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Post by robstokie on Feb 17, 2021 23:21:15 GMT
Ball, Jordan, Bates, Kamara, Little, Quiterill (results weren't great and left us in a mess, but moreso for his departure), Lambert, Rowett, Jones - so many poor managers (and that's just over the last 30 years!! But who is the worst of the lot?
In my opinion it has to be Mad Nath with Ball a close second. To have half a season as a free hit to prepare for the following season then to take us so far backwards through a mix of poor recruitment, adherence to a system that clearly didn't work, atrocious man management, bullshit and excuses every week followed by a mask of bravado that failed to hide his ineptness. 8 points from 14 with a team that was expected to challenge up the right end wasn't just relegation form, but an embarrassment - honestly think he had stayed the season, we would have been down by February and struggling to stay up in league 1. What MON achieved with the same group was nothing short of a miracle
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Post by lordb on Feb 17, 2021 23:25:57 GMT
Ball and Little Jones didn't get the opportunity to lose div 3 games at home by 4 goals every other week
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 23:27:34 GMT
Ball, Jordan, Bates, Kamara, Little, Quiterill (results weren't great and left us in a mess, but moreso for his departure), Lambert, Rowett, Jones - so many poor managers (and that's just over the last 30 years!! But who is the worst of the lot? In my opinion it has to be Mad Nath with Ball a close second. To have half a season as a free hit to prepare for the following season then to take us so far backwards through a mix of poor recruitment, adherence to a system that clearly didn't work, atrocious man management, bullshit and excuses every week followed by a mask of bravado that failed to hide his ineptness. 8 points from 14 with a team that was expected to challenge up the right end wasn't just relegation form, but an embarrassment - honestly think he had stayed the season, we would have been down by February and struggling to stay up in league 1. What MON achieved with the same group was nothing short of a miracle can't argue with that.Jordan had an ok home record, don't think Kamara's team were as bad as some made out, a few games we played ok but got nothing. not saying they were good mind you. Ball was just diabolical.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 17, 2021 23:35:01 GMT
I was never a huge fan of Ritchie Barker after he went route one but we’ve had far worse since. I’d go
Jones Ball Kamara
Shame re Kamara as I loved him as a player and he’s a great character.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Feb 17, 2021 23:39:46 GMT
Tough to choose between Jones and Ball for me.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Feb 17, 2021 23:39:58 GMT
Ball and Jones were more than awful. Kamara is close behind.
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Post by Picasso on Feb 18, 2021 0:10:38 GMT
Ball and Little Jones didn't get the opportunity to lose div 3 games at home by 4 goals every other week Fittingly, they all sound like part of a comedy double act. You can add Barker in there, too. Probably, Kamara wins it, though I do like him. ... And it’s goodnight from me 🤓
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2021 0:29:57 GMT
Nathan Jones, next.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 18, 2021 0:35:57 GMT
Jones, by an almost immeasurable distance.
God willing.
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Post by sergeifaye on Feb 18, 2021 0:45:24 GMT
Ball, Jordan, Bates, Kamara, Little, Quiterill (results weren't great and left us in a mess, but moreso for his departure), Lambert, Rowett, Jones - so many poor managers (and that's just over the last 30 years!! But who is the worst of the lot? In my opinion it has to be Mad Nath with Ball a close second. To have half a season as a free hit to prepare for the following season then to take us so far backwards through a mix of poor recruitment, adherence to a system that clearly didn't work, atrocious man management, bullshit and excuses every week followed by a mask of bravado that failed to hide his ineptness. 8 points from 14 with a team that was expected to challenge up the right end wasn't just relegation form, but an embarrassment - honestly think he had stayed the season, we would have been down by February and struggling to stay up in league 1. What MON achieved with the same group was nothing short of a miracle I was Jones's biggest critic when he was at Stoke and he was clearly out of his depth. But I will say this for him - he's doing a decent job at Luton and so he's clearly got some managerial talent. Albeit we didn't see any if it.
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Post by greenstokie on Feb 18, 2021 1:10:10 GMT
Has to be Ball. The only blot on his copybook, was that he didn't take us down to the fourth division.
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Post by thebasfordhedgehog on Feb 18, 2021 6:18:20 GMT
Between Harry Lockett or Alan Ball for me.
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Post by zerps on Feb 18, 2021 6:27:55 GMT
At least Jones gave a fuck. Not something you can say for some.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 6:41:15 GMT
Jones.
Given the players he had, and the uptick the minute he left showing what a joke he was - he’s comfortably the worst manager we’ve ever had.
Clueless, stubborn and all round pathetic.
May we never sink that low again.
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Post by themistocles on Feb 18, 2021 6:47:12 GMT
Has to be Rowett. The long term implications of his management far surpass the rest.
We'd be premier league with a semi competent manager with 50 million to spend
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Post by s7oke on Feb 18, 2021 7:17:27 GMT
Rowett as we are still paying the price and will do for a while yet A fraud of a manager who loved self importance No one wasted as much money on shit than him even hughesin his final few months Even Hughes had some saleable assets that he signed
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Post by stormin on Feb 18, 2021 7:30:13 GMT
Tough to choose between Jones and Ball for me.
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Feb 18, 2021 7:32:41 GMT
Mills Out
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Post by lennythegoose on Feb 18, 2021 7:34:49 GMT
Record-wise surely Bill Asprey has to be in contention although mitigating circumstances of our financial predicament at the time may prevent him lifting the trophy for this title.
I think he was pretty much a one man management team from memory and he did bring back Huddy and give us that Wolves game and the Man Utd Boxing Day.
Other than that, Ball or Jones - snake oil salesmen of the highest order.
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Post by stormin on Feb 18, 2021 7:35:09 GMT
Bill Asprey, Chic Bates, Boskamp, George Eastam all failed, and I rated Ritchie Barker, he bought in some ace players and played good football, the club management had a fire sale to pay for the Vic ground roof and pulled the rug from under his feet.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 18, 2021 7:57:12 GMT
Cheap option Chic was bad but has to be Jones total fraud.
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Post by wrighter on Feb 18, 2021 8:35:46 GMT
Feel sorry for Ball cant fault his dedication and hard work, but didnt have a clue s
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 18, 2021 8:40:00 GMT
Steve Cotterill
Not in results but in the way he left us in the lurch.
By far and away the worst manager we ever had.
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Post by Gods on Feb 18, 2021 8:45:58 GMT
Ball and Little Jones didn't get the opportunity to lose div 3 games at home by 4 goals every other week Don't get the Brian Little votes. He won 21 league matches that season and we finished 8th. Town Hall ticker-taper for MON this year if he pulls that off. And yes I know we lost to 9 man Millwall!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 18, 2021 8:53:31 GMT
Ball and Little Jones didn't get the opportunity to lose div 3 games at home by 4 goals every other week Don't get the Brian Little votes. He won 21 league matches that season and we finished 8th. Town Hall ticker-taper for MON this year if he pulls that off. And yes I know we lost to 9 man Millwall! Context counts for a lot though doesn't it? He was seen as a huge coup of an appointment. We started like a rocket without ever really quite convincing. His signings, limited though his budget undoubtedly was, were almost uniformly terrible. We lost 14 of our final 25 games that season, including numerous thrashing to the glamorous likes of Bristol Rovers and Gillingham. He never gave the impression he was especially arsed. I think Ball, Bates, Kamara and Jones were worse, but he's right in the mix for recent times.
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 18, 2021 9:07:27 GMT
Rowett by an absolute mile. Spent over 50M on absolute junk and has since gone to Millwall and took one of that junk with him, proving he has learned absolutely nothing.
The football was diabolical and he came across as a right arse to boot.
He spent the most any Stoke manager has ever spent in a single window and he absolutely blew it.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 18, 2021 9:41:51 GMT
Ball and Little Jones didn't get the opportunity to lose div 3 games at home by 4 goals every other week Don't get the Brian Little votes. He won 21 league matches that season and we finished 8th. Town Hall ticker-taper for MON this year if he pulls that off. And yes I know we lost to 9 man Millwall! It was in league 1?
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Post by march4 on Feb 18, 2021 9:43:25 GMT
A lot of candidates for this one.
How about Alan A’Court.
His reign lasted one match - against Blyth Spartans.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 18, 2021 9:45:40 GMT
Feel sorry for Ball cant fault his dedication and hard work, but didnt have a clue s Was he that dedicated? He arrogantly thought we'd walk the third division and said so publicly. Lou took the same group of players, made some shrewd, cheap signings and completely turned it around a year later, so it wasn't like he had nothing to work with?
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 18, 2021 9:46:22 GMT
Record-wise surely Bill Asprey has to be in contention although mitigating circumstances of our financial predicament at the time may prevent him lifting the trophy for this title. I think he was pretty much a one man management team from memory and he did bring back Huddy and give us that Wolves game and the Man Utd Boxing Day. Other than that, Ball or Jones - snake oil salesmen of the highest order. The only inside information I’ve seen on Bill Asprey’s time at Stoke was in Dudley Kernick’s book. Saying that Stoke was like a ‘non league set up’ and Asprey bore an ‘incredible workload’. Stoke also didn’t have a pot to piss in, they were that broke. There was only one player signed for cash that season (Keith Bertschin) only because they sold Robbie James. Senior players had been given free transfers, or sold to be replaced by inexperienced youth players, cheap loans (Wayne Eubanks, Tony Spearing for example). Tony Spearing had the distinction of being sent off at QPR for ‘staring’ at the referee! Brendan O’Callaghan was sold to Oldham for £30,000 in early 1985 just to pay the bills. Asprey was finished on health grounds by the end, but not before he tried to get sacked Wrexham manager Bobby Roberts as his assistant. So yes Bill Asprey does have ‘that season’ on his CV (I hate calling it the Holocaust season), but no manager in the world could have competed in Division One with that back drop.
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