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Post by scfc1863 on May 31, 2021 18:03:22 GMT
I've watched all three play-off finals from Wembley and noticed the same thing happened in all three games.
Whilst the teams were taking the knee prior to kick-off there was audible booing to be heard in all the the matches.
Judging by the size of the crowds it wasn't a massive amount of people doing it but still could be heard all the same.
What do we concur from this? I'm assuming that these are people with racist views who object to the Black Lives Matter message or is it something else?
If it is racist behavior, then what will the football authorities do about it, especially with their anti-racism ongoing campaign?
It's an issue that's going to give them a problem to resolve. If they decided to stop the 'taking the knee', because of the booing, what message does that convey?
It's a problem that'll only get worse I fear when larger crowds return for the Euros and next domestic season.
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Post by PotterLog on May 31, 2021 18:06:26 GMT
It's something else.
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Post by Dave the Rave on May 31, 2021 18:08:41 GMT
People who don't like freedom of expression maybe?
Or perhaps those booing think the footballers are too thick to know what they're kneeling for?
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Post by scfc1863 on May 31, 2021 18:10:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 18:11:06 GMT
BLM are political / quasi-political movement.
Some of the booing maybe due to racial issues.
Some of the booing maybe due to the fact the football field is not the place to advance political ideology.
Some of the booing maybe due to the fact it just pisses people off.
Some of the booing maybe due to the fact that it's ran its course.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 18:24:43 GMT
BLM are political / quasi-political movement. Some of the booing maybe due to racial issues. Some of the booing maybe due to the fact the football field is not the place to advance political ideology. Some of the booing maybe due to the fact it just pisses people off. Some of the booing maybe due to the fact that it's ran its course. Maybe we should take the knee in the oatcake for better grammar. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 31, 2021 18:30:30 GMT
it’ll be even worse next season. Will they be doing it in the Euros?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 18:43:43 GMT
It's a meaningless gesture and people are sick of it? Not just 'racist' white people but Wilf Zaha, Les Ferdinand and others
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Post by thestatusquo on May 31, 2021 18:50:31 GMT
It’s a good job Demba Ba has retired. He would never have made the kick off 🙃
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2021 18:52:15 GMT
Thankfully Momo and Crappy don’t appear to have surfaced yet so perhaps we can have a decent conversation about it.
Personally I believe it’s clearly had no effect and is a token gesture made by multi millionaires as an easy way to say they stand up to racism.
It needs to stop and real action needs to be taken if the authorities and indeed professional footballers are serious about stopping this abhorrent behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 18:57:30 GMT
What we really need to end racism is more mixed race families in TV adverts
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Post by lordb on May 31, 2021 18:58:39 GMT
Thankfully Momo and Crappy don’t appear to have surfaced yet so perhaps we can have a decent conversation about it. Personally I believe it’s clearly had no effect and is a token gesture made by multi millionaires as an easy way to say they stand up to racism. It needs to stop and real action needs to be taken if the authorities and indeed professional footballers are serious about stopping this abhorrent behaviour. What would real action look like? What can football actually do? Isn't anything they do going to look like tokenism? What I find disturbing is lots of people appear to be far more upset by the taking the knee than actual racism. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 19:03:32 GMT
Thankfully Momo and Crappy don’t appear to have surfaced yet so perhaps we can have a decent conversation about it. Personally I believe it’s clearly had no effect and is a token gesture made by multi millionaires as an easy way to say they stand up to racism. It needs to stop and real action needs to be taken if the authorities and indeed professional footballers are serious about stopping this abhorrent behaviour. Right wing filth |
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Post by followyoudown on May 31, 2021 19:03:55 GMT
Thankfully Momo and Crappy don’t appear to have surfaced yet so perhaps we can have a decent conversation about it. Personally I believe it’s clearly had no effect and is a token gesture made by multi millionaires as an easy way to say they stand up to racism. It needs to stop and real action needs to be taken if the authorities and indeed professional footballers are serious about stopping this abhorrent behaviour. What would real action look like? What can football actually do? Isn't anything they do going to look like tokenism? What I find disturbing is lots of people appear to be far more upset by the taking the knee than actual racism. In terms of the world, football can do very little, but this whole making a brave stance against the scourge of racism - do you actually know anyone who thinks racism is great ? They could perhaps put forward a plan / suggestions to address the under-representation of black players in coaching and / or the lack of footballers from certain communities (those with indian, pakistani, chinese heritage etc) |
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Post by salfordstokie on May 31, 2021 19:04:35 GMT
I think there are many reasons why fans have been booing taking the knee. To simply argue that those booing are all or mostly racist is unfair. Personally, whilst I dont agree with taking the knee, I would never boo. But nor would I applaud. For me Black Lives Matter is a political movement and those behind it dont care one jot about racial equality. We are in very dangerous territory if people who boo are punished for doing so.
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Post by dirtclod on May 31, 2021 19:05:40 GMT
Agree, seems a token & meaningless gesture that supplies a source for argument.
Probably reminds the racists at the games "Oh yeah, I simply must not forget to hurl racist abuse at that FB!" Those types don't care about a silent knee for a few seconds.
Then the ones booing - their boing gets all misconstrued by both sides of the issue as to what exactly are they booing? That it's a meaningless gesture and they want the game to get going? They don't want better race relations? Or Both? Edit: Or, are they pissed off at BLM for the political stuff?
As you said Badger, it's become a photo-op. The people on the street getting attacked because they are a [fill in the blank] aren't aware that some multi-millionaires just took a knee, supposedly for them.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 19:06:40 GMT
I'm going to put my neck on the chopping block here and say that most people think it's a load of absolute bollocks that has no place in football.
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Post by Pugsley on May 31, 2021 19:09:06 GMT
What would real action look like? What can football actually do? Isn't anything they do going to look like tokenism? What I find disturbing is lots of people appear to be far more upset by the taking the knee than actual racism. In terms of the world, football can do very little, but this whole making a brave stance against the scourge of racism - do you actually know anyone who thinks racism is great ? They could perhaps put forward a plan / suggestions to address the under-representation of black players in coaching and / or the lack of footballers from certain communities (those with indian, pakistani, chinese heritage etc) Boris Johnson? |
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Post by thevoid on May 31, 2021 19:09:50 GMT
I wonder if the Jews currently fearing for their safety in our country feel included by an organisation such as BLM?
The message should be about kicking out ALL racism, should it not?
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Post by dirtclod on May 31, 2021 19:13:16 GMT
Well and now it's a Pandora's Box, as VincentVega said above, to me it really has no place in sport but...now that it's in: whomever NOW suggests that it be discontinued will be tarred & feathered as a "racist."
Edit - Sorry for the overuse of now.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2021 19:15:21 GMT
Anyone know when Momo and Crappys bans expire? Bet they’re like a pair of coiled springs!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 19:16:33 GMT
I wonder if the Jews currently fearing for their safety in our country feel included by an organisation such as BLM? The message should be about kicking out ALL racism, should it not? 100%. And to most people, rightly or wrongly, the BLM movement and the "taking the knee" gesture is related to a career criminal being killed by a Police Officer in America. George Floyd did not deserve to die that day, and his killer will be made to pay for his actions, but football fans in a country thousands of miles away do not need reminding of it at every football ground, every game for the next 2 years or more. |
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Post by Pugsley on May 31, 2021 19:17:20 GMT
Imagine getting pissy knickers about a bunch of blokes taking a knee.
BOOOOOOOOO
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 19:17:58 GMT
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Post by songthrush01 on May 31, 2021 19:24:46 GMT
I've watched all three play-off finals from Wembley and noticed the same thing happened in all three games. Whilst the teams were taking the knee prior to kick-off there was audible booing to be heard in all the the matches. Judging by the size of the crowds it wasn't a massive amount of people doing it but still could be heard all the same. What do we concur from this? I'm assuming that these are people with racist views who object to the Black Lives Matter message or is it something else? If it is racist behavior, then what will the football authorities do about it, especially with their anti-racism ongoing campaign? It's an issue that's going to give them a problem to resolve. If they decided to stop the 'taking the knee', because of the booing, what message does that convey? It's a problem that'll only get worse I fear when larger crowds return for the Euros and next domestic season. what are you on about, there more black players here, than there is in africa.BURN LOOT MURDER |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2021 19:34:28 GMT
Thankfully Momo and Crappy don’t appear to have surfaced yet so perhaps we can have a decent conversation about it. Personally I believe it’s clearly had no effect and is a token gesture made by multi millionaires as an easy way to say they stand up to racism. It needs to stop and real action needs to be taken if the authorities and indeed professional footballers are serious about stopping this abhorrent behaviour. What would real action look like? What can football actually do? Isn't anything they do going to look like tokenism? What I find disturbing is lots of people appear to be far more upset by the taking the knee than actual racism. I’ve no idea. That’s for the football authorities to work out instead of a bandwagon idea. It’s too easy all this kneeling and wearing t shirts and ultimately it has zero or worse, a negative effect. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 19:41:23 GMT
What we really need to end racism is more mixed race families in TV adverts Somebody at work was saying ...why are we having a census ? When we already know from TV adverts that the population of England is exactly 50 % black and 50 % white |
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Post by dexta on May 31, 2021 19:41:39 GMT
It's all bollocks
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 31, 2021 19:43:34 GMT
People who don't like freedom of expression maybe? Or perhaps those booing think the footballers are too thick to know what they're kneeling for? Surely though booing is also freedom of expression too. I think that it didn’t start off well because initially the knee was representative of the BLM movement until people sussed out what they were all about and then moved the goalposts to it being simply the far better cause of fighting racism. However by then the damage had been done particularly with the exposure of the likes of Sasha who far from fighting equality were looking to enslave white people. Ultimately it’s new meaning to fight racism is a good one but after over a year it’s ran its course. Would I boo it? no. Are there better less diversory ways of fighting racism and fighting for unity? Almost certainly. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 19:47:52 GMT
Plausibly , I might want to see some banging hot babe , take the knee .
But why on earth , would I want to see harry Kane or Sam vokes , take the knee
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