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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 22, 2021 23:28:35 GMT
So you think last season was a fluke for Powell, is that what you’re saying? Clucas got a healthy amount the season before last. 7-10 goals from 3-4 players each plus goals from set pieces is pretty healthy I think. That’s not far off what we did in 2008. Lawrence and Fuller got 15 each, Cresswell about 12, Cort and Shawcross 7-8 apiece. Get the mix right and it doesn’t matter who scores the goals. You have two players there on 14 goals a piece in Lawrence and Fuller. I don’t see that in our team. A bit harsh to say Powell’s was a fluke as he’s scored goals in the lower leagues, but he’s never shown himself to be a reliable scorer in the Championship, so expecting a similar return from him this year is possible, but hardly a sure bet. Clucas, I would say that was a fluke, yes. He’s had one season at 30 where he’s got into double digits. He was injured for much of last year. I’d be very surprised if he got near double digits. Souttar is great defensively in the air, but hasn’t shown the ruthlessness attacking the ball in the box for Stoke that you would need from a central defender to replicate Cort or Shawcross. I just don’t see goals in this team at all, especially if we are playing 5-3-2, which is why when we do create chances, I feel we need someone there to take them. I think Powell’s issues have all been to do with staying fit, but he’s had a good run over MON over one and a half seasons and been a consistent threat throughout. Souttar will be fine I think. Nothing that can’t be coached, once it clicks he’ll get on the end of things more. When I look at the options we had last season, I’m confident that we’ll score more even with just Doughty and Vrancic added. Add a mobile, bustling centre forward and that increases our threat further. Villa have given him a new contract, Grealish has raved about him, half the Championship want him - surely those are all good signs?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 22, 2021 23:30:43 GMT
So you think last season was a fluke for Powell, is that what you’re saying? Clucas got a healthy amount the season before last. 7-10 goals from 3-4 players each plus goals from set pieces is pretty healthy I think. That’s not far off what we did in 2008. Lawrence and Fuller got 15 each, Cresswell about 12, Cort and Shawcross 7-8 apiece. Get the mix right and it doesn’t matter who scores the goals. You have two players there on 14 goals a piece in Lawrence and Fuller. I don’t see that in our team. A bit harsh to say Powell’s was a fluke as he’s scored goals in the lower leagues, but he’s never shown himself to be a reliable scorer in the Championship, so expecting a similar return from him this year is possible, but hardly a sure bet. Clucas, I would say that was a fluke, yes. He’s had one season at 30 where he’s got into double digits. He was injured for much of last year. I’d be very surprised if he got near double digits. Souttar is great defensively in the air, but hasn’t shown the ruthlessness attacking the ball in the box for Stoke that you would need from a central defender to replicate Cort or Shawcross. I just don’t see goals in this team at all, especially if we are playing 5-3-2, which is why when we do create chances, I feel we need someone there to take them. Also, Powell still hasn’t signed a new contract, will he be here after January? At the rate you mention, we’d be likely to get about 50-60 or so goals, which isn’t a great return unless we have a fantastic season defensively. 60 goals wouldn’t be a bad return. Watford got promoted with 63.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 23:32:47 GMT
You have two players there on 14 goals a piece in Lawrence and Fuller. I don’t see that in our team. A bit harsh to say Powell’s was a fluke as he’s scored goals in the lower leagues, but he’s never shown himself to be a reliable scorer in the Championship, so expecting a similar return from him this year is possible, but hardly a sure bet. Clucas, I would say that was a fluke, yes. He’s had one season at 30 where he’s got into double digits. He was injured for much of last year. I’d be very surprised if he got near double digits. Souttar is great defensively in the air, but hasn’t shown the ruthlessness attacking the ball in the box for Stoke that you would need from a central defender to replicate Cort or Shawcross. I just don’t see goals in this team at all, especially if we are playing 5-3-2, which is why when we do create chances, I feel we need someone there to take them. I think Powell’s issues have all been to do with staying fit, but he’s had a good run over MON over one and a half seasons and been a consistent threat throughout. Souttar will be fine I think. Nothing that can’t be coached, once it clicks he’ll get on the end of things more. When I look at the options we had last season, I’m confident that we’ll score more even with just Doughty and Vrancic added. Add a mobile, bustling centre forward and that increases our threat further. Villa have given him a new contract, Grealish has raved about him, half the Championship want him - surely those are all good signs? Let me be clear, I’m not saying that he’s not a/going to be a good player. My concern is more the belief that he’s not the player I think we need. I’m sure that he’ll add to the team in many ways, which is why he is in demand. For many teams, he may be a missing piece. But to me, our missing piece is someone who can pick up the ball, run at the defence, and score goals. This lad may turn into a complete package, but being a big lad with good ball control is only 2 parts of what we need, with the final ingredient (finishing) being absent at present.
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Post by wilcopotter on Jul 22, 2021 23:33:11 GMT
May not score many but at least he didn’t cost millions like Vokes. Point is we need a player to put the ball in the net. We tried Berahino, Vokes, Adobe all goal scorers, cost Stoke millions and it never happened. There are no guarantees. Point is, this guy is young and his loan to us is as important to him as it is to us. Who knows until we give him a go.Reality is, we need him to score goals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 23:34:13 GMT
You have two players there on 14 goals a piece in Lawrence and Fuller. I don’t see that in our team. A bit harsh to say Powell’s was a fluke as he’s scored goals in the lower leagues, but he’s never shown himself to be a reliable scorer in the Championship, so expecting a similar return from him this year is possible, but hardly a sure bet. Clucas, I would say that was a fluke, yes. He’s had one season at 30 where he’s got into double digits. He was injured for much of last year. I’d be very surprised if he got near double digits. Souttar is great defensively in the air, but hasn’t shown the ruthlessness attacking the ball in the box for Stoke that you would need from a central defender to replicate Cort or Shawcross. I just don’t see goals in this team at all, especially if we are playing 5-3-2, which is why when we do create chances, I feel we need someone there to take them. Also, Powell still hasn’t signed a new contract, will he be here after January? At the rate you mention, we’d be likely to get about 50-60 or so goals, which isn’t a great return unless we have a fantastic season defensively. 60 goals wouldn’t be a bad return. Watford got promoted with 63. While conceding a mere 30 or so!
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 22, 2021 23:42:50 GMT
May not score many but at least he didn’t cost millions like Vokes. Point is we need a player to put the ball in the net. We tried Berahino, Vokes, Adobe all goal scorers, cost Stoke millions and it never happened. There are no guarantees. Point is, this guy is young and his loan to us is as important to him as it is to us. Who knows until we give him a go.Reality is, we need him to score goals. You say all three were goalscorers but: Berahino was a flash in the pan, one good season and is a complete tool. Vokes was good once upon a time but was seriously on the downgrade by the time he donned the red and white and now can barely move. Afobe is a myth, he’s never been a goalscorer, he’s reached double figures twice and one of those seasons was in league 1. If Davis helps create chances for the team and manages to bag a few himself then he could be exactly what we need right now. We’ve seen what a difference Fletcher has made to the team & I believe that a fit and playing regularly Davis could have exactly the same impact and at 23 he may yet find his scoring boots with regular football. If you look around the football league there’s plenty of strikers who struggle for goals until their mid-late 20s. Sometimes it just takes the right move or the right set up for it all to click.
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Post by callas12 on Jul 22, 2021 23:42:59 GMT
So you think last season was a fluke for Powell, is that what you’re saying? Clucas got a healthy amount the season before last. 7-10 goals from 3-4 players each plus goals from set pieces is pretty healthy I think. That’s not far off what we did in 2008. Lawrence and Fuller got 15 each, Cresswell about 12, Cort and Shawcross 7-8 apiece. Get the mix right and it doesn’t matter who scores the goals. You have two players there on 14 goals a piece in Lawrence and Fuller. I don’t see that in our team. A bit harsh to say Powell’s was a fluke as he’s scored goals in the lower leagues, but he’s never shown himself to be a reliable scorer in the Championship, so expecting a similar return from him this year is possible, but hardly a sure bet. Clucas, I would say that was a fluke, yes. He’s had one season at 30 where he’s got into double digits. He was injured for much of last year. I’d be very surprised if he got near double digits. Souttar is great defensively in the air, but hasn’t shown the ruthlessness attacking the ball in the box for Stoke that you would need from a central defender to replicate Cort or Shawcross. I just don’t see goals in this team at all, especially if we are playing 5-3-2, which is why when we do create chances, I feel we need someone there to take them. Also, Powell still hasn’t signed a new contract, will he be here after January? At the rate you mention, we’d be likely to get about 50-60 or so goals, which isn’t a great return unless we have a fantastic season defensively. Definitely agree that to mount a promotion challenge we need 3 or 4 players to get into double figures over the course of the season. With one getting 15 or more being an absolute bonus. Fitness issues aside, Campbell, Fletcher, Powell & possibly Clucas or Doughty could all chip in with towards 10 goals if not more throughout the season. Vrancic is good at set pieces too so may be able to grab a fair share also. Lets not forget Mama only managed 4 goals in 33 games in our promotion campaign & he was seen by many to be an integral part of of us getting promoted due to his assist ability & hold up play. Davies could be this seasons Mama but if he did join & managed a fair run of games realistically in this league I'd think he'd still be more than capable of getting 10 or towards 10 goals at least. Do think if Gregory & Vokes could be shifted out then a minimum of one other striker signing would be essential too. I'd absolutely love Delap to join us but if not him more of a flair fox in the box type of striker to provide cover should Fletcher or Campbell be out injured for a period of time which is always a likelihood.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 22, 2021 23:47:07 GMT
Can he play wide in a front 3 or is he purely a central striker? He does sound very much like a big, powerful No.9. Can't see him offering much out wide, although you never know. Pulis did play Cresswell there! What sort of player is he - and what could Stoke expect from him?As mentioned, he's a back-to-goal merchant who enjoys pinning centre-halves back in order to set his teammates in front of him. He's heavily left-footed as well but has close control whenever the ball's fizzed - or lofted - into him. An old-school centre-forward who loves the ball played into his feet would be the best way to describe him. The coaching staff at Villa love him, though, with Smith previously saying: "Keinan bullies them (his teammates) in training." "An old-school centre-forward who loves the ball played into his feet would be the best way to describe him." That's him screwed if he comes here then!!!
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Post by hyaduck on Jul 23, 2021 0:09:44 GMT
I hope this is not true, I suspect another donkey. What’s happening with Jan Kutcha?
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 23, 2021 5:31:07 GMT
I don't understand the negativity with him. Relatively unproven but with all the raw tools to do well in this league. Exactly the type of signing we should have made three years ago, but didn't. I think he'd be decent but come on, to someone who's never seen him play and only has his goal record to go on, you can see why it wouldn't get the juices flowing surely? Sadly on here, yes. I've seen enough over the years, and especially more recently with the introduction of stats to say that forwards can go from scoring very little to quite a few in the right system. I keep harping back to Pukki at Norwich. Granted his stats weren't as bad as this, however, he went from scoring 1 in 3 and 1 in 4, to scoring a bit more at Brondby for a good team in a poor league to going completely mental in the Championship for Norwich. Norwich did their homework and knew what they were getting for how they played. What can we expect from Davis? Villa fans have spoken about his raw attributes which this team badly, badly needs. The goals element will depend on the service we give him, the type of service we give him and how much he can improve himself. That pretty much applies to all forwards though? If all he brings is the raw attributes then it's an improvement on what we've got.
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Post by potter1989 on Jul 23, 2021 5:39:30 GMT
Yet again the lad has being written off before he’s had his picture taken with the shirt, He’s never had a run of games at villa, give him a chance so he can build confidence and go on a run. He’s comes on for 15 mins here and there, Let him play some games for us, let him settle in, the goals will come, different options upfront are what we need, He’s defo different to what we’ve already got, ie fletcher, (that’s it) If he’s signing for us, he wants to play for us, that alone should be celebrated, back the man up, not kick him down before he’s even got here,
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 23, 2021 5:48:57 GMT
60 goals wouldn’t be a bad return. Watford got promoted with 63. While conceding a mere 30 or so! Yep. I suspect we'll be pretty defensively solid as well. Only seven teams in the division got more than 60.
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Post by werrington on Jul 23, 2021 6:11:10 GMT
No striker is certain of scoring goals wether he’s proven or not
We could spend £10m on a proven striker and he could flop and we could pick up somebody cheap who never scores but he then goes on a spree ….Buying proven is non argument
I’ll say it again …..if a striker is proven they are snapped up by bigger fish than us
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2021 6:11:56 GMT
Don't we already have Gregory who is very good at holding the ball up, and as said before he scored 3 in 10 for Derby last season. He can even put a penalty in the onion bag! Why do we desperately try to get rid of him if we are going to bring in a player with the same strengths? We need a goalscorer or we could just as well play Gregory as I see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 6:29:49 GMT
Yeah I get that, I just think it’s outdated and silly of people to do that. Outdated? God forbid I want a striker to score! Realistically, we have to get a striker who can score. Hopefully Doughty hits the ground running, hopefully Fletcher gets a few, as do Powell and Clucas. How many of those will get more than 10 this season? Last season, Powell got his best ever return in the Championship…12. Clucas got his best ever return (11) the season before that. Maybe with Vracinic giving better deliveries, we’ll score more from set pieces? The team is woefully short of a goal threat and while this lad’s overall game may be very promising, is it what we need, or do we just need someone who will score goals for us given that we don’t really have anyone to do that right now. Go and have a look at Watford's list of top scorers last season, a team that got promoted to the Prem. They are surprising & debunk the theory that you need a 20-goal man plus a 15-goal man, to back him up. As key a priority for us next year, is keeping it tight at the back. That's the area that concerns me more.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 23, 2021 6:43:10 GMT
Don't we already have Gregory who is very good at holding the ball up, and as said before he scored 3 in 10 for Derby last season. He can even put a penalty in the onion bag! Why do we desperately try to get rid of him if we are going to bring in a player with the same strengths? We need a goalscorer or we could just as well play Gregory as I see it. We do have Gregory yes, but he absolutely isn’t very good at holding up the ball. Or anything else for that matter…..
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 23, 2021 6:47:08 GMT
Well must admit callas I thought this might not be the right signing for us but having read that I'd like to have a look, he came on in the last few games for villa at the end of last season and he didn't really impress me but then a few cameo appearances can't really judge the lad. No you didn’t understand but is there… what is your point?! Anyways, hope that served you well - good chat! What?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2021 6:48:49 GMT
Don't we already have Gregory who is very good at holding the ball up, and as said before he scored 3 in 10 for Derby last season. He can even put a penalty in the onion bag! Why do we desperately try to get rid of him if we are going to bring in a player with the same strengths? We need a goalscorer or we could just as well play Gregory as I see it. We do have Gregory yes, but he absolutely isn’t very good at holding up the ball. Or anything else for that matter….. I'm really surprised you can say that if you have seen him play as I would say he is very good at that, but he certainly is no goalscorer. Still he'll probably score 7-10 goals if he stays fit and plays close to 40 games.
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Post by potterburt on Jul 23, 2021 7:58:08 GMT
I’m struggling to find the part on this thread where we all suddenly started getting ahead of ourselves and talking as if David is definitely signing!? Anyone want to help and point out the nugget of ITK info that’s made us all run away and squabble as to whether Davis’ signing is a good or bad move?
To add my 2 cents, Fletcher, oddly enough, is not really a Striker to hold the ball up, I’ll be as bold to say that for a lot of the season Brown did a better job than Fletch on that front. Having another big bullying presence to occupy defenders’ attention and lay it off to the Powell’s, Campbells, Brown’s, Doughty’s to run on to was not an option we had last season.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2021 8:04:52 GMT
I’m struggling to find the part on this thread where we all suddenly started getting ahead of ourselves and talking as if David is definitely signing!? Anyone want to help and point out the nugget of ITK info that’s made us all run away and squabble as to whether Davis’ signing is a good or bad move? To add my 2 cents, Fletcher, oddly enough, is not really a Striker to hold the ball up, I’ll be as bold to say that for a lot of the season Brown did a better job than Fletch on that front. Having another big bullying presence to occupy defenders’ attention and lay it off to the Powell’s, Campbells, Brown’s, Doughty’s to run on to was not an option we had last season. Brown did a better job holding the ball up than Fletcher last season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How on earth did you come to that conclusion!!! Most of the times it bounced off Brown with several yards and often started the attck for the opposition! I'm stunned to be honest!
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Post by potterburt on Jul 23, 2021 8:11:20 GMT
I’m struggling to find the part on this thread where we all suddenly started getting ahead of ourselves and talking as if David is definitely signing!? Anyone want to help and point out the nugget of ITK info that’s made us all run away and squabble as to whether Davis’ signing is a good or bad move? To add my 2 cents, Fletcher, oddly enough, is not really a Striker to hold the ball up, I’ll be as bold to say that for a lot of the season Brown did a better job than Fletch on that front. Having another big bullying presence to occupy defenders’ attention and lay it off to the Powell’s, Campbells, Brown’s, Doughty’s to run on to was not an option we had last season. Brown did a better job holding the ball up than Fletcher last season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How on earth did you come to that conclusion!!! Most of the times it bounced off Brown with several yards and often started the attck for the opposition! I'm stunned to be honest! You must have missed the end of season last 10-odd games with Brown up front. Fletch has the build and physique of that big hold up forward but he doesn’t actually do it, other than jumping with CB’s for headers, Fletcher is actually more of a flair/poaching style striker. I’m guessing you’ve made your mind up on Brown already and yeah his first touch is often a groan but there’s a lot of evidence and instances where his back is to goal with a CB and his shielding and lay off play is much better than what Fletch offers. If you don’t and didn’t recognise what I’m referring to maybe put your self though the misery of rewatching the second half of last season and you’ll see, anyways back to the point of the thread - has something recently developed to suggest we’re closer to signing Davis?
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 23, 2021 8:24:09 GMT
We do have Gregory yes, but he absolutely isn’t very good at holding up the ball. Or anything else for that matter….. I'm really surprised you can say that if you have seen him play as I would say he is very good at that, but he certainly is no goalscorer. Still he'll probably score 7-10 goals if he stays fit and plays close to 40 games. He is very average at holding the ball up, hardly ever wins a ball in the air, has no pace and can’t finish. The idea he is even close to Davies is ridiculous
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2021 8:24:19 GMT
Brown did a better job holding the ball up than Fletcher last season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How on earth did you come to that conclusion!!! Most of the times it bounced off Brown with several yards and often started the attck for the opposition! I'm stunned to be honest! You must have missed the end of season last 10-odd games with Brown up front. Fletch has the build and physique of that big hold up forward but he doesn’t actually do it, other than jumping with CB’s for headers, Fletcher is actually more of a flair/poaching style striker. I’m guessing you’ve made your mind up on Brown already and yeah his first touch is often a groan but there’s a lot of evidence and instances where his back is to goal with a CB and his shielding and lay off play is much better than what Fletch offers. If you don’t and didn’t recognise what I’m referring to maybe put your self though the misery of rewatching the second half of last season and you’ll see, anyways back to the point of the thread - has something recently developed to suggest we’re closer to signing Davis? I hardly miss any Stoke games, but to end up with a conclusion that says Brown is a better hold up player than Fletch is really beyond words! You ask me if I watched those games, but did you? I really think that is the most outrageous statement I've ever seen on this board, and that says a lot! Still you're entitled to your own opinion, but how it's possible to come to such a conclusion.....I'm really out of words here!
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 23, 2021 8:26:05 GMT
I’m struggling to find the part on this thread where we all suddenly started getting ahead of ourselves and talking as if David is definitely signing!? Anyone want to help and point out the nugget of ITK info that’s made us all run away and squabble as to whether Davis’ signing is a good or bad move? To add my 2 cents, Fletcher, oddly enough, is not really a Striker to hold the ball up, I’ll be as bold to say that for a lot of the season Brown did a better job than Fletch on that front. Having another big bullying presence to occupy defenders’ attention and lay it off to the Powell’s, Campbells, Brown’s, Doughty’s to run on to was not an option we had last season. Brown did a better job holding the ball up than Fletcher last season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How on earth did you come to that conclusion!!! Most of the times it bounced off Brown with several yards and often started the attck for the opposition! I'm stunned to be honest! Brown definitely did a better job. Fletcher uses the ball better but his lack of mobility means that even when he scribes the ball, defenders can n in and take it off him, hence he ends up doing those silly flicks.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2021 8:27:22 GMT
I'm really surprised you can say that if you have seen him play as I would say he is very good at that, but he certainly is no goalscorer. Still he'll probably score 7-10 goals if he stays fit and plays close to 40 games. He is very average at holding the ball up, hardly ever wins a ball in the air, has no pace and can’t finish. The idea he is even close to Davies is ridiculous Gregory is very strong and also very good at holding the ball up, apart from that I tend to agree to what you say. I haven't seen this Davies play much if at all, but we need goals not another hold up player. If he can score goals that is another matter.
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Post by potterburt on Jul 23, 2021 8:29:25 GMT
You must have missed the end of season last 10-odd games with Brown up front. Fletch has the build and physique of that big hold up forward but he doesn’t actually do it, other than jumping with CB’s for headers, Fletcher is actually more of a flair/poaching style striker. I’m guessing you’ve made your mind up on Brown already and yeah his first touch is often a groan but there’s a lot of evidence and instances where his back is to goal with a CB and his shielding and lay off play is much better than what Fletch offers. If you don’t and didn’t recognise what I’m referring to maybe put your self though the misery of rewatching the second half of last season and you’ll see, anyways back to the point of the thread - has something recently developed to suggest we’re closer to signing Davis? I hardly miss any Stoke games, but to end up with a conclusion that says Brown is a better hold up player than Fletch is really beyond words! You ask me if I watched those games, but did you? I really think that is the most outrageous statement I've ever seen on this board, and that says a lot! Still you're entitled to your own opinion, but how it's possible to come to such a conclusion.....I'm really out of words here! Ok cool, yeah actually I just totally made it up for the fun of it! But also, there poster immediately after your comment is also reiterating what I’m alluding to. Strange that it’s the most outraged thing you’ve seen on this board - guess that shows that you don’t spend much time here and/or you align yourself with the generally usual outlandish mindsets that stalk these boards. Perhaps we both just watch the games differently 👀 👍🏼
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2021 8:36:48 GMT
Brown did a better job holding the ball up than Fletcher last season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How on earth did you come to that conclusion!!! Most of the times it bounced off Brown with several yards and often started the attck for the opposition! I'm stunned to be honest! Brown definitely did a better job. Fletcher uses the ball better but his lack of mobility means that even when he scribes the ball, defenders can n in and take it off him, hence he ends up doing those silly flicks. I certainly disagree to that too, but the issue was the hold up play here. I've hardly ever seen a worse player than Brown as a hold up player at this level. He improved a bit the last games, but to use Brown as a hold up player is certainly not the answer in my opinion. He is a willing runner though and gets into good positions, but clinical is not something I associate with Brown after last season.
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Post by callas12 on Jul 23, 2021 8:45:23 GMT
He does sound very much like a big, powerful No.9. Can't see him offering much out wide, although you never know. Pulis did play Cresswell there! What sort of player is he - and what could Stoke expect from him?As mentioned, he's a back-to-goal merchant who enjoys pinning centre-halves back in order to set his teammates in front of him. He's heavily left-footed as well but has close control whenever the ball's fizzed - or lofted - into him. An old-school centre-forward who loves the ball played into his feet would be the best way to describe him. The coaching staff at Villa love him, though, with Smith previously saying: "Keinan bullies them (his teammates) in training." Sounds like he'd be best in a front 2 alongside Campbell This is a link to Davies being connected to a Stoke move, yes its January but shows we were linked in the last window. Perhaps people are connecting this to the most recent link with him which came a few weeks back. Linked in with Dean Holden saying a 4th incoming was close in the Crewe aftermatch interview . Holden was close to signing Davies when he was Bristol City manager last season. With regards to Gregory being this type of player. It's clear he doesn't feature in MON's plans so whether he would or wouldn't fulfill this striker role isn't really an option worth considering. Some players who seem to fans to be worth a go don't feature, possibly be more than footy related in some circumstances. Could never work out why Pulis was desperate to get rid of Hoefkens & Marteinson back in that era, always thought they were both quality players but clearly just wasn't for him. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-keinan-davis-transfer-5687903Just found this most recent link the Sentinel reported on.. where says we're in talks with him
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 23, 2021 8:56:00 GMT
I hardly miss any Stoke games, but to end up with a conclusion that says Brown is a better hold up player than Fletch is really beyond words! You ask me if I watched those games, but did you? I really think that is the most outrageous statement I've ever seen on this board, and that says a lot! Still you're entitled to your own opinion, but how it's possible to come to such a conclusion.....I'm really out of words here! Ok cool, yeah actually I just totally made it up for the fun of it! But also, there poster immediately after your comment is also reiterating what I’m alluding to. Strange that it’s the most outraged thing you’ve seen on this board - guess that shows that you don’t spend much time here and/or you align yourself with the generally usual outlandish mindsets that stalk these boards. Perhaps we both just watch the games differently 👀 👍🏼 I probably spend too much time on this board and have done for years, but we must certainly watch the games differently!
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Post by karl on Jul 23, 2021 9:01:53 GMT
Would he do well in the Championship? I guess if a lot of championship clubs are trying to sign him they must think so?
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