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Post by superalexneil on Sept 16, 2021 9:21:42 GMT
This guy is a hell of a player. Amazed he's still with us to be honest. We're watching an incredible talent who will be a top premier league centre half for many years, I think. I can’t think of a Premier League centre back I’d have over Souttar, genuinely. I don’t think people realise how good he actually is. Some of these comments are cringeworthy. He looks bloody good but to say you wouldnt have VVD, dias, laporte, stones, maguire, varane, thiago silva, rudiger to name a few over him is just embarrasing
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 16, 2021 11:58:43 GMT
I can’t think of a Premier League centre back I’d have over Souttar, genuinely. I don’t think people realise how good he actually is. Some of these comments are cringeworthy. He looks bloody good but to say you wouldnt have VVD, dias, laporte, stones, maguire, varane, thiago silva, rudiger to name a few over him is just embarrasing None of them are big Soutts.
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Post by superalexneil on Sept 16, 2021 17:49:54 GMT
Some of these comments are cringeworthy. He looks bloody good but to say you wouldnt have VVD, dias, laporte, stones, maguire, varane, thiago silva, rudiger to name a few over him is just embarrasing None of them are big Soutts. No they are alot better
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 16, 2021 18:43:17 GMT
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Post by yyy on Sept 16, 2021 18:51:45 GMT
Made a tackle last night that was glimpses of a young Shawcross, best thing he could do is stay at Stoke for a couple of seasons and mature further instead of landing a big contract and chances of sitting on a bench, we won't be long out of top league ourselves
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Sept 16, 2021 18:54:57 GMT
Different games, the two either side of him play much more on the edge. They’ll probably do a lot more of everything including making costly mistakes. You can’t judge from the stats how much those duels mattered or effected the outcome of the game. Defensively big H was imperious. I still want a little more from him particularly from our corners but I don’t think our corner routines are that inventive, I thought Huddersfield’s were good at the weekend despite the fact they didn’t produce end product.
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Post by christhepotter on Sept 16, 2021 18:56:37 GMT
Sad thing is if someone offered 20 mil in January he would be sold 😔
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 16, 2021 19:57:34 GMT
Any chance admin could destroy this thread?
Start a new one then. Souttar is over-rated?
If someone could arrange any coverage of our matches to have Wimmer photoshopped in to replace Harry too it would be much appreciated.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 16, 2021 20:01:30 GMT
Thought he was excellent last night and our best playmaker (unfortunately)
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 16, 2021 20:23:50 GMT
I can’t think of a Premier League centre back I’d have over Souttar, genuinely. I don’t think people realise how good he actually is. Some of these comments are cringeworthy. He looks bloody good but to say you wouldnt have VVD, dias, laporte, stones, maguire, varane, thiago silva, rudiger to name a few over him is just embarrasing VVD was exactly the same as Harry when at Celtic and moved to Southampton and stepped up and then again at Liverpool, not saying Harry will reach those height's but I reckon there's a good chance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 10:01:01 GMT
I can’t think of a Premier League centre back I’d have over Souttar, genuinely. I don’t think people realise how good he actually is. Some of these comments are cringeworthy. He looks bloody good but to say you wouldnt have VVD, dias, laporte, stones, maguire, varane, thiago silva, rudiger to name a few over him is just embarrasing Football is emotional, I get it completely. People are thinking with their hearts, god forbid they love one of our players. I'd love Harry to see out his entire career for us, he's clearly a quality player and I think he seems a great lad too.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 17, 2021 10:13:20 GMT
I can’t think of a Premier League centre back I’d have over Souttar, genuinely. I don’t think people realise how good he actually is. Some of these comments are cringeworthy. He looks bloody good but to say you wouldnt have VVD, dias, laporte, stones, maguire, varane, thiago silva, rudiger to name a few over him is just embarrasing There are definitely some on that list I’d have him over. In fact more than 50%.
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 17, 2021 10:23:06 GMT
His style and stature reminds me of a young Harry maguire, touch wood he's not as accident prone as maguire was at this age
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 17, 2021 10:57:01 GMT
Some of these comments are cringeworthy. He looks bloody good but to say you wouldnt have VVD, dias, laporte, stones, maguire, varane, thiago silva, rudiger to name a few over him is just embarrasing Football is emotional, I get it completely. People are thinking with their hearts, god forbid they love one of our players. I'd love Harry to see out his entire career for us, he's clearly a quality player and I think he seems a great lad too. Exactly this. We've actually got a likeable squad with some genuine talent in it for the first time in years. Favourite player in this team, absolute monster, Virgil my fucking arse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 11:07:17 GMT
I can see Moyes making a move for him in January with the money he’ll bring in from Rice’s impending transfer.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Sept 17, 2021 11:35:27 GMT
Signed a new long term deal 7 months ago, it’s going to take at least £20-25 and the end of the season £30m if someone wants him in jan
EDIT- Just checked it’s til 2025
Fantastic stuff stoke
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Post by lstokie on Sept 17, 2021 11:36:58 GMT
I imagine that its more a case of teams not trying to ping balls in the direction of the "6'6" lad at the back.
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 17, 2021 11:47:32 GMT
I think we have to be pragmatic here, he won't stay with us for very much longer if he continues as he is doing. If we get a fair price, then we will be in a much stronger financial position and a much healthier position FFP wise. Obviously if we get promoted that's a different matter, but let's just focus on the here & now.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Sept 17, 2021 11:48:39 GMT
I imagine that its more a case of teams not trying to ping balls in the direction of the "6'6" lad at the back. Was reading something in the athletic about the Nottingham forest sacking yesterday and apparently their players were all kicking off because all the balls were just aimed at H and they never got a sniff 😂
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Post by superalexneil on Sept 18, 2021 13:57:12 GMT
Some of these comments are cringeworthy. He looks bloody good but to say you wouldnt have VVD, dias, laporte, stones, maguire, varane, thiago silva, rudiger to name a few over him is just embarrasing There are definitely some on that list I’d have him over. In fact more than 50%. Please tell me which
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2021 18:23:22 GMT
There are definitely some on that list I’d have him over. In fact more than 50%. Please tell me which Stones, Maguire and Rudiger for starters. And I’m not a fan of Laporte either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 18:32:28 GMT
Stones, Maguire and Rudiger for starters. And I’m not a fan of Laporte either. Wow. Souttar was trash versus Spurs and he was also awful this season versus Fulham. He’s a great, young defender, but to compare him to some of the best players in the league above is just insane. Jagielka looked decent today, he’s what, 36? Imagine how comfortable Stones or Maguire would be in this division. They’d probably have a bong in one hand.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2021 18:36:51 GMT
Stones, Maguire and Rudiger for starters. And I’m not a fan of Laporte either. Wow. Souttar was trash versus Spurs and he was also awful this season versus Fulham. He’s a great, young defender, but to compare him to some of the best players in the league above is just insane. Jagielka looked decent today, he’s what, 36? Imagine how comfortable Stones or Maguire would be in this division. They’d probably have a bong in one hand. The question wasn’t who is currently better than who but who you would swap him for. He has the potential to be better than most of those defenders which is why I wouldn’t swap him for them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 19:17:59 GMT
Wow. Souttar was trash versus Spurs and he was also awful this season versus Fulham. He’s a great, young defender, but to compare him to some of the best players in the league above is just insane. Jagielka looked decent today, he’s what, 36? Imagine how comfortable Stones or Maguire would be in this division. They’d probably have a bong in one hand. The question wasn’t who is currently better than who but who you would swap him for. He has the potential to be better than most of those defenders which is why I wouldn’t swap him for them. No he doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 19:22:19 GMT
Wow. Souttar was trash versus Spurs and he was also awful this season versus Fulham. He’s a great, young defender, but to compare him to some of the best players in the league above is just insane. Jagielka looked decent today, he’s what, 36? Imagine how comfortable Stones or Maguire would be in this division. They’d probably have a bong in one hand. The question wasn’t who is currently better than who but who you would swap him for. He has the potential to be better than most of those defenders which is why I wouldn’t swap him for them. I don’t see it ever being a question one day of, “why didn’t he wait and declare for England”. I also don’t see it being that likely that he gets a £50-80 million transfer, but viewing potential is all in the eyes of the viewer. I just think his lack of agility will limit him from breaking through certain ceilings.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2021 19:24:43 GMT
The question wasn’t who is currently better than who but who you would swap him for. He has the potential to be better than most of those defenders which is why I wouldn’t swap him for them. I don’t see it ever being a question one day of, “why didn’t he wait and declare for England”. I also don’t see it being that likely that he gets a £50-80 million transfer, but viewing potential is all in the eyes of the viewer. I just think his lack of agility will limit him from breaking through certain ceilings. Exactly. It’s an opinion. Sometimes based on evidence sometimes on one eyed bias.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2021 19:25:08 GMT
The question wasn’t who is currently better than who but who you would swap him for. He has the potential to be better than most of those defenders which is why I wouldn’t swap him for them. No he doesn't. Yes he does.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 20:29:44 GMT
Pretty much every one of the centre halves named in this thread, and who you say Harry has more potential than, were all playing at a higher level than Souttar is right now at the same age. Some of the centre halves named are up there with the very best in the business, Harry Souttar is looking very good at this level but some of the comments on this thread are laughable.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2021 21:27:02 GMT
Pretty much every one of the centre halves named in this thread, and who you say Harry has more potential than, were all playing at a higher level than Souttar is right now at the same age. Some of the centre halves named are up there with the very best in the business, Harry Souttar is looking very good at this level but some of the comments on this thread are laughable. I’m not really bothered what you think to be honest. It’s my opinion. Vincent Pericard played for Juventus in serie A you know?
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Post by superalexneil on Sept 19, 2021 10:11:48 GMT
Stones, Maguire and Rudiger for starters. And I’m not a fan of Laporte either. John stones with 9 trophies to his name, and played a massive part in england reaching semis and final in last 2 tournanments Harry maguire also number one CB for england reaching semis and final, manchester united captain Ruidger who has 5 trophies. Come on lads lets get in the real world, souttar is bloody brilliant. But lets be honest we would swap for any of the above.
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