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Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 2, 2021 21:56:44 GMT
What a load of rubbish, anyone can see that all we need is a couple of attacking options and with Mikel, Allen and Clucas we will climb the league We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. I usually don’t rise to you but that is a stupid comment
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 2, 2021 21:58:11 GMT
He’s received plenty of praise for how he’s turned the club around since his arrival, and rightly so. At the moment though I can’t imagine there are too managers out there that would get less out of this side. He’s well and truly applied the handbrake and it’s resulting in some of the most turgid shite we’ve seen since the binary season. Let’s hope we sign a couple of quality attacking players because the manager hasn’t got a clue how to coach a side to attack. In fairness he does, look at what kept us up, he tried this shit before then was forced to go more attacking and it worked a treat but since then he's absolutly shit it safe in the knowledge he can get away with it as long as we're no where near relegation.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jan 2, 2021 21:58:28 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing. Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI. And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there. I think his best side would be: Davies Collins Souttar Chester Fox Mikel Allen Clucas Campbell Fletcher Powell So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home. Pulis mark 2 Fuck sake😂😂
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Post by potterburt on Jan 2, 2021 21:59:11 GMT
What a load of rubbish, anyone can see that all we need is a couple of attacking options and with Mikel, Allen and Clucas we will climb the league We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. Oooohhhhhhh...... verlindaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!! How can you be so vehemently against someone for not using something that they see day in day out as being useful - and try and claim it that you know they are doing wrong? What do you know more that what MoN knows about a player that we’ve seen 30 mins off in the past 2 seasons?....huh?,,, Stop playing that boring blameless game off, if he turns out good - I get to to say I told you so and if it happens not well - he played him wrong. It’s not support, it’s just weird Bayern.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 2, 2021 21:59:21 GMT
I agree and why the hell verlinden ain’t been given a run Because he’s shit ? And Brown is smashing it isn't he, it wouldn't hurt giving him a chance, if he doesn't cut it there's nothing lost.
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Post by collo68 on Jan 2, 2021 21:59:44 GMT
What a load of rubbish, anyone can see that all we need is a couple of attacking options and with Mikel, Allen and Clucas we will climb the league We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. What an idiot you are, spouting the same shit every week
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Post by sportsman on Jan 2, 2021 22:00:51 GMT
Eerrrrrrr......., Negativity, excuses?....... Perhaps maybe a manager making do with a ramshackle lot that he’s got left over to try and do a job? We did just didn’t get thumped by a team that is still mid/level prem level and has been scoring for fun! The team you’ve outlined looks great, but a few of those are injured so not sure why it’s in your post? ....I’m sure your main issue as to not getting anything this eve was because we MoNs a dick and didn’t play Verlinden as always 🥱 😴 He could pick a way better side but he chooses not to. There was no attacking intent. He wanted the point again. We were meant to be the home side but played like the away side. It was fucking awful again. Another lost at home. No we didn't. We tried to pass and build attacks from the first minute till the last. More possession, more passes, more touches in opposition half, more attempts. Negative my arse. Toothless yes. Campbell and fletcher and we win that 3-0
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 2, 2021 22:05:26 GMT
He’s received plenty of praise for how he’s turned the club around since his arrival, and rightly so. At the moment though I can’t imagine there are too managers out there that would get less out of this side. He’s well and truly applied the handbrake and it’s resulting in some of the most turgid shite we’ve seen since the binary season. Let’s hope we sign a couple of quality attacking players because the manager hasn’t got a clue how to coach a side to attack. In fairness he does, look at what kept us up, he tried this shit before then was forced to go more attacking and it worked a treat but since then he's absolutly shit it safe in the knowledge he can get away with it as long as we're no where near relegation. Made up bollocks......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 22:05:54 GMT
Oatcake classics over the years... March - goals are irrelevant Bayern - he doesn't want to win games 🤦♂️ He doesn’t. That’s really quite clear.
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Post by conroyfan on Jan 2, 2021 22:06:51 GMT
Ah lads give it a rest, O Neill has done and is doing a fantastic job, the only real problem is the lack of a goal threat when Campbell and a clearly struggling Fletcher are missing, He needs help from Coates over the next month to maintain a top six challenge but what he's done in the past yr is miraculous. I realise every supporter dreams of their side banging in goals , constantly attacking and winning 8 out of every 10 games but this current side are not nearly capable of that. I don't agree that we played for a draw tonight the quality simply isn't there ,the final pass, the poorly hit cross, the lack of control are all evident; the fella is doing brillianty with the hand he's been dealt.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 22:07:00 GMT
We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. What an idiot you are, spouting the same shit every week Because I’m watching the same old shit every week. The lack of ambition is startling.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 2, 2021 22:07:25 GMT
We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. I usually don’t rise to you but that is a stupid comment Agreed CS. Bloody hell Bayern of course he wants to win games!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 2, 2021 22:08:20 GMT
In fairness he does, look at what kept us up, he tried this shit before then was forced to go more attacking and it worked a treat but since then he's absolutly shit it safe in the knowledge he can get away with it as long as we're no where near relegation. Made up bollocks...... Is it, we stayed up playing more attacking than we are now, he had to we needed the points, whats bollocks about it. And the rest is speculation, I wouldn't blame him for it, its not really his squad so keep ticking along until he can make it his own, he aint going to get the sack which is fair enough so why would he take the risk, seems logical to me.
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Post by potterburt on Jan 2, 2021 22:09:43 GMT
He could pick a way better side but he chooses not to. There was no attacking intent. He wanted the point again. We were meant to be the home side but played like the away side. It was fucking awful again. Another lost at home. No we didn't. We tried to pass and build attacks from the first minute till the last. More possession, more passes, more touches in opposition half, more attempts. Negative my arse. Toothless yes. Campbell and fletcher and we win that 3-0 How dear you question the up most respected pedigree or management and couching tactical brilliance that is our Bayern!!! If you do not agree with the singular vision that is his then you are merely a footballing minuscule non-entity. If you disagree with the Bayern as a supporter you will only be succumb to the incessant consistency of further opinionated facts where you will eventually only wish that you gave in, in the first place.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 22:10:39 GMT
I usually don’t rise to you but that is a stupid comment Agreed CS. Bloody hell Bayern of course he wants to win games! He does not set us up to win games.
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Post by milky on Jan 2, 2021 22:12:21 GMT
What a load of rubbish, anyone can see that all we need is a couple of attacking options and with Mikel, Allen and Clucas we will climb the league We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. Come on mate. Are you seriously saying he isnt playing Verlinden because he doesnt want to win games? Next you'll be saying he tells the players to miss sitters so we can go for a 0-0 😂
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Post by potterburt on Jan 2, 2021 22:12:29 GMT
Agreed CS. Bloody hell Bayern of course he wants to win games! He does not set us up to win games. And yet he has set us up where we have won games and lost sooo many less than we were losing..... Your point?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 22:14:24 GMT
We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. Come on mate. Are you seriously saying he isnt playing Verlinden because he doesnt want to win games? Next you'll be saying he tells the players to miss sitters so we can go for a 0-0 😂 He wants to keep it tight and Verlinden is a wild card. He’s scared of his own shadow and doesn’t want anyone that doesn’t do something different. Look at Powell, he’s reigned him in so much. It’s so sad to watch.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 2, 2021 22:14:50 GMT
He’s not though is he and he’s certainly better than McClean and Brown. Based on what ? Have you answered this, Bayern?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 2, 2021 22:16:52 GMT
Is it, we stayed up playing more attacking than we are now, he had to we needed the points, whats bollocks about it. And the rest is speculation, I wouldn't blame him for it, its not really his squad so keep ticking along until he can make it his own, he aint going to get the sack which is fair enough so why would he take the risk, seems logical to me. We're two points from the play offs despite a multitude of problems and you allude to the fact the O'Neill is simply happy to avoid relegation. You've been pained to give the man any credit from day one. We scored a shitload last season and conceded a shit load, this season it's the opposite and the manager trying to find a a balance between the two has been massively hampered by the amount of injuries we have. That's whilst trying to turnover a squad full of overpaid shite against a backdrop of FFP. It's not difficult to look at the wider picture......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 22:19:29 GMT
Have you answered this, Bayern? Based on watching him and knowing what he can do. He’s better at crossing and shooting and can actually beat a man.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jan 2, 2021 22:20:05 GMT
How is it not an excuse? Lack of attacking threat explained by, er, attacking threat being out injured. It’s a perfectly valid reason 😂
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 2, 2021 22:20:55 GMT
Is it, we stayed up playing more attacking than we are now, he had to we needed the points, whats bollocks about it. And the rest is speculation, I wouldn't blame him for it, its not really his squad so keep ticking along until he can make it his own, he aint going to get the sack which is fair enough so why would he take the risk, seems logical to me. We're two points from the play offs despite a multitude of problems and you allude to the fact the O'Neill is simply happy to avoid relegation. You've been pained to give the man any credit from day one. We scored a shitload last season and conceded a shit load, this season it's the opposite and the manager trying to find a a balance between the two has been massively hampered by the amount of injuries we have. That's whilst trying to turnover a squad full of overpaid shite against a backdrop of FFP. It's not difficult to look at the wider picture...... ..............I am looking at the wider picture and I've given him plenty of credit when its warrented, if he's trying to find a ballance he's failed massivly but I don't belive thats what he's doing, it's pretty clear he's happy with a draw first and foremost and if we nick it great. Edit: we were the same before the Campbell injury its just that he's capable of taking this league apart.
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 2, 2021 22:21:11 GMT
Agreed CS. Bloody hell Bayern of course he wants to win games! He does not set us up to win games. You said he doesn't want to win games ,two totally different statements
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jan 2, 2021 22:21:25 GMT
We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. Come on mate. Are you seriously saying he isnt playing Verlinden because he doesnt want to win games? Next you'll be saying he tells the players to miss sitters so we can go for a 0-0 😂 A chance would be a fine thing 😂
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 2, 2021 22:21:31 GMT
Have you answered this, Bayern? Based on watching him and knowing what he can do. He’s better at crossing and shooting and can actually beat a man. In the under 16s?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 2, 2021 22:23:08 GMT
Based on watching him and knowing what he can do. He’s better at crossing and shooting and can actually beat a man. In the under 16s? Has he ever played in the under 16s for us?
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Post by discokaraoke on Jan 2, 2021 22:23:15 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing. Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI. And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there. I think his best side would be: Davies Collins Souttar Chester Fox Mikel Allen Clucas Campbell Fletcher Powell So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home. November last year, we were 6 points adrift in relagation zone. We are 2 points from the top six! We have lost key players along the way. The only negative is fans like you! Mon knows what he is doing and knows what's needed 😉
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2021 22:24:08 GMT
Oatcake classics over the years... March - goals are irrelevant Bayern - he doesn't want to win games 🤦♂️ He doesn’t. That’s really quite clear. Whatever! Its plain silly and the vast majority of the contributors to this forum would agree. We were aggressive today. Played on the front foot and got about them. We lack quality in the final 3rd with the players we have available. Playing Verlinden wouldn't change that however much you may shout that he would. O'Neil is pretty much working with his hands tied behind his back and Ty's injury was just about the last one we could cope with. Any team at this level would struggle without their 2 best forward players. You can put your blindfold on and refuse to accept that as much as you want but time and time again, in this forum, you appear to bang the same drum irrespective of what goes on in front of your eyes. Forest (and other games of late) have been drab, boring and disappointing. Tonight was far from it. We lost a game we tried to win right up to the last kick of the game with the hapless vokes again. Did we try to win - yes Did we lack quality in final 3rd - yes Did our champions league standard centre half make a mistake - yes Are we missing our league 1 standard midfielder - a little yes For a bloke who self proclaims to always be right, you don't half post some shit on this platform. Just because you say it over and over ( and over and over) again doesn't make it right. It actually undermines some of the better stuff that you contribute to on here to be honest.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 2, 2021 22:24:16 GMT
Has he ever played in the under 16s for us? I don't know, hence I asked. But he certainly hasn't done it in the first team to date.
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