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Post by slicko on May 14, 2021 17:20:04 GMT
A Darth Vader moment  |
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Post by clarkeda on May 14, 2021 17:25:11 GMT
He's my favourite Crewe player, a fantastic holding midfielder who is a great passer and makes everything tick. He can also play centre back comfortably. I'd sign him in a heart beat, much better than anything we've got in his position. He sounds absolutely perfect. With 12 months working along side Mikel. |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on May 14, 2021 17:50:58 GMT
A Darth Vader moment I only wished his name was luke.. I honestly did😁 |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 14, 2021 18:16:13 GMT
I wouldn't be staggered. The better League 1 Bosmans will have lots of Championship interest, you'd think, especially post-Brexit with the market shrinking. The fact he's local and on peanuts will add to the attraction. Seems to be the type who could split minutes with Mikel? www.playmakerstats.com/news.php?id=285215&nchapter=4Ryan Wintle is a classic Crewe style of player. He is the perfect ‘out ball’ for anyone who gets in trouble in possession. He has excellent technique, tempo and vision in his passing and movement. On the rare occasions when he is unfit or is playing as a makeshift centre back, Crewe’s possession play loses its structure. His diagonal passes to Kirk are the most consistent way that Crewe have unlocked defences this season. His contract is up this summer and if I’m Dave Artell, extending it is Priority Number One. The club may be able to keep hold of him, as Wintle is better suited to teams that play 4-3-3, with him playing as a deep-lying playmaker. His defensive work is tidy and assured but he can still progress as a ball winner and a physical presence. He can look to ex-Alex man Ashley Westwood as a model for where his career could go with a couple more years of development. That writeup of his game, makes him sound like exactly the thing we need, so with that being said,he won't be coming to Stoke. Yeah because our midfield needs yet another light weight. I know nothing about him but the sentence about him needing to progress as a ball winner and his physical presence doesn’t sound promising. We need a destroyer for a DM not another Ryan Woods. |
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Post by fca47 on May 14, 2021 18:33:06 GMT
That writeup of his game, makes him sound like exactly the thing we need, so with that being said,he won't be coming to Stoke. Yeah because our midfield needs yet another light weight. I know nothing about him but the sentence about him needing to progress as a ball winner and his physical presence doesn’t sound promising. We need a destroyer for a DM not another Ryan Woods. I don't think weight comes into it, it needs soeone who can tackle properly. look at the legendary Leeds midfield Giles and Bremner, small but determined to win the ball. I think that is the difference between the first team and the U23's, when they tackle they mean it, our midfield, half the time is just shadowing players , hardly ever win the ball or even attempt to. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 14, 2021 18:46:30 GMT
Yeah because our midfield needs yet another light weight. I know nothing about him but the sentence about him needing to progress as a ball winner and his physical presence doesn’t sound promising. We need a destroyer for a DM not another Ryan Woods. I don't think weight comes into it, it needs soeone who can tackle properly. look at the legendary Leeds midfield Giles and Bremner, small but determined to win the ball. I think that is the difference between the first team and the U23's, when they tackle they mean it, our midfield, half the time is just shadowing players , hardly ever win the ball or even attempt to. I think you’re wrong physical stature is always an element that’s why you don’t put the fiestiest of lightweights in with even a shit heavyweight. We have for a number of years had too many small players through the spine of our team. |
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Post by mrpickles on May 14, 2021 18:51:15 GMT
He's my favourite Crewe player, a fantastic holding midfielder who is a great passer and makes everything tick. He can also play centre back comfortably. I'd sign him in a heart beat, much better than anything we've got in his position. Just out of interest mate, how tall is he? Reason I ask is that I've seen 165cm (about 5ft 4) mentioned on one site. I'm assuming that's a fuck up? 😂 |
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Post by fca47 on May 14, 2021 18:54:04 GMT
I don't think weight comes into it, it needs soeone who can tackle properly. look at the legendary Leeds midfield Giles and Bremner, small but determined to win the ball. I think that is the difference between the first team and the U23's, when they tackle they mean it, our midfield, half the time is just shadowing players , hardly ever win the ball or even attempt to. I think you’re wrong physical stature is always an element that’s why you don’t put the fiestiest of lightweights in with even a shit heavyweight. We have for a number of years had too many small players through the spine of our team. Didn't think we were talking about boxing. All things being equal what you're saying is probably true but i think the determination to win the ball is the most important factor , along with the ability to tackle properly. Seen loads of big players who shirk out of tackles. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 14, 2021 19:00:04 GMT
I don't think weight comes into it, it needs soeone who can tackle properly. look at the legendary Leeds midfield Giles and Bremner, small but determined to win the ball. I think that is the difference between the first team and the U23's, when they tackle they mean it, our midfield, half the time is just shadowing players , hardly ever win the ball or even attempt to. I think you’re wrong physical stature is always an element that’s why you don’t put the fiestiest of lightweights in with even a shit heavyweight. We have for a number of years had too many small players through the spine of our team. N’Golo Kante is minuscule yet the finest defensive midfielder on the planet currently. You don’t need brute strength if you’ve got the brain. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 14, 2021 19:00:06 GMT
I think you’re wrong physical stature is always an element that’s why you don’t put the fiestiest of lightweights in with even a shit heavyweight. We have for a number of years had too many small players through the spine of our team. Didn't think we were talking about boxing. All things being equal what you're saying is probably true but i think the determination to win the ball is the most important factor , along with the ability to tackle properly. Seen loads of big players who shirk out of tackles. You only have to look at Pogba. 6ft 3” or whatever he is, moulded out of stone, can’t tackle to save his life and constantly crumbles in a 50/50 against the likes of 5ft 8” built like a feather Jota last night |
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Post by questionable on May 14, 2021 19:12:24 GMT
I think you’re wrong physical stature is always an element that’s why you don’t put the fiestiest of lightweights in with even a shit heavyweight. We have for a number of years had too many small players through the spine of our team. N’Golo Kante is minuscule yet the finest defensive midfielder on the planet currently. You don’t need brute strength if you’ve got the brain. i I’d settle for any midfielders who were actually remotely anywhere near the oppositions and if I dare ask track back?? |
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Post by onepara on May 14, 2021 19:34:40 GMT
Alan Ball wasn't that tall, but he was feisty, & did a job for England in 1966, as I remember. Ditto Nobby Stiles.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on May 14, 2021 19:57:12 GMT
I think you’re wrong physical stature is always an element that’s why you don’t put the fiestiest of lightweights in with even a shit heavyweight. We have for a number of years had too many small players through the spine of our team. N’Golo Kante is minuscule yet the finest defensive midfielder on the planet currently. You don’t need brute strength if you’ve got the brain. Beat me too it. |
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Post by yyy on May 14, 2021 20:13:12 GMT
Don't know anything about either but I like the sound of the lad from Motherwell myself
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Post by slicko on May 14, 2021 21:59:38 GMT
I remember Ryan and his mate Jake playing for Penkhull Yellows on The Croft about ten years back. Who’d have thought…
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Post by ChesterStokie on May 14, 2021 22:56:14 GMT
Back in the day when I did my English Language O Level you were penalised one mark for every spelling or grammatical error. He would have lost 7 marks there! I only made it 6 because I counted the misplaced comma as a single mistake. I'm obviously getting far too easygoing in my dotage!  I counted the missing question mark after 'jones' and the lack of capital T in the next word 'they' as two mistakes, which maybe is a bit harsh. Let's agree on -6. PS I had to look up the meaning of your word 'dotage'. In all seriousness I did not know what it meant!!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 23:11:02 GMT
N’Golo Kante is minuscule yet the finest defensive midfielder on the planet currently. You don’t need brute strength if you’ve got the brain. Beat me too it. Prob the best since Gatusso for me. Fits the same bill. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 14, 2021 23:14:54 GMT
Prob the best since Gatusso for me. Fits the same bill. Kante pisses all over Gatusso |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 23:20:51 GMT
Prob the best since Gatusso for me. Fits the same bill. Kante pisses all over Gatusso A bit unhygienic Both great players, Gatusso two time CL winner and not really a debate over who is the best. just a comparison in build and the role they do |
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Post by PotteringThrough on May 14, 2021 23:27:13 GMT
Kante pisses all over Gatusso A bit unhygienic Both great players, Gatusso two time CL winner and not really a debate over who is the best. just a comparison in build and the role they do I’ll chuck Makelele in there for a laugh... Was he before or after or a contemporary of Gattuso? Also not the biggest but another master. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 14, 2021 23:35:37 GMT
He's my favourite Crewe player, a fantastic holding midfielder who is a great passer and makes everything tick. He can also play centre back comfortably. I'd sign him in a heart beat, much better than anything we've got in his position. sounds a bit like a Tom Huddlestone type? Yeah, you could say that. He's a very intelligent footballer and doesn't need to be built like a brick shit house to do his job. |
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Post by s7oke on May 15, 2021 3:34:34 GMT
Prob the best since Gatusso for me. Fits the same bill. Kante pisses all over Gatusso If he did Gattuso would smash him 😁 Personally prefer Gattuso as he’s as mad as a box of frogs and unpredictable. Also if I was in the trenches I would prefer Gattuso with me than against me even if he is Italian and may switch sides. Kante is French so if it wasn’t for us he may have been German. But seriously kante is a great player just not who I would choose |
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Post by s7oke on May 15, 2021 3:43:20 GMT
Would be a good signing if he signed and wouldn't mind Kirk as well. Kirk is a great player Has potential but would need a bit more coaching to bring him up to championship standard still slightly raw. But definitely one we should take a gamble on if available for the right price |
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Post by Etain Tur-Mukan on May 15, 2021 7:28:16 GMT
Prob the best since Gatusso for me. Fits the same bill. Kante pisses all over Gatusso I'd go with Javier Mascherano over both of them! |
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Post by ohbottom on May 15, 2021 7:36:21 GMT
I suppose in the context he could've been saying we should be playing them together more often because when we do we score 3? TBF, he was only about 15 when he wrote this; I thought much the same at the time and I'm nearly 40 years older than him  Reading that match report you linked, the sentence "They [Stoke] possess the Premier League's longest unbeaten home record..." nearly made me cry thinking how far we've fallen. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 15, 2021 8:11:02 GMT
Kante pisses all over Gatusso I'd go with Javier Mascherano over both of them! I suppose with a bit of make up and 6 inch heels who knows🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 15, 2021 8:39:56 GMT
Would be a good signing if he signed and wouldn't mind Kirk as well. Kirk is a great player Has potential but would need a bit more coaching to bring him up to championship standard still slightly raw. But definitely one we should take a gamble on if available for the right price They may have to sell Kirk soon as he's out of contract next summer, he's had another good seeason but has been overshadowed this season by Owen Dale on the right wing who's scored 12 goals and has more pace. Tom Lowery (midfielder) has also had a great season |
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Post by clarkeda on May 15, 2021 9:23:51 GMT
Don't know anything about either but I like the sound of the lad from Motherwell myself Both would probably completely transform us and provide us with a functioning midfield. Wintle sitting and setting up attacks with Campbell being all action. |
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Post by yyy on May 15, 2021 10:01:19 GMT
Don't know anything about either but I like the sound of the lad from Motherwell myself Both would probably completely transform us and provide us with a functioning midfield. Wintle sitting and setting up attacks with Campbell being all action. Thought it would be one or the other, can't see any of Thompson , Allen or Mikel leaving |
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Post by gingerninja on May 15, 2021 10:24:23 GMT
Can certainly see Allen leaving, in fact if he has a decent Euro's(if fit,) I would be amazed if Swansea don't sign him.
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