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Post by hyaduck on Jan 1, 2021 12:41:11 GMT
He's got 18 months on his contract hasn't he? F##king hope not |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 1, 2021 12:48:08 GMT
He's got 18 months on his contract hasn't he? F##king hope not Why? |
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 1, 2021 13:23:40 GMT
Because he is a big drain on our resources. We can't afford to be sentimental. He's a top earner who we can't afford. I know the other top earners are bleeding us dry but, thanks to the insane length of contracts they were given, unfortunately we need to be ruthless. It's not great to say it but in the world we are operating in it's the truth. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 1, 2021 13:29:45 GMT
Because we can hardly afford such big wages as he has, it's simply not sustainable in the long run.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 13:44:36 GMT
Because we can hardly afford such big wages as he has, it's simply not sustainable in the long run. He’s a better CB than all of the rest though. He should be playing a game a week. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 1, 2021 14:12:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 14:17:04 GMT
The fa cup game v leicester will be a big game for him I suspect. If he comes through it playing well, he'll feature a fair bit between now and end of season you'd think. Rotating with Chester so they play 1 game per week maybe? If it’s a 3 at the back, this probably makes the most sense. To me, Chester plays very decently for a while, then has a few clangers when he’s tired out. Shawcross may well do the same. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 1, 2021 14:17:16 GMT
Because we can hardly afford such big wages as he has, it's simply not sustainable in the long run. He’s a better CB than all of the rest though. He should be playing a game a week. Should he? Instead of who? It’s no longer 2013. The sad truth is he’s finished unfortunately. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jan 1, 2021 14:20:05 GMT
He should be offered a coaching role
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 14:35:25 GMT
He’s a better CB than all of the rest though. He should be playing a game a week. Should he? Instead of who? It’s no longer 2013. The sad truth is he’s finished unfortunately. Chester who has been consistently shite for us. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 14:35:44 GMT
He should be offered a coaching role He already does coach in the academy. |
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Post by Veritas on Jan 1, 2021 14:41:13 GMT
He should be offered a coaching role If he is a good coach he should. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 1, 2021 14:49:10 GMT
Should he? Instead of who? It’s no longer 2013. The sad truth is he’s finished unfortunately. Chester who has been consistently shite for us. He’s been outstanding. You just can’t admit that you’ve been completely wrong about him and made a tit of yourself in the process. |
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Post by TinkerT on Jan 1, 2021 14:54:03 GMT
Because we can hardly afford such big wages as he has, it's simply not sustainable in the long run. He’s a better CB than all of the rest though. He should be playing a game a week. Is he bollocks. He's probably on par with danny batth our fourth choice centre back. Hes finished. |
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Post by TinkerT on Jan 1, 2021 14:56:04 GMT
Chester who has been consistently shite for us. He’s been outstanding. You just can’t admit that you’ve been completely wrong about him and made a tit of yourself in the process. I've given chester grief myself but he's been getting better. Far better this season than last. I'd certainly say hes better than shawcross anyway. Like i said previously shawcross is on par with batth as our 4-5th choice cb |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 15:04:41 GMT
Chester who has been consistently shite for us. He’s been outstanding. You just can’t admit that you’ve been completely wrong about him and made a tit of yourself in the process. Outstanding 😂😂 Against Derby and QPR he gifted them their best chances of the game and the og the other day was awful defending. Wrong side of his man and trying to recover. Before the Derby game there wasn’t even a hint that he was playing well nevermind outstanding. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 1, 2021 15:12:28 GMT
He’s been outstanding. You just can’t admit that you’ve been completely wrong about him and made a tit of yourself in the process. Outstanding 😂😂 Against Derby and QPR he gifted them their best chances of the game and the og the other day was awful defending. Wrong side of his man and trying to recover. Before the Derby game there wasn’t even a hint that he was playing well nevermind outstanding. Since he came back into the team against Sheffield Wednesday we’ve conceded three goals in nine games. The problem is you’ve entrenched yourself into a position where you are now micro analysing his performances and highlighting every minor error to justify your viewpoint. Just be honest and admit he’s made a mug out of you. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 15:54:03 GMT
Outstanding 😂😂 Against Derby and QPR he gifted them their best chances of the game and the og the other day was awful defending. Wrong side of his man and trying to recover. Before the Derby game there wasn’t even a hint that he was playing well nevermind outstanding. Since he came back into the team against Sheffield Wednesday we’ve conceded three goals in nine games. The problem is you’ve entrenched yourself into a position where you are now micro analysing his performances and highlighting every minor error to justify your viewpoint. Just be honest and admit he’s made a mug out of you. And been so defensively minded doing it. We haven’t tried to win games and it’s all been about defending at all costs. In 3 of the games since he has given the opposition their best chances and a goal and nearly scuppered the game plan completely with it. Being at fault for a goal where he’s not doing a basic of defending ie being goal side isn’t micro analysing. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 1, 2021 15:59:57 GMT
Since he came back into the team against Sheffield Wednesday we’ve conceded three goals in nine games. The problem is you’ve entrenched yourself into a position where you are now micro analysing his performances and highlighting every minor error to justify your viewpoint. Just be honest and admit he’s made a mug out of you. And been so defensively minded doing it. We haven’t tried to win games and it’s all been about defending at all costs. In 3 of the games since he has given the opposition their best chances and a goal and nearly scuppered the game plan completely with it. Being at fault for a goal where he’s not doing a basic of defending ie being goal side isn’t micro analysing. I’m afraid it is. You’ve reached a stage where you are desperate for him to make a mistake to justify your entrenched opinion of him. Very odd behaviour. |
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Post by wherty on Jan 1, 2021 16:06:18 GMT
He should be offered a coaching role Already is. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 16:06:58 GMT
And been so defensively minded doing it. We haven’t tried to win games and it’s all been about defending at all costs. In 3 of the games since he has given the opposition their best chances and a goal and nearly scuppered the game plan completely with it. Being at fault for a goal where he’s not doing a basic of defending ie being goal side isn’t micro analysing. I’m afraid it is. You’ve reached a stage where you are desperate for him to make a mistake to justify your entrenched opinion of him. Very odd behaviour. No it’s not. He made a basic error and it cost us a goal. Against Derby he made a basic error and it mean he had to clear it off the line whereas if he just did his job and won the initial header nothing is needed. Against QPR he’s too far up the pitch and gets spun easily and they nearly score. All basic mistakes that an experienced defender shouldn’t be making. |
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Post by wherty on Jan 1, 2021 16:09:23 GMT
Because he is a big drain on our resources. We can't afford to be sentimental. He's a top earner who we can't afford. I know the other top earners are bleeding us dry but, thanks to the insane length of contracts they were given, unfortunately we need to be ruthless. It's not great to say it but in the world we are operating in it's the truth. How do you know he is still accepting 100% of his wages whilst been injured? How do you know his contract states he earns only a small wage percentage if not playing? I could go on.... Basically let's not throw the book at Ryan and his wages without knowing facts. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 1, 2021 16:10:01 GMT
I’m afraid it is. You’ve reached a stage where you are desperate for him to make a mistake to justify your entrenched opinion of him. Very odd behaviour. No it’s not. He made a basic error and it cost us a goal. Against Derby he made a basic error and it mean he had to clear it off the line whereas if he just did his job and won the initial header nothing is needed. Against QPR he’s too far up the pitch and gets spun easily and they nearly score. All basic mistakes that an experienced defender shouldn’t be making. Yeah who would have though a championship defender would make a slight error every now and again. I’ll repeat, three goals conceded in nine games. |
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Post by boweryboy on Jan 1, 2021 16:11:53 GMT
Still a bit premature to write off Shawcross,theres just no need to rush him back, although I would have him instead of Chester any day of the week,as the own goal shows his vunerabiliy in the air, yes Souttar and Collins are the future,but have a long way to go,they both have been guilty of swinging a leg at fresh air and got away with it,by not having your body in the right position, which only comes with experience,I certainly would not want to go into the premier League with our present defence against top class strikers, unless we are quite happy to get humiliated week after week !!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 16:13:08 GMT
No it’s not. He made a basic error and it cost us a goal. Against Derby he made a basic error and it mean he had to clear it off the line whereas if he just did his job and won the initial header nothing is needed. Against QPR he’s too far up the pitch and gets spun easily and they nearly score. All basic mistakes that an experienced defender shouldn’t be making. Yeah who would have though a championship defender would make a slight error every now and again. I’ll repeat, three goals conceded in nine games. Slight? Not being goal side is a poor error. And he constantly gets caught under long high balls. Again it’s not a slight error, it’s a fundamental flaw with his game. |
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Post by wherty on Jan 1, 2021 16:17:37 GMT
Yeah who would have though a championship defender would make a slight error every now and again. I’ll repeat, three goals conceded in nine games. Slight? Not being goal side is a poor error. And he constantly gets caught under long high balls. Again it’s not a slight error, it’s a fundamental flaw with his game. Well for a crap defender Bayern, he's made a good living out of it. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 1, 2021 16:20:35 GMT
Yeah who would have though a championship defender would make a slight error every now and again. I’ll repeat, three goals conceded in nine games. Slight? Not being goal side is a poor error. And he constantly gets caught under long high balls. Again it’s not a slight error, it’s a fundamental flaw with his game. Start of a New Year and nothing changes🙄 |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 1, 2021 16:23:00 GMT
Because we can hardly afford such big wages as he has, it's simply not sustainable in the long run. He’s a better CB than all of the rest though. He should be playing a game a week. Even if he is miles better than the others or not we can't afford such wages in the long run. At least not as long as we are in the Championship.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 16:38:17 GMT
Still a bit premature to write off Shawcross,theres just no need to rush him back, although I would have him instead of Chester any day of the week,as the own goal shows his vunerabiliy in the air, yes Souttar and Collins are the future,but have a long way to go,they both have been guilty of swinging a leg at fresh air and got away with it,by not having your body in the right position, which only comes with experience,I certainly would not want to go into the premier League with our present defence against top class strikers, unless we are quite happy to get humiliated week after week !!! When we concede with Shawcross in the team his head visibly drops. I think relegation affected him badly not just the injuries. MON sees Chester as a better influence on the young lads I think and is willing to overlook the odd mistake. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 17:19:47 GMT
He’s a better CB than all of the rest though. He should be playing a game a week. Even if he is miles better than the others or not we can't afford such wages in the long run. At least not as long as we are in the Championship. If he was offered a new contract it’d be on vastly reduced terms wouldn’t it. He’s got 18 months left I’m guessing? It’s really nothing to mither over especially when now he should be playing. |
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