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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 23, 2021 9:09:42 GMT
I have no problem with our interest in Davis. The ball might just stay up top a little longer for others to get beyond him. It'll be interesting to see how MON integrates Fletch and Davis as we can't play both at the same time. At 23 Davis really needs a full season playing and if he's made of the right stuff we could get him at just the right time.
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Post by northernstokie on Jul 23, 2021 9:26:18 GMT
I have no problem with our interest in Davis. The ball might just stay up top a little longer for others to get beyond him. It'll be interesting to see how MON integrates Fletch and Davis as we can't play both at the same time. At 23 Davis really needs a full season playing and if he's made of the right stuff we could get him at just the right time. I think using them both separately would be the way forward. Use Davis from the start to tire defences then let fletcher loose against tired legs.
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 23, 2021 9:26:57 GMT
Don't we already have Gregory who is very good at holding the ball up, and as said before he scored 3 in 10 for Derby last season. He can even put a penalty in the onion bag! Why do we desperately try to get rid of him if we are going to bring in a player with the same strengths? We need a goalscorer or we could just as well play Gregory as I see it. Because he's not good enough for the club or the fans. He's not "Good" at holding the ball up and he doesn't score many goals!
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2021 9:35:23 GMT
Don't we already have Gregory who is very good at holding the ball up, and as said before he scored 3 in 10 for Derby last season. He can even put a penalty in the onion bag! Why do we desperately try to get rid of him if we are going to bring in a player with the same strengths? We need a goalscorer or we could just as well play Gregory as I see it. Because he's not good enough for the club or the fans. He's not "Good" at holding the ball up and he doesn't score many goals! He actually is good at holding the ball up, but that's about it I think. I agree we need an upgrade, but I want a goalscorer not just another hold up player. I don't know much about Davies, but that seems to be his main contribution to games from what I've read about him. If possible I'd certainly have young Delap here instead. Another winger with pace and good crosses is also needed I think, especially with both Ince and McClean unwanted at the club.
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Post by potterburt on Jul 23, 2021 9:38:23 GMT
Don't we already have Gregory who is very good at holding the ball up, and as said before he scored 3 in 10 for Derby last season. He can even put a penalty in the onion bag! Why do we desperately try to get rid of him if we are going to bring in a player with the same strengths? We need a goalscorer or we could just as well play Gregory as I see it. Because he's not good enough for the club or the fans. He's not "Good" at holding the ball up and he doesn't score many goals! Gregg’s fine at this level and a handy person to chuck on as a sub and as backup. I suspect though that as we signed him on a free at a time where our wage structure was still up on the benchmark of mid-prem level that he’s likely on around £30k per week. Way too much for even most of the “good” strikers in the Championship. Gregg’s also close to 10 yrs Davis’ senior and makes sense to shift him and get a youngster who has something to prove for what I’m guessing would be half the weekly wage. and yeah Gregory doesn’t hold up the ball, he’s an over the top chaser and 6yard area poacher.
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Post by themistocles on Jul 23, 2021 9:55:20 GMT
Davis plus a goalscorer like Delap great.
Davis only and we won't score enough goals to get near the playoffs.
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Post by prudhoesnose on Jul 23, 2021 9:59:49 GMT
A big boy to hold up play and press from the top. Should add good structure to our game.
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Post by lagwafis on Jul 23, 2021 10:16:15 GMT
If (when) Fletcher is out we struggle to make the ball stick up top and bring others into play. Davies sounds like someone to rotate with Fletcher over the course of the season. There may even be games where O'Neill would want both on the pitch depending on who we're playing and how the game is going.
I'd be happy with Davies, though would still hope for a goalscorer similar to Campbell so we've got quality back-up in both forward positions.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jul 23, 2021 10:18:30 GMT
Lets have both Davis and Delap up front.
I like a good DD up front.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 24, 2021 17:39:14 GMT
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Post by potter1989 on Jul 24, 2021 20:49:40 GMT
Not seen or read anything about 2day, did he play? If so, any good?
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 24, 2021 20:51:50 GMT
Not seen or read anything about 2day, did he play? If so, any good? Came on second half. Hit a good header but straight to Bursik. A couple of yards either side and he would have scored.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 24, 2021 20:58:10 GMT
Not seen or read anything about 2day, did he play? If so, any good? Came on second half. Hit a good header but straight to Bursik. A couple of yards either side and he would have scored. That appears to be him all over close but no cigar goals wise we really don’t need another forward who doesn’t score
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Post by potter1989 on Jul 24, 2021 21:31:01 GMT
Came on second half. Hit a good header but straight to Bursik. A couple of yards either side and he would have scored. That appears to be him all over close but no cigar goals wise we really don’t need another forward who doesn’t score He’s signing then
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 24, 2021 21:33:37 GMT
Came on second half. Hit a good header but straight to Bursik. A couple of yards either side and he would have scored. That appears to be him all over close but no cigar goals wise we really don’t need another forward who doesn’t score What's the gravity croc saying this year us Benji? We on for a good one?
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Post by potter1989 on Jul 24, 2021 21:40:50 GMT
That appears to be him all over close but no cigar goals wise we really don’t need another forward who doesn’t score He’s signing then Like I said in a previous message, all he’s had is substitute appearances, Same as 2day, lad needs a good run in a team, hard to judge I suppose
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 24, 2021 21:41:13 GMT
That appears to be him all over close but no cigar goals wise we really don’t need another forward who doesn’t score What's the gravity croc saying this year us Benji? We on for a good one? He’s monitoring the situation thinks the first 11 as to stands and the troubles of others Derby etc may make us a club of little interest but Squad and depth means he will keep an eye on us until deadline day Doesn’t expect to Lose sight of us the other way either so 14th to 10th is his current view
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 24, 2021 22:13:06 GMT
Not seen or read anything about 2day, did he play? If so, any good? Didn’t look very mobile, certainly not someone who’s going to be running the channels.
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Post by march4 on Jul 24, 2021 23:47:20 GMT
I confidently predict that if we sign this guy he will turn out to be as effective as Vokes.
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Post by mowlee on Jul 24, 2021 23:56:36 GMT
I confidently predict that if we sign this guy he will turn out to be as effective as Vokes. the most horrible thing about your if.. will probably turn true
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 25, 2021 0:09:32 GMT
Is O'Neil trying to do one of those heart symbols with his hands and failing very miserably??? 😁
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Jul 25, 2021 0:17:42 GMT
I hope he signs like the look of him cud really shine in championship just needs a run in a team iam more worried now they will keep Davis now best striker they got now barring Watkins
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2021 0:22:49 GMT
I hope he signs like the look of him cud really shine in championship just needs a run in a team iam more worried now they will keep Davis now best striker they got now barring Watkins He would need a run in the side but would he get that here? He’s not better than Fletcher or Campbell so if they’re fit they start. Big if agreed. But I wouldn’t want Davis and Fletcher in the same team overly. And Fletcher if rested correctly will play way more than he misses imo. Is playing the 10/15 games to rest Fletcher enough football for him?
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 25, 2021 0:56:43 GMT
I hope he signs like the look of him cud really shine in championship just needs a run in a team iam more worried now they will keep Davis now best striker they got now barring Watkins He would need a run in the side but would he get that here? He’s not better than Fletcher or Campbell so if they’re fit they start. Big if agreed. But I wouldn’t want Davis and Fletcher in the same team overly. And Fletcher if rested correctly will play way more than he misses imo. Is playing the 10/15 games to rest Fletcher enough football for him? The idea posted above about making him press early to tire defences could work. Plenty of starts, but Fletcher Vs tired legs is the real weapon for now. In the meantime, he learns a lot. Like I thought Southgate might be doing with Mount. But then I realised I had nfi what the plan was.
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Post by hyaduck on Jul 25, 2021 1:38:33 GMT
The possibility of having Davis and Brown up front spells disaster and another season where we’re looking for someone to hit the target.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 2:01:07 GMT
Campbell, Mario, Powell, Fletcher are all players who have an eye for goal.
A target man who can bring them into play and create space would be great even if his numbers weren't massive. Sidibe style.
Brown is giving me major Super Jon vibes too, think I'm going to love him.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 25, 2021 6:36:20 GMT
The Villa commentators were saying he doesn't score. I thought that's what a striker is mainly there for, so no point signing him is there?
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Post by davethebass on Jul 25, 2021 6:51:20 GMT
Not seen or read anything about 2day, did he play? If so, any good? Came on second half.f Hit a good header but straight to Bursik. A couple of yards either side and he would have scored. Yeah was a powerful header. Good technique, he had to generate all the power himself, was a high loopy cross.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 25, 2021 6:56:03 GMT
File him under Vokes , what’s the point
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 25, 2021 6:57:51 GMT
The possibility of having Davis and Brown up front spells disaster and another season where we’re looking for someone to hit the target. Me to brown is an awful footballer
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