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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 1, 2021 17:40:14 GMT
Even if he is miles better than the others or not we can't afford such wages in the long run. At least not as long as we are in the Championship. If he was offered a new contract it’d be on vastly reduced terms wouldn’t it. He’s got 18 months left I’m guessing? It’s really nothing to mither over especially when now he should be playing. I think his contract is up in the summer? Have you seen 18 months somewhere? We must be honest, even if we rate Ryan his injury problems and age makes him a gamble, especially within our restricted finances.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 17:52:26 GMT
If he was offered a new contract it’d be on vastly reduced terms wouldn’t it. He’s got 18 months left I’m guessing? It’s really nothing to mither over especially when now he should be playing. I think his contract is up in the summer? Have you seen 18 months somewhere? We must be honest, even if we rate Ryan his injury problems and age makes him a gamble, especially within our restricted finances. No I was just guessing tbh and presumed it was longer due to the bullshit being written on this thread 😂 If he can play a game week from now to the end of the season then a one year deal is well worth it.
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Post by hardcastle on Jan 1, 2021 17:56:29 GMT
I'd imagine discussions are being held as to our having one - or probably two - of Danny Baart, Ryan and Chester next season, rather than all three, as part of a trimmed 24/25 man squad. You could make case for any of the three. But none are, any more, guaranteed starters, given the emergence of Collins and Souttar. Obviously none will be on Ryan's previous wage.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 1, 2021 18:09:59 GMT
I think his contract is up in the summer? Have you seen 18 months somewhere? We must be honest, even if we rate Ryan his injury problems and age makes him a gamble, especially within our restricted finances. No I was just guessing tbh and presumed it was longer due to the bullshit being written on this thread 😂 If he can play a game week from now to the end of the season then a one year deal is well worth it. Even though MON won't play him? What if he only comes on as a sub for some minutes now and then? I sort of feel MON is unwilling to make too big changes at the back now as we seem to have found players able to keep clean sheets regularly. I also feel Ryan should be given another year, we owe him that in a way, but with our limitations finacially I really can't see us taking this gamble.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 18:17:13 GMT
No I was just guessing tbh and presumed it was longer due to the bullshit being written on this thread 😂 If he can play a game week from now to the end of the season then a one year deal is well worth it. Even though MON won't play him? What if he only comes on as a sub for some minutes now and then? I sort of feel MON is unwilling to make too big changes at the back now as we seem to have found players able to keep clean sheets regularly. I also feel Ryan should be given another year, we owe him that in a way, but with our limitations finacially I really can't see us taking this gamble. He needs to start playing him.
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 1, 2021 18:18:04 GMT
Because he is a big drain on our resources. We can't afford to be sentimental. He's a top earner who we can't afford. I know the other top earners are bleeding us dry but, thanks to the insane length of contracts they were given, unfortunately we need to be ruthless. It's not great to say it but in the world we are operating in it's the truth. How do you know he is still accepting 100% of his wages whilst been injured? How do you know his contract states he earns only a small wage percentage if not playing? I could go on.... Basically let's not throw the book at Ryan and his wages without knowing facts. Hope you're right and that Wimmer and Bauer signed contracts that put them at such a disadvantage.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 1, 2021 18:27:43 GMT
Even though MON won't play him? What if he only comes on as a sub for some minutes now and then? I sort of feel MON is unwilling to make too big changes at the back now as we seem to have found players able to keep clean sheets regularly. I also feel Ryan should be given another year, we owe him that in a way, but with our limitations finacially I really can't see us taking this gamble. He needs to start playing him. He seems to rate Chester and Batth more so far, but time will tell. He certainly will have to accept reduced terms in his new contract up to 75% if he will be signed on.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 18, 2021 16:25:09 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 18, 2021 16:25:49 GMT
Agh. Balls. Get well soon skip
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 18, 2021 17:09:07 GMT
Get well soon skip
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 18, 2021 17:18:01 GMT
I assume (and hope) he's asymptomatic? It doesn't mention it in the article. I also hope he hasn't spread it to the rest of the squad.
Get well soon.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 18, 2021 17:19:21 GMT
I assume (and hope) he's asymptomatic? It doesn't mention it in the article. I also hope he hasn't spread it to the rest of the squad. Get well soon. Was thinking exactly the same mate because if not we face a couple of weeks with no football
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 18, 2021 18:47:03 GMT
He's not had much luck has he? I was hoping he'd be playing tomorrow.
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Post by hyaduck on Jan 18, 2021 20:10:17 GMT
If we’re really serious about promotion whether it this season or next, Ryan should be nowhere near the first team. He’s been great for the club over the years but nowhere near good enough to make the first eleven.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 18, 2021 20:15:48 GMT
If we’re really serious about promotion whether it this season or next, Ryan should be nowhere near the first team. He’s been great for the club over the years but nowhere near good enough to make the first eleven. Fucking hell youth, kick a man while he's down. Is it too much to wish him a speedy recovery.
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Post by hyaduck on Jan 18, 2021 20:27:31 GMT
If we’re really serious about promotion whether it this season or next, Ryan should be nowhere near the first team. He’s been great for the club over the years but nowhere near good enough to make the first eleven. Fucking hell youth, kick a man while he's down. Is it too much to wish him a speedy recovery. Fucking he’ll youth, the thread is about is contract/ability and whether he should be in the team. I wish him all the best in his health but stick to my original comment that he’s nowhere near good enough. Orate youth!
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Post by anchorman on Jan 18, 2021 20:38:55 GMT
Fucking hell youth, kick a man while he's down. Is it too much to wish him a speedy recovery. Fucking he’ll youth, the thread is about is contract/ability and whether he should be in the team. I wish him all the best in his health but stick to my original comment that he’s nowhere near good enough. Orate youth! Fair comment but Shawcross played very well for the most part v Leicester, especially considering he’s been out for so long and the quality of the opposition. In fact he was class. Get well soon skipper and look forward to you leading us to promotion.....
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Post by hyaduck on Jan 18, 2021 20:45:53 GMT
The back four at the moment is as steady as it’s been for years, sticking Ryan in there would be the wrong decision
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 18, 2021 21:12:57 GMT
Hope he's okay..regardless of his position regarding the 1st team!
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 19, 2021 20:21:26 GMT
Already a massive loss to us tonight.
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Post by a on Jan 19, 2021 20:26:37 GMT
Already a massive loss to us tonight. Dunno, faded and cost us goals recently
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 19, 2021 20:30:23 GMT
Already a massive loss to us tonight. Dunno, faded and cost us goals recently Batth's been wank though, no way would Ryan have been dispossessed like that!
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Post by a on Jan 19, 2021 20:31:58 GMT
Dunno, faded and cost us goals recently Batth's been wank though, no way would Ryan have been dispossessed like that! I’m not sure with this version of Ryan sadly. Poor from Ba’ath tho no doubt
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 19, 2021 22:27:45 GMT
Hope he can get a decent run in the side before the season ends. I think if he picks up another long-term injury or does not get much game time then we really can't afford to keep, what is our, our highest earner with FFP and all that bollox.
Really hope he can get a bit of a run and get back to decent form - we are really lacking, if not numbers, quality in that area of the park.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 19, 2021 22:40:13 GMT
The back four at the moment is as steady as it’s been for years, sticking Ryan in there would be the wrong decision If Shawcross had played tonight instead of Batth we'd have won.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 19, 2021 22:53:47 GMT
The back four at the moment is as steady as it’s been for years, sticking Ryan in there would be the wrong decision You pretty much set this comment up to age horrifically... 24 hours later... Ahh.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 22, 2021 21:45:50 GMT
We desperately need Shawcross back for the second half of the season. Get well soon Ryan.
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Post by robstokie on Jan 22, 2021 22:02:08 GMT
He needs to start playing him. He seems to rate Chester and Batth more so far, but time will tell. He certainly will have to accept reduced terms in his new contract up to 75% if he will be signed on. Think realistically it will be Batth, unless he can be moved on which will lead to us giving Chester an extension. Priority at the back has to be bringing in a quick centre half and a right back.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:33:54 GMT
He seems to rate Chester and Batth more so far, but time will tell. He certainly will have to accept reduced terms in his new contract up to 75% if he will be signed on. Think realistically it will be Batth, unless he can be moved on which will lead to us giving Chester an extension. Priority at the back has to be bringing in a quick centre half and a right back. We've got a quick centre half. He's currently playing right back
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 23, 2021 8:19:31 GMT
He seems to rate Chester and Batth more so far, but time will tell. He certainly will have to accept reduced terms in his new contract up to 75% if he will be signed on. Think realistically it will be Batth, unless he can be moved on which will lead to us giving Chester an extension. Priority at the back has to be bringing in a quick centre half and a right back. Ryan actually has decent pace, but I'm really concerned about his age and injuries. We also have Collins who has got very good pace so maybe a right back is more of a priority? Even Fox can play in central defence and has good pace.
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