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Post by felonious on Apr 7, 2021 18:30:40 GMT
Ooops. This must hurt. Isn't it a bugger when a Home Office report doesn't fit with your prejudices? The link is a Guardian interpretation of the report. This is an extract from the report I believe reproduced by BJR earlier. 76. A number of papers have reported on offender ethnicity in group-based CSE, typically as part of wider research in this space. Findings from these are summarised below: a. CEOP (2011) undertook a data collection with police forces, children’s services and specialist providers from the voluntary sector, looking at those allegedly involved in ‘street grooming’ and CSE. Data was returned on approximately 2,300 possible offenders, but approximately 1,100 were excluded from analysis due to a lack of basic information. In the remaining 1,200 cases, ethnicity data was unknown for 38% of them. Where data was available 30% of offenders were White, while 28% were Asian. Due to the amount of missing data, both basic offender information and ethnicity specifically, these figures should be treated with caution. b. Berelowitz et al. (2012) collected data from a range of agencies including local authorities, police forces and voluntary sector organisations on individuals known to be exploiting children. Around 1,500 individuals were identified, but there was no data on ethnicity for 21% of them. Where data was available, ‘White’ was the largest category. However, it should be noted that this data relates to a time period at least ten years ago when many agencies were less familiar with CSE. This work also did not distinguish between groups and gangs. c. In 2013 CEOP undertook a second piece of work in this space. Data was requested from all police forces in England and Wales on contact CSA, and responses were received from 31. Of the 52 groups where data provided was useable, half of the groups consisted of all Asian offenders, 11 were all White offenders, 4 were all Black, and 2 were exclusively Arab. There were nine groups where offenders came from a mix of ethnic backgrounds. Looking at the offenders across all groups, of the 306 offenders 75% were Asian. However, as with CEOP (2011) these figures should be treated with caution due to the amount of missing data. d. The Children’s Commissioner for England carried out work in 2014 looking at police data on CSE offenders (Berelowitz et al., 2015). Data was provided by 19 out of 43 police forces, showing nearly 4,000 offenders, 1,200 of whom were involved in group-based CSE. This study found that 42% were White or White British, 17% were Black or Black British, 14% were Asian or Asian British, and 4% had another ethnicity. No data on ethnicity was recorded in 22% of cases. As above (Berelowitz et al., 2012), it should be noted that when this work was carried out when many agencies were less familiar with CSE, and very little was recognised or recorded about this kind of offence or offender by police at the time. e. Lastly, the Police Foundation (Skidmore, 2016) looked at group-based CSE in Bristol, and found that those from ethnic minority backgrounds were over-represented compared to the local area. However, they note that this is likely magnified by skewed and incomplete data It refers to England and Wales therefore the figures are diluted compared to hotspots like Rochdale. May I ask do you believe that there were more white offenders in places like Rochdale?
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Post by Orbs on Apr 7, 2021 18:33:17 GMT
I'm just pleased it's finally been admitted. Thanks again for realising that it's not just a Muslim/Pakistani issue. Phew. Don’t know what your agenda is but hey I don’t have a problem if you want to defend these men that’s your choice , there are groomers of every colour and nationality including women to , this thread is about why these men have not been deported back to Pakistan The ‘agenda’ as you put it is balance. The casual racism and anti-Muslim rhetoric that permeates this board grows daily. Certain posters can’t wait to create threads and post messages that show clear prejudice. I’m just trying to point out that these disgusting and abhorrent crimes are not just perpetrated by Muslims. That’s it. Find me where I’ve defended the men please. I’ll wait...
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Post by Orbs on Apr 7, 2021 18:45:55 GMT
Ooops. This must hurt. Isn't it a bugger when a Home Office report doesn't fit with your prejudices? The link is a Guardian interpretation of the report. This is an extract from the report I believe reproduced by BJR earlier. 76. A number of papers have reported on offender ethnicity in group-based CSE, typically as part of wider research in this space. Findings from these are summarised below: a. CEOP (2011) undertook a data collection with police forces, children’s services and specialist providers from the voluntary sector, looking at those allegedly involved in ‘street grooming’ and CSE. Data was returned on approximately 2,300 possible offenders, but approximately 1,100 were excluded from analysis due to a lack of basic information. In the remaining 1,200 cases, ethnicity data was unknown for 38% of them. Where data was available 30% of offenders were White, while 28% were Asian. Due to the amount of missing data, both basic offender information and ethnicity specifically, these figures should be treated with caution. b. Berelowitz et al. (2012) collected data from a range of agencies including local authorities, police forces and voluntary sector organisations on individuals known to be exploiting children. Around 1,500 individuals were identified, but there was no data on ethnicity for 21% of them. Where data was available, ‘White’ was the largest category. However, it should be noted that this data relates to a time period at least ten years ago when many agencies were less familiar with CSE. This work also did not distinguish between groups and gangs. c. In 2013 CEOP undertook a second piece of work in this space. Data was requested from all police forces in England and Wales on contact CSA, and responses were received from 31. Of the 52 groups where data provided was useable, half of the groups consisted of all Asian offenders, 11 were all White offenders, 4 were all Black, and 2 were exclusively Arab. There were nine groups where offenders came from a mix of ethnic backgrounds. Looking at the offenders across all groups, of the 306 offenders 75% were Asian. However, as with CEOP (2011) these figures should be treated with caution due to the amount of missing data. d. The Children’s Commissioner for England carried out work in 2014 looking at police data on CSE offenders (Berelowitz et al., 2015). Data was provided by 19 out of 43 police forces, showing nearly 4,000 offenders, 1,200 of whom were involved in group-based CSE. This study found that 42% were White or White British, 17% were Black or Black British, 14% were Asian or Asian British, and 4% had another ethnicity. No data on ethnicity was recorded in 22% of cases. As above (Berelowitz et al., 2012), it should be noted that when this work was carried out when many agencies were less familiar with CSE, and very little was recognised or recorded about this kind of offence or offender by police at the time. e. Lastly, the Police Foundation (Skidmore, 2016) looked at group-based CSE in Bristol, and found that those from ethnic minority backgrounds were over-represented compared to the local area. However, they note that this is likely magnified by skewed and incomplete data It refers to England and Wales therefore the figures are diluted compared to hotspots like Rochdale. May I ask do you believe that there were more white offenders in places like Rochdale? I’m not sure you’re actually reading my posts. All I’ve done is try to get certain posters to admit these despicable and abhorrent crimes are not solely down to Muslim/Asian/Pakistanis. That’s it.
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Post by foster on Apr 7, 2021 19:20:23 GMT
The link is a Guardian interpretation of the report. This is an extract from the report I believe reproduced by BJR earlier. 76. A number of papers have reported on offender ethnicity in group-based CSE, typically as part of wider research in this space. Findings from these are summarised below: a. CEOP (2011) undertook a data collection with police forces, children’s services and specialist providers from the voluntary sector, looking at those allegedly involved in ‘street grooming’ and CSE. Data was returned on approximately 2,300 possible offenders, but approximately 1,100 were excluded from analysis due to a lack of basic information. In the remaining 1,200 cases, ethnicity data was unknown for 38% of them. Where data was available 30% of offenders were White, while 28% were Asian. Due to the amount of missing data, both basic offender information and ethnicity specifically, these figures should be treated with caution. b. Berelowitz et al. (2012) collected data from a range of agencies including local authorities, police forces and voluntary sector organisations on individuals known to be exploiting children. Around 1,500 individuals were identified, but there was no data on ethnicity for 21% of them. Where data was available, ‘White’ was the largest category. However, it should be noted that this data relates to a time period at least ten years ago when many agencies were less familiar with CSE. This work also did not distinguish between groups and gangs. c. In 2013 CEOP undertook a second piece of work in this space. Data was requested from all police forces in England and Wales on contact CSA, and responses were received from 31. Of the 52 groups where data provided was useable, half of the groups consisted of all Asian offenders, 11 were all White offenders, 4 were all Black, and 2 were exclusively Arab. There were nine groups where offenders came from a mix of ethnic backgrounds. Looking at the offenders across all groups, of the 306 offenders 75% were Asian. However, as with CEOP (2011) these figures should be treated with caution due to the amount of missing data. d. The Children’s Commissioner for England carried out work in 2014 looking at police data on CSE offenders (Berelowitz et al., 2015). Data was provided by 19 out of 43 police forces, showing nearly 4,000 offenders, 1,200 of whom were involved in group-based CSE. This study found that 42% were White or White British, 17% were Black or Black British, 14% were Asian or Asian British, and 4% had another ethnicity. No data on ethnicity was recorded in 22% of cases. As above (Berelowitz et al., 2012), it should be noted that when this work was carried out when many agencies were less familiar with CSE, and very little was recognised or recorded about this kind of offence or offender by police at the time. e. Lastly, the Police Foundation (Skidmore, 2016) looked at group-based CSE in Bristol, and found that those from ethnic minority backgrounds were over-represented compared to the local area. However, they note that this is likely magnified by skewed and incomplete data It refers to England and Wales therefore the figures are diluted compared to hotspots like Rochdale. May I ask do you believe that there were more white offenders in places like Rochdale? I’m not sure you’re actually reading my posts. All I’ve done is try to get certain posters to admit these despicable and abhorrent crimes are not solely down to Muslim/Asian/Pakistanis. That’s it. Not sure if you included me in that category of posters or not but I have actually read the report. ... And at no point have I said that these crimes are down to a specific religion, race or nationality.
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Post by Orbs on Apr 7, 2021 19:29:14 GMT
I’m not sure you’re actually reading my posts. All I’ve done is try to get certain posters to admit these despicable and abhorrent crimes are not solely down to Muslim/Asian/Pakistanis. That’s it. Not sure if you included me in that category of posters or not but I have actually read the report. ... And at no point have I said that these crimes are down to a specific religion, race or nationality. No mate - not you. Apologies if you thought that. Maybe ‘posters’ is unfair - ‘poster’ might be more accurate.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 7, 2021 20:43:13 GMT
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2021 7:11:24 GMT
The link is a Guardian interpretation of the report. This is an extract from the report I believe reproduced by BJR earlier. 76. A number of papers have reported on offender ethnicity in group-based CSE, typically as part of wider research in this space. Findings from these are summarised below: a. CEOP (2011) undertook a data collection with police forces, children’s services and specialist providers from the voluntary sector, looking at those allegedly involved in ‘street grooming’ and CSE. Data was returned on approximately 2,300 possible offenders, but approximately 1,100 were excluded from analysis due to a lack of basic information. In the remaining 1,200 cases, ethnicity data was unknown for 38% of them. Where data was available 30% of offenders were White, while 28% were Asian. Due to the amount of missing data, both basic offender information and ethnicity specifically, these figures should be treated with caution. b. Berelowitz et al. (2012) collected data from a range of agencies including local authorities, police forces and voluntary sector organisations on individuals known to be exploiting children. Around 1,500 individuals were identified, but there was no data on ethnicity for 21% of them. Where data was available, ‘White’ was the largest category. However, it should be noted that this data relates to a time period at least ten years ago when many agencies were less familiar with CSE. This work also did not distinguish between groups and gangs. c. In 2013 CEOP undertook a second piece of work in this space. Data was requested from all police forces in England and Wales on contact CSA, and responses were received from 31. Of the 52 groups where data provided was useable, half of the groups consisted of all Asian offenders, 11 were all White offenders, 4 were all Black, and 2 were exclusively Arab. There were nine groups where offenders came from a mix of ethnic backgrounds. Looking at the offenders across all groups, of the 306 offenders 75% were Asian. However, as with CEOP (2011) these figures should be treated with caution due to the amount of missing data. d. The Children’s Commissioner for England carried out work in 2014 looking at police data on CSE offenders (Berelowitz et al., 2015). Data was provided by 19 out of 43 police forces, showing nearly 4,000 offenders, 1,200 of whom were involved in group-based CSE. This study found that 42% were White or White British, 17% were Black or Black British, 14% were Asian or Asian British, and 4% had another ethnicity. No data on ethnicity was recorded in 22% of cases. As above (Berelowitz et al., 2012), it should be noted that when this work was carried out when many agencies were less familiar with CSE, and very little was recognised or recorded about this kind of offence or offender by police at the time. e. Lastly, the Police Foundation (Skidmore, 2016) looked at group-based CSE in Bristol, and found that those from ethnic minority backgrounds were over-represented compared to the local area. However, they note that this is likely magnified by skewed and incomplete data It refers to England and Wales therefore the figures are diluted compared to hotspots like Rochdale. May I ask do you believe that there were more white offenders in places like Rochdale? I’m not sure you’re actually reading my posts. All I’ve done is try to get certain posters to admit these despicable and abhorrent crimes are not solely down to Muslim/Asian/Pakistanis. That’s it. I'm reading your posts Orbs and if this thread was about England and Wales as a whole you'd have some sort of a point but it isn't it's about Rochdale the clue being in the thread title. I appreciate that you're obsessively following Crappy around the board these days but I was just trying to help you with some facts on the matter being discussed. As far as Rochdale is concerned it does appear to be a mainly ethnic Pakistani issue. These threads always go the way of white males are the biggest offender, look at what the Catholic church has done, look at the Church of England and there are threads on these perverts. I even started one myself on the Church of England. This particular case was a spectacular multi agency failure taking in both local and national government. The fact that Rochdale was only one town of many is harrowing. I finally watched in horror the three parts of Footballs darkest secret last week and the bit that stuck with me was that poor mother saying that every parent can only be as happy as their saddest child. Just sit back and imagine how many parents that applies to in Rochdale and then take into account that all those protection agencies that we rely on to keep our children safe were turning a blind eye. It's an absolute scandal. Hope this helps but please feel free to send me a PM if you're struggling
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Post by Orbs on Apr 8, 2021 7:34:09 GMT
I’m not sure you’re actually reading my posts. All I’ve done is try to get certain posters to admit these despicable and abhorrent crimes are not solely down to Muslim/Asian/Pakistanis. That’s it. I'm reading your posts Orbs and if this thread was about England and Wales as a whole you'd have some sort of a point but it isn't it's about Rochdale the clue being in the thread title. I appreciate that you're obsessively following Crappy around the board these days but I was just trying to help you with some facts on the matter being discussed. As far as Rochdale is concerned it does appear to be a mainly ethnic Pakistani issue. These threads always go the way of white males are the biggest offender, look at what the Catholic church has done, look at the Church of England and there are threads on these perverts. I even started one myself on the Church of England. This particular case was a spectacular multi agency failure taking in both local and national government. The fact that Rochdale was only one town of many is harrowing. I finally watched in horror the three parts of Footballs darkest secret last week and the bit that stuck with me was that poor mother saying that every parent can only be as happy as their saddest child. Just sit back and imagine how many parents that applies to in Rochdale and then take into account that all those protection agencies that we rely on to keep our children safe were turning a blind eye. It's an absolute scandal. Hope this helps but please feel free to send me a PM if you're struggling I don’t disagree in the slightest with anything you’ve said.
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2021 8:20:09 GMT
I'm reading your posts Orbs and if this thread was about England and Wales as a whole you'd have some sort of a point but it isn't it's about Rochdale the clue being in the thread title. I appreciate that you're obsessively following Crappy around the board these days but I was just trying to help you with some facts on the matter being discussed. As far as Rochdale is concerned it does appear to be a mainly ethnic Pakistani issue. These threads always go the way of white males are the biggest offender, look at what the Catholic church has done, look at the Church of England and there are threads on these perverts. I even started one myself on the Church of England. This particular case was a spectacular multi agency failure taking in both local and national government. The fact that Rochdale was only one town of many is harrowing. I finally watched in horror the three parts of Footballs darkest secret last week and the bit that stuck with me was that poor mother saying that every parent can only be as happy as their saddest child. Just sit back and imagine how many parents that applies to in Rochdale and then take into account that all those protection agencies that we rely on to keep our children safe were turning a blind eye. It's an absolute scandal. Hope this helps but please feel free to send me a PM if you're struggling I don’t disagree in the slightest with anything you’ve said. Thank fuck for that
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 8, 2021 8:23:22 GMT
I’m not sure you’re actually reading my posts. All I’ve done is try to get certain posters to admit these despicable and abhorrent crimes are not solely down to Muslim/Asian/Pakistanis. That’s it. I'm reading your posts Orbs and if this thread was about England and Wales as a whole you'd have some sort of a point but it isn't it's about Rochdale the clue being in the thread title. I appreciate that you're obsessively following Crappy around the board these days but I was just trying to help you with some facts on the matter being discussed. As far as Rochdale is concerned it does appear to be a mainly ethnic Pakistani issue. These threads always go the way of white males are the biggest offender, look at what the Catholic church has done, look at the Church of England and there are threads on these perverts. I even started one myself on the Church of England. This particular case was a spectacular multi agency failure taking in both local and national government. The fact that Rochdale was only one town of many is harrowing. I finally watched in horror the three parts of Footballs darkest secret last week and the bit that stuck with me was that poor mother saying that every parent can only be as happy as their saddest child. Just sit back and imagine how many parents that applies to in Rochdale and then take into account that all those protection agencies that we rely on to keep our children safe were turning a blind eye. It's an absolute scandal. Hope this helps but please feel free to send me a PM if you're struggling Deflection tactics the tool of the desperate left wing to somehow excuse the actions of these filthy paedophiles in Rochdale, 84% of the population are White British are 84% of the sick perverts raping kids in Rochdale white British ?
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2021 8:31:57 GMT
I'm reading your posts Orbs and if this thread was about England and Wales as a whole you'd have some sort of a point but it isn't it's about Rochdale the clue being in the thread title. I appreciate that you're obsessively following Crappy around the board these days but I was just trying to help you with some facts on the matter being discussed. As far as Rochdale is concerned it does appear to be a mainly ethnic Pakistani issue. These threads always go the way of white males are the biggest offender, look at what the Catholic church has done, look at the Church of England and there are threads on these perverts. I even started one myself on the Church of England. This particular case was a spectacular multi agency failure taking in both local and national government. The fact that Rochdale was only one town of many is harrowing. I finally watched in horror the three parts of Footballs darkest secret last week and the bit that stuck with me was that poor mother saying that every parent can only be as happy as their saddest child. Just sit back and imagine how many parents that applies to in Rochdale and then take into account that all those protection agencies that we rely on to keep our children safe were turning a blind eye. It's an absolute scandal. Hope this helps but please feel free to send me a PM if you're struggling Deflection tactics the tool of the desperate left wing to somehow excuse the actions of these filthy paedophiles in Rochdale, 84% of the population are White British are 84% of the sick perverts raping kids in Rochdale white British ? Can you do me a big favour Crappy and stop quoting me and liking my posts. I've got lifelong mates now asking me when my next Britain First march is I'm well capable of getting into shit without your help
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 8, 2021 8:40:57 GMT
Deflection tactics the tool of the desperate left wing to somehow excuse the actions of these filthy paedophiles in Rochdale, 84% of the population are White British are 84% of the sick perverts raping kids in Rochdale white British ? Can you do me a big favour Crappy and stop quoting me and liking my posts. I've got lifelong mates now asking me when my next Britain First march is I'm well capable of getting into shit without your help You have mates
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2021 10:55:30 GMT
Can you do me a big favour Crappy and stop quoting me and liking my posts. I've got lifelong mates now asking me when my next Britain First march is I'm well capable of getting into shit without your help You have mates A failure on both counts, why am I not surprised
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Post by Orbs on Apr 8, 2021 10:58:09 GMT
You have mates A failure on both counts, why am I not surprised
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 9, 2021 8:45:35 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 9, 2021 18:25:49 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 9, 2021 19:02:01 GMT
Executed by a female halal method then feed his body to a herd of hungry pigs.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 24, 2021 19:00:37 GMT
I'm just watching Three Girls. It's currently on Netflix. The absolute horror these girls went through. It's awful and these men are now bobbing about living a normal life? These men basically tortured these poor girls and I am aware that this show painted a far cleaner picture of reality. Some girls were never seen again during this despicable ordeal.
Obviously a big shout out to the police in this who have acted like a bunch of despicable and corrupt goons. To think, not a single of these bent coppers were prosecuted. All allowed to retire on their nice cushy pensions etc. Disgusting.
Oh... And the CPS. They can fuck right off too.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 24, 2021 20:51:42 GMT
I'm just watching Three Girls. It's currently on Netflix. The absolute horror these girls went through. It's awful and these men are now bobbing about living a normal life? These men basically tortured these poor girls and I am aware that this show painted a far cleaner picture of reality. Some girls were never seen again during this despicable ordeal. Obviously a big shout out to the police in this who have acted like a bunch of despicable and corrupt goons. To think, not a single of these bent coppers were prosecuted. All allowed to retire on their nice cushy pensions etc. Disgusting. Oh... And the CPS. They can fuck right off too. Something tells me you have an inherent hatred of our police force, much more than most rational folk. Why is that?
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Post by metalhead on Apr 24, 2021 20:56:25 GMT
I'm just watching Three Girls. It's currently on Netflix. The absolute horror these girls went through. It's awful and these men are now bobbing about living a normal life? These men basically tortured these poor girls and I am aware that this show painted a far cleaner picture of reality. Some girls were never seen again during this despicable ordeal. Obviously a big shout out to the police in this who have acted like a bunch of despicable and corrupt goons. To think, not a single of these bent coppers were prosecuted. All allowed to retire on their nice cushy pensions etc. Disgusting. Oh... And the CPS. They can fuck right off too. Something tells me you have an inherent hatred of our police force, much more than most rational folk. Why is that? Most rational folk lol? Is there any bother discussing it when you insult me in the very question?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 24, 2021 21:08:08 GMT
Something tells me you have an inherent hatred of our police force, much more than most rational folk. Why is that? Most rational folk lol? Is there any bother discussing it when you insult me in the very question? Not really
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Post by metalhead on Apr 24, 2021 21:15:23 GMT
Most rational folk lol? Is there any bother discussing it when you insult me in the very question? Not really Firstly, my opinion is perfectly rational, it's just one you disagree with. I am allowed an opinion, whether you agree with it or not. Furthermore, I've seen some of the bollocks you've posted on this forum in the past... I could give you an educational bitch slap on the majority of topics that take place, so perhaps it's best we not get too deep into any discussion eh? Secondly, I'm just at the part where the police used an innocent girls evidence by naming her as a co-conspirator on various sexual abuse charges.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 24, 2021 21:35:51 GMT
Firstly, my opinion is perfectly rational, it's just one you disagree with. I am allowed an opinion, whether you agree with it or not. Furthermore, I've seen some of the bollocks you've posted on this forum in the past... I could give you an educational bitch slap on the majority of topics that take place, so perhaps it's best we not get too deep into any discussion eh? Secondly, I'm just at the part where the police used an innocent girls evidence by naming her as a co-conspirator on various sexual abuse charges. Haha sanctimonious much? I don’t take this forum seriously enough to start droning on about stuff to get a rather blinkered point across. You’ve got some seriously bigoted views about the police, I can feel the resentment. Have a nice evening.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 24, 2021 21:59:14 GMT
Firstly, my opinion is perfectly rational, it's just one you disagree with. I am allowed an opinion, whether you agree with it or not. Furthermore, I've seen some of the bollocks you've posted on this forum in the past... I could give you an educational bitch slap on the majority of topics that take place, so perhaps it's best we not get too deep into any discussion eh? Secondly, I'm just at the part where the police used an innocent girls evidence by naming her as a co-conspirator on various sexual abuse charges. Haha sanctimonious much? I don’t take this forum seriously enough to start droning on about stuff to get a rather blinkered point across. You’ve got some seriously bigoted views about the police, I can feel the resentment. Have a nice evening. I have a strong opinion on the subject, it doesn't make it bigoted. You've been listening to franklin.
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Post by felonious on Apr 25, 2021 6:22:16 GMT
Firstly, my opinion is perfectly rational, it's just one you disagree with. I am allowed an opinion, whether you agree with it or not. Furthermore, I've seen some of the bollocks you've posted on this forum in the past... I could give you an educational bitch slap on the majority of topics that take place, so perhaps it's best we not get too deep into any discussion eh? Secondly, I'm just at the part where the police used an innocent girls evidence by naming her as a co-conspirator on various sexual abuse charges. Perhaps when you've got through the programme Metal you can come back to this thread and give your considered opinion on the involvement of the local social services, teaching profession, local council, local community leaders, not forgetting governments and national parties. The police were only part of this disgrace.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 25, 2021 7:05:43 GMT
Firstly, my opinion is perfectly rational, it's just one you disagree with. I am allowed an opinion, whether you agree with it or not. Furthermore, I've seen some of the bollocks you've posted on this forum in the past... I could give you an educational bitch slap on the majority of topics that take place, so perhaps it's best we not get too deep into any discussion eh? Secondly, I'm just at the part where the police used an innocent girls evidence by naming her as a co-conspirator on various sexual abuse charges. Perhaps when you've got through the programme Metal you can come back to this thread and give your considered opinion on the involvement of the local social services, teaching profession, local council, local community leaders, not forgetting governments and national parties. The police were only part of this disgrace. It would be interesting to know how much the teachers were truly aware of. You have to remember, teachers are seen as cartoon villains and are rarely where kids go to talk about things. There's also the possibility that those teachers who did take their concerns further, albeit from hearsay alone, were blocked at the first hurdle by social services and the police. On that point, social services? Shameful. Utterly shameful. Perhaps the only other organisation that could do with their funding cutting as punishment for their repeated failures which continue to this day. To call these poor girls prostitutes, at 15, is one of our darkest episodes in history. To then throw the sexual health clinic under the bus by suggesting they weren't aware when 181 referrals were made to police and social services. Shameful. Local community leaders and by that, do you mean the local Imams? Sounds like they just turned and looked the other way... Pure and simple.
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 25, 2021 9:20:20 GMT
I'm just watching Three Girls. It's currently on Netflix. The absolute horror these girls went through. It's awful and these men are now bobbing about living a normal life? These men basically tortured these poor girls and I am aware that this show painted a far cleaner picture of reality. Some girls were never seen again during this despicable ordeal. Obviously a big shout out to the police in this who have acted like a bunch of despicable and corrupt goons. To think, not a single of these bent coppers were prosecuted. All allowed to retire on their nice cushy pensions etc. Disgusting. Oh... And the CPS. They can fuck right off too. I wonder who was in charge of the CPS
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 25, 2021 9:39:57 GMT
Perhaps when you've got through the programme Metal you can come back to this thread and give your considered opinion on the involvement of the local social services, teaching profession, local council, local community leaders, not forgetting governments and national parties. The police were only part of this disgrace. It would be interesting to know how much the teachers were truly aware of. You have to remember, teachers are seen as cartoon villains and are rarely where kids go to talk about things. There's also the possibility that those teachers who did take their concerns further, albeit from hearsay alone, were blocked at the first hurdle by social services and the police. On that point, social services? Shameful. Utterly shameful. Perhaps the only other organisation that could do with their funding cutting as punishment for their repeated failures which continue to this day. To call these poor girls prostitutes, at 15, is one of our darkest episodes in history. To then throw the sexual health clinic under the bus by suggesting they weren't aware when 181 referrals were made to police and social services. Shameful. Local community leaders and by that, do you mean the local Imams? Sounds like they just turned and looked the other way... Pure and simple. Not one of those complicit in this cover up has been charged with any offence, strange that.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 25, 2021 12:11:38 GMT
I'm just watching Three Girls. It's currently on Netflix. The absolute horror these girls went through. It's awful and these men are now bobbing about living a normal life? These men basically tortured these poor girls and I am aware that this show painted a far cleaner picture of reality. Some girls were never seen again during this despicable ordeal. Obviously a big shout out to the police in this who have acted like a bunch of despicable and corrupt goons. To think, not a single of these bent coppers were prosecuted. All allowed to retire on their nice cushy pensions etc. Disgusting. Oh... And the CPS. They can fuck right off too. I wonder who was in charge of the CPS Here’s a clue his name begins with S and ends in tarmer. Think he may have got knighted for his service to rapists and paedophiles.
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Post by felonious on Apr 25, 2021 13:03:04 GMT
Perhaps when you've got through the programme Metal you can come back to this thread and give your considered opinion on the involvement of the local social services, teaching profession, local council, local community leaders, not forgetting governments and national parties. The police were only part of this disgrace. It would be interesting to know how much the teachers were truly aware of. You have to remember, teachers are seen as cartoon villains and are rarely where kids go to talk about things. There's also the possibility that those teachers who did take their concerns further, albeit from hearsay alone, were blocked at the first hurdle by social services and the police. On that point, social services? Shameful. Utterly shameful. Perhaps the only other organisation that could do with their funding cutting as punishment for their repeated failures which continue to this day. To call these poor girls prostitutes, at 15, is one of our darkest episodes in history. To then throw the sexual health clinic under the bus by suggesting they weren't aware when 181 referrals were made to police and social services. Shameful. Local community leaders and by that, do you mean the local Imams? Sounds like they just turned and looked the other way... Pure and simple. From wiki. Ann Cryer, Labour MP for Keighley, recalled in a BBC documentary filmed in 2012 that she had worked with the families of the victims involved, and had been "round at the police station virtually every week" and was "begging" both the police and social services to do something. Cryer said, "Neither the police nor social services would touch those cases. I think it was because they were afraid of being called racist."[30] Cryer had attempted to reach the Muslim community and persuade it to take action: "I went to a friend of mine, who was a local councillor and happened to be a Muslim and therefore able to represent me to the elders, because I thought it was a good move to try to get those elders involved. I hoped that I would be able to persuade the elders to go knocking on doors and say 'this behaviour is un-Islamic and I want it to stop because I'm going to tell the whole community about you and what you’re doing if you don’t'. Now they weren’t prepared to do that".en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring
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