There's no way experienced players like Shawcross and Joe Allen for eg would be won over by the fact the diamond formation and the way Jones delivered it for Luton in leagues 3 and 2 would off been accepted & utilised to good effect here. At Luton where the players were more shall we say lower league established they'd of bought into his project and been in awe of what Jones was creating & delivering on the pitch. Jones and Stoke was just never a fit that was going to end well. There are exceptions, I don't think Wenger had a truely exceptional playing career and became a successful manager but they are definitely few and far between. It will definitely be a big call for Villa to appoint Gerrard after a few successful years in Scotland but he has that football life experience that players will look up to and trust in, as I believe will their fans. He'll likely take Gary McAllister along with him aswell who is another experienced Head and respected ex player who also has experience of coaching at Villa as an assistant to Gérard Houllier and then becoming caretaker manager after Houllier became ill. I don't agree that it stands to reason to be honest. Just because you were a great player doesn't mean you'll make a great manager and there are countless examples of great players who were lousy managers. Mourinho, Tuchel, Klopp, Rodgers, Moyes didn't have truly exceptional playing careers. Pulis is our most successful manager of recent times and he didn't have an exceptional playing career. Sorry, the stands to reason bit was in direct reference to Dean Smith & Steven Gerrard/John Terry comparison. I did also mention there are exceptions & gave Wenger as an example of that. I agree with the list you give detailing Klopp & Rodgers etc however the present day footballer is a totally different breed to one's these lot grew up in, they are from a different era.. Times have moved on. Younger players now are growing up with higher expectations & at a quicker pace than any of your list of great managers who weren't tremendous players. All the ones you've listed including Wenger to a degree will have earnt their stripes as coaches before being given high profile managerial roles. They had to graft to where they have and certainly wouldn't of earnt the trappings players get now at clubs when they were playing. Rooney, Lampard & Gerrard who are all great examples have all been given high profile jobs without any real coaching or managerial experience, its all purely based on their playing experiences, football kudos & gaining their qualification badges. Younger players at all top level clubs right now would look up to and be receptive of any of Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard. As opposed to a Dean Smith, Gary Rowett or Chris Wilder as examples. Doesn't guarantee them any more success as Lampard at Chelsea proved, but its the different era we're in.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 10, 2021 18:25:43 GMT
I don't agree that it stands to reason to be honest. Just because you were a great player doesn't mean you'll make a great manager and there are countless examples of great players who were lousy managers. Mourinho, Tuchel, Klopp, Rodgers, Moyes didn't have truly exceptional playing careers. Pulis is our most successful manager of recent times and he didn't have an exceptional playing career. Sorry, the stands to reason bit was in direct reference to Dean Smith & Steven Gerrard/John Terry comparison. I did also mention there are exceptions & gave Wenger as an example of that. I agree with the list you give detailing Klopp & Rodgers etc however the present day footballer is a totally different breed to one's these lot grew up in, they are from a different era.. Times have moved on. Younger players now are growing up with higher expectations & quicker than any of your list.. All the ones you've listed including Wenger to a degree will have earnt their stripes as coaches before being given high profile managerial roles. They had to graft to where they have and certainly wouldn't of earnt the trappings players get now at clubs. Rooney, Lampard & Gerrard who are all great examples have all been given high profile jobs without any real coaching or managerial experience, purely based on their playing experience, football kudos & gaining their qualification badges. Younger players at all top level clubs right now would look up to and be receptive of any of Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard. As opposed to a Dean Smith, Gary Rowett or Chris Wilder as examples. Doesn't guarantee them any more success as Lampard at Chelsea proved, but its the different era we're in. Is it really that much different today? Big names have always been fast-tracked into big jobs irrespective of credentials. It's baffling that it still happens in 2021, but it's a longstanding thing.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 10, 2021 18:31:34 GMT
Potter was a boyhood Villa fan so I reckon he would be very interested
Very difficult to assess Gerrard’s credentials, given the standard up there
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Post by callas12 on Nov 10, 2021 18:46:26 GMT
Sorry, the stands to reason bit was in direct reference to Dean Smith & Steven Gerrard/John Terry comparison. I did also mention there are exceptions & gave Wenger as an example of that. I agree with the list you give detailing Klopp & Rodgers etc however the present day footballer is a totally different breed to one's these lot grew up in, they are from a different era.. Times have moved on. Younger players now are growing up with higher expectations & quicker than any of your list.. All the ones you've listed including Wenger to a degree will have earnt their stripes as coaches before being given high profile managerial roles. They had to graft to where they have and certainly wouldn't of earnt the trappings players get now at clubs. Rooney, Lampard & Gerrard who are all great examples have all been given high profile jobs without any real coaching or managerial experience, purely based on their playing experience, football kudos & gaining their qualification badges. Younger players at all top level clubs right now would look up to and be receptive of any of Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard. As opposed to a Dean Smith, Gary Rowett or Chris Wilder as examples. Doesn't guarantee them any more success as Lampard at Chelsea proved, but its the different era we're in. Is it really that much different today? Big names have always been fast-tracked into big jobs irrespective of credentials. It's baffling that it still happens in 2021, but it's a longstanding thing. Agreed. I suppose a great example & back in the day our very own Mick Mills was appointed our player/manager when he began to wind his playing career back in, now that was a total shot in the dark looking back. Especially after how we'd just fallen from Div 1! Looking back he did OK to steady the ship as he did with limited funds & a weary fast disappearing fan base as we were in a right mess. Don't think he got the credit he deserved looking back. I suppose there's no science or right or wrong way about Appointing new football managers. The fairy tail scenario is to finsih playing, start off coaching and start out learning your trade by managing a lower league or statused club & reaching for the top when gained that vital experience. Certainly wouldn't begrudge someone like Graham Potter getting a job on the Villa scale. Whilst his playing career wasn't that spectacular at least he can back his creditials up by his years gained coaching and managing up the pyramid. Just think it's the mentality of current day players that will keep the inexperienced ex players with no coaching or managerial backgrounds coming into the game without necessarily having the grounding they need to manage at top level clubs. Younger players all crave role models now & if someone they watched & adored as a player becomes their manager they'll naturally be more receptive by their stature than their qualifications or know how presents. Not right but it does seem to be happening more & more.. ie whats on Solskjaer CV to have made him qualify as acceptable as the current Man Utd manager?! Baffling!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 10, 2021 18:55:32 GMT
Is it really that much different today? Big names have always been fast-tracked into big jobs irrespective of credentials. It's baffling that it still happens in 2021, but it's a longstanding thing. Agreed. I suppose a great example & back in the day our very own Mick Mills was appointed our player/manager when he began to wind his playing career back in, now that was a total shot in the dark looking back. Especially after how we'd just fallen from Div 1! Looking back he did OK to steady the ship as he did with limited funds & a weary fast disappearing fan base as we were in a right mess. Don't think he got the credit he deserved looking back. I suppose there's no science or right or wrong way about Appointing new football managers. The fairy tail scenario is to finsih playing, start off coaching and start out learning your trade by managing a lower league or statused club & reaching for the top when gained that vital experience. Certainly wouldn't begrudge someone like Graham Potter getting a job on the Villa scale. Whilst his playing career wasn't that spectacular at least he can back his creditials up by his years gained coaching and managing up the pyramid. Just think it's the mentality of current day players that will keep the inexperienced ex players with no coaching or managerial backgrounds coming into the game without necessarily having the grounding they need to manage at top level clubs. Younger players all crave role models now & if someone they watched & adored as a player becomes their manager they'll naturally be more receptive by their stature than their qualifications or know how presents. Not right but it does seem to be happening more & more.. ie whats on Solskjaer CV to have made him qualify as acceptable as the current Man Utd manager?! Baffling! The OGS one is another one, agreed, totally unqualified for that job, as Lampard was for Chelsea. I think the appointments though are less to do with what young players want and more a cheap, sentimental ploy by cynical owners a lot of the time.
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Post by potterburt on Nov 10, 2021 19:19:35 GMT
My Bro's a Villa fan and quite excited about Gerrard potentially being their new manager. They're more concerned about getting an unheard of foreign coach again in the mold of Remi Garde who totally destroyed Villa. Gerrard will be well very connected in the game, is definitely very well respected (something Dean Smith couldn't quite boast) & will have the funds to spend at will. My bro was gutted Dean Smith got sacked but definitely behind a Gerrard appointment. Villa are quite similar to Rangers in a number of areas also. Similar style original but modernised large capacity stadiums, large expectant fan base, decorated history, coming back from some years of turmoil. Could actually prove to be a good mix for both Gerrard and AVFC going forward. When all is said and done - The only difference between a Gerrard and a Garde is a…. ‘Err…’! (Ya can have that one for free 😉)
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Post by callas12 on Nov 10, 2021 19:24:42 GMT
Agreed. I suppose a great example & back in the day our very own Mick Mills was appointed our player/manager when he began to wind his playing career back in, now that was a total shot in the dark looking back. Especially after how we'd just fallen from Div 1! Looking back he did OK to steady the ship as he did with limited funds & a weary fast disappearing fan base as we were in a right mess. Don't think he got the credit he deserved looking back. I suppose there's no science or right or wrong way about Appointing new football managers. The fairy tail scenario is to finsih playing, start off coaching and start out learning your trade by managing a lower league or statused club & reaching for the top when gained that vital experience. Certainly wouldn't begrudge someone like Graham Potter getting a job on the Villa scale. Whilst his playing career wasn't that spectacular at least he can back his creditials up by his years gained coaching and managing up the pyramid. Just think it's the mentality of current day players that will keep the inexperienced ex players with no coaching or managerial backgrounds coming into the game without necessarily having the grounding they need to manage at top level clubs. Younger players all crave role models now & if someone they watched & adored as a player becomes their manager they'll naturally be more receptive by their stature than their qualifications or know how presents. Not right but it does seem to be happening more & more.. ie whats on Solskjaer CV to have made him qualify as acceptable as the current Man Utd manager?! Baffling! The OGS one is another one, agreed, totally unqualified for that job, as Lampard was for Chelsea. I think the appointments though are less to do with what young players want and more a cheap, sentimental ploy by cynical owners a lot of the time. Be like the Coates Appointing Bojan as our next manager! Always remember asking Denis Smith if he ever fancied or had been offered the Stoke hot seat in his Coaching/Managing days at a live Radio Stoke studio Q&A session. He said that in his mind he would of loved to have managed Stoke, & Peter Coates had muted the idea on a few occasions with him but it never materialised & in his heart he had no regrets that it never happened as he'd of hated to have failed and the relationship he had with Stoke be tarnished in any way. Wise words..
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Post by callas12 on Nov 10, 2021 19:26:23 GMT
My Bro's a Villa fan and quite excited about Gerrard potentially being their new manager. They're more concerned about getting an unheard of foreign coach again in the mold of Remi Garde who totally destroyed Villa. Gerrard will be well very connected in the game, is definitely very well respected (something Dean Smith couldn't quite boast) & will have the funds to spend at will. My bro was gutted Dean Smith got sacked but definitely behind a Gerrard appointment. Villa are quite similar to Rangers in a number of areas also. Similar style original but modernised large capacity stadiums, large expectant fan base, decorated history, coming back from some years of turmoil. Could actually prove to be a good mix for both Gerrard and AVFC going forward. When all is said and done - The only difference between a Gerrard and a Garde is a…. ‘Err…’! (Ya can have that one for free 😉) Lol nicely done 👏🏻🤣
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Post by shakermaker on Nov 10, 2021 20:36:11 GMT
Agreed. I suppose a great example & back in the day our very own Mick Mills was appointed our player/manager when he began to wind his playing career back in, now that was a total shot in the dark looking back. Especially after how we'd just fallen from Div 1! Looking back he did OK to steady the ship as he did with limited funds & a weary fast disappearing fan base as we were in a right mess. Don't think he got the credit he deserved looking back. I suppose there's no science or right or wrong way about Appointing new football managers. The fairy tail scenario is to finsih playing, start off coaching and start out learning your trade by managing a lower league or statused club & reaching for the top when gained that vital experience. Certainly wouldn't begrudge someone like Graham Potter getting a job on the Villa scale. Whilst his playing career wasn't that spectacular at least he can back his creditials up by his years gained coaching and managing up the pyramid. Just think it's the mentality of current day players that will keep the inexperienced ex players with no coaching or managerial backgrounds coming into the game without necessarily having the grounding they need to manage at top level clubs. Younger players all crave role models now & if someone they watched & adored as a player becomes their manager they'll naturally be more receptive by their stature than their qualifications or know how presents. Not right but it does seem to be happening more & more.. ie whats on Solskjaer CV to have made him qualify as acceptable as the current Man Utd manager?! Baffling! The OGS one is another one, agreed, totally unqualified for that job, as Lampard was for Chelsea. I think the appointments though are less to do with what young players want and more a cheap, sentimental ploy by cynical owners a lot of the time. The Lampard example is a good example that great players with trophies falling out of their pockets do not necessarily become great managers. There’s also Roy Keane - the midfield general and captain of one of the greatest sides of the Premier League era. You’d think he would have learned so much from Fergie, but he turned out to be decidedly average and some players (like SJW) actually ended up hating rather than respecting him.
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 11, 2021 10:02:38 GMT
He’s now joined Villa
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Post by moon on Nov 11, 2021 10:22:21 GMT
I'm a bit surprised by this one, I thought Gerrard would stick it out at Rangers for this season at the very least and defend the title. Obviously I can see the appeal of a job in the Premier League but it's quite a gamble going to Villa, I'm guessing he's upped his wage quite a bit though.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 11, 2021 10:25:15 GMT
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Post by flea79 on Nov 11, 2021 10:30:26 GMT
the replies from the pasty ones on that thread are amazing
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 11, 2021 10:31:12 GMT
Right now the dust has settled my opinion on the sacking of Deano , personally I think he had enough credit in the bank to be given longer but I feel the board have panicked without looking at the bigger picture,once our injuries clear up we'll be fine and a couple of wins and all would of been well in B6. I feel the major problem was the coaching staff, bringing in Shakespeare seemed to unsettle the rest,JT left closely followed by O'Kelly who'd been Dean's right hand man going back to Walsall another mistake in my opinion was getting that McFee in the set piece coach I'm struggling to see what he brings to the table as our defending from set pieces is as bad as I can remember ! Who next ? Well it's looking like Gerrard not sure about this at all as anyone with one ounce of managerial ability could get Rangers or Celtic in the top two in the Sunday Pub League and therefore guarantee Europe,why hasenhutal(crap spelling) is being mentioned god only knows, Martinez didn't pull any trees up at Everton,I actually like Potter but I don't think he'd come as he's worked hard to turn Brighton around,i also wouldn't mind Fauve the ex BVB coach but would he come ? So to sum up I ain't got a clue who's gonna get it Dean Smith gave us some great memories and I for one will always be grateful for what he did for The Villa,a proper Villa man through and through UTV Something to be mindful of with Gerrard is that if he is successful for Villa, he will eventually leave you to join Liverpool. It is his ultimate calling. That's all well and good, but Villa shouldn't be a stepping stone if your ambitions are to be challenging for Top 4 some day. You need a manager for the long term. I actually think Potter could be tempted away to join Villa. It depends whether he feels Brighton have enough in the tank to be challenging Top 6 for the rest of the season, or whether he feels he can get Villa there in a year or so. Smith is a very good manager... but he never struck me as coming across as a 'Premier League manager'. Not sure if that's because he just comes across as the sort of bloke you'd get talking to down the pub or what. Is there such a thing as a long term manager in football anymore? With very few exceptions.....I don't think so!
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Post by sheds1862 on Nov 11, 2021 11:12:07 GMT
Steven Gerrard's Aston Villa
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 11, 2021 11:42:11 GMT
Good move for Gerrard. What else could he achieve at Rangers? The SPL is like groundhog day. It's a big call for him some level of success at Villa would edge him towards a Klopp replacement which is obviously his ambition, a failure could severely dent those ambitions. His achievements at Rangers shouldn't be underestimated. p.s. Enjoy the inevitable media jizzfest at least it might persuade the BBCand Sky to talk about something other than the so called big six.
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 11, 2021 12:05:24 GMT
Massive job for Gerrard after working in a Mickey Mouse league
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2021 12:06:01 GMT
Gerrard to replace Dean Smith
not an upgrade is it (?)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 11, 2021 12:07:37 GMT
Gerrard to replace Dean Smith not an upgrade is it (?) Difficult to see how it is, agree.
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