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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 11:34:13 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 1, 2020 11:34:13 GMT
Is he perhaps a little closer than we are being led to believe?. MON said at his press conference pre Rotherham that he wouldn't be quite ready to be selected, suggesting he's progressing much quicker than anticipated?.
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Post by nott1 on Nov 1, 2020 11:52:29 GMT
I'd be surprised if we see him before Xmas!
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Post by insideright on Nov 1, 2020 21:06:21 GMT
I'd be disappointed if we saw him before Easter
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Post by miltonstokienew on Nov 1, 2020 21:08:40 GMT
I'd be disappointed if we saw him before Easter Dick
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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 21:10:16 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 1, 2020 21:10:16 GMT
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 1, 2020 21:19:56 GMT
I never overly liked his style of play at Stoke but it's clear every manager who oversees him loves him. He can certainly do a job in midfield so no doubt when (if) he is fit he will likely be straight back in the team. Difficult injury to recover from fully, though it has to be said. One can only hope he is a quick and effective healer.
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 1, 2020 21:20:44 GMT
He will be doing well to play in the first team before the new year. Nine months is about standard for a ruptured Achilles
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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 21:23:36 GMT
Post by iglugluk on Nov 1, 2020 21:23:36 GMT
I never overly liked his style of play at Stoke but it's clear every manager who oversees him loves him. He can certainly do a job in midfield so no doubt when (if) he is fit he will likely be straight back in the team. Difficult injury to recover from fully, though it has to be said. One can only hope he is a quick and effective healer. A good Healer(sic) in action whilst at work
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 1, 2020 21:25:43 GMT
He will be doing well to play in the first team before the new year. Nine months is about standard for a ruptured Achilles Yeah - seems to be about the worst one you can get these days, maybe even worse than a cruciate. And it seems to be the one injury that has the capacity to mean you sometimes don't return as the same player, which considering his engine and mobility could be an issue as he approaches 31
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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 21:27:57 GMT
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Post by insideright on Nov 1, 2020 21:27:57 GMT
I'd be disappointed if we saw him before Easter Dick
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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 21:29:52 GMT
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Post by insideright on Nov 1, 2020 21:29:52 GMT
Excuse me if I have an an option but I think history won't be Joe's friend!
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 1, 2020 21:38:09 GMT
Excuse me if I have an an option but I think history won't be Joe's friend! You can definitely have an option, if indeed one is available to you 😁 More seriously, you also have every right to your opinion too and it doesn't require that other posters should insult you just because they disagree with it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 21:56:36 GMT
Allen's energy could give us a huge boost in the second half of the season if back to full fitness.
Injuries and fatigue will be a massive factor in this compressed season.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 1, 2020 22:38:44 GMT
The thought of James Chester and Joe Allen in the same team at the same time makes me feel sick.
He needs carting off as soon as possible.
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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 23:35:49 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 1, 2020 23:35:49 GMT
He will be doing well to play in the first team before the new year. Nine months is about standard for a ruptured Achilles Yeah - seems to be about the worst one you can get these days, maybe even worse than a cruciate. And it seems to be the one injury that has the capacity to mean you sometimes don't return as the same player, which considering his engine and mobility could be an issue as he approaches 31 Massive shame because he's exactly what we need right now to allow the others in the team to play a bit.
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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 23:37:23 GMT
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Post by onionman on Nov 1, 2020 23:37:23 GMT
He will be doing well to play in the first team before the new year. Nine months is about standard for a ruptured Achilles Yeah - seems to be about the worst one you can get these days, maybe even worse than a cruciate. And it seems to be the one injury that has the capacity to mean you sometimes don't return as the same player, which considering his engine and mobility could be an issue as he approaches 31 He might not return as the same player? Hope he comes back as Roy Keane.
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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 23:42:15 GMT
Post by Gods on Nov 1, 2020 23:42:15 GMT
He will be doing well to play in the first team before the new year. Nine months is about standard for a ruptured Achilles Yeah - seems to be about the worst one you can get these days, maybe even worse than a cruciate. And it seems to be the one injury that has the capacity to mean you sometimes don't return as the same player, which considering his engine and mobility could be an issue as he approaches 31 Being a squash player I have seen more Achilles ruptures and tears than you can shake a stick at, it is the archetypal squash players injury. Best I have seen anyone do to return to any meaningful action is 9 months and I've seen several people 35 years + just call it a day.
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Post by george2again on Nov 1, 2020 23:43:13 GMT
Bit shocked at the negativity. I really like him him and his energy levels exactly what were missing in our lethargic, languid approach to most matches. Arguable with Fletcher, Tyrese, Mikel and Brown we will have better players for him to engage with and find passes not like some of the duffers he had to cope with the last two seasons. Straight in team for me.
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Allen
Nov 1, 2020 23:58:28 GMT
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Post by bolders on Nov 1, 2020 23:58:28 GMT
Yeah - seems to be about the worst one you can get these days, maybe even worse than a cruciate. And it seems to be the one injury that has the capacity to mean you sometimes don't return as the same player, which considering his engine and mobility could be an issue as he approaches 31 Being a squash player I have seen more Achilles ruptures and tears than you can shake a stick at, it is the archetypal squash players injury. Best I have seen anyone do to return to any meaningful action is 9 months and I've seen several people 35 years + just call it a day. Just a thought and a hope. How many of those would of had the services of the top experts and had all the facilities at their finger tips though.
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 1:12:42 GMT
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 2, 2020 1:12:42 GMT
The thought of James Chester and Joe Allen in the same team at the same time makes me feel sick. He needs carting off as soon as possible. What about the thought of a Spine of Chester, Allen and Vokes?
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Post by werrington on Nov 2, 2020 6:51:49 GMT
I’m no fan of Joe Allen but like I put on the James Maclean thread without him Maclean and Clucas last season we’d be playing Northampton this weekend
He’s been superb since Michael O’Neill arrived but given his injury I’ll doubt we’ll see him anytime soon
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 6:55:57 GMT
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Post by John Smiths Upper Fan on Nov 2, 2020 6:55:57 GMT
The thought of James Chester and Joe Allen in the same team at the same time makes me feel sick. He needs carting off as soon as possible. What about the thought of a Spine of Chester, Allen and Vokes? That spine pretty much got Wales to the semi finals of Euro 2016! We've signed Chester and Vokes well past their best and while I rate Allen we've had some good years out of him I'm not convinced he'll come back the same.
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 10:15:03 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 2, 2020 10:15:03 GMT
I’m no fan of Joe Allen but like I put on the James Maclean thread without him Maclean and Clucas last season we’d be playing Northampton this weekend He’s been superb since Michael O’Neill arrived but given his injury I’ll doubt we’ll see him anytime soon I disagree that without him we'd have been down, Cousins came in and did just a good a job, which to me shows how much we're over paying for what Allen does given Cousins is a decent squad player at best.
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 10:16:57 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2020 10:16:57 GMT
I’m no fan of Joe Allen but like I put on the James Maclean thread without him Maclean and Clucas last season we’d be playing Northampton this weekend He’s been superb since Michael O’Neill arrived but given his injury I’ll doubt we’ll see him anytime soon Cousins replaced him and we had the same PPG with Cousins in the side. It'd have been fine!
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Post by werrington on Nov 2, 2020 10:23:34 GMT
I’m no fan of Joe Allen but like I put on the James Maclean thread without him Maclean and Clucas last season we’d be playing Northampton this weekend He’s been superb since Michael O’Neill arrived but given his injury I’ll doubt we’ll see him anytime soon Cousins replaced him and we had the same PPG with Cousins in the side. It'd have been fine! Joe Allen last game was v Hull on the last match before lockdown....those three dragged us back into the fray as we looked a shambles Cousins came in after lockdown when we were well in the mix I’m not knocking Cousins ( far from it ) but It’s night and day
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 10:26:56 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2020 10:26:56 GMT
Cousins replaced him and we had the same PPG with Cousins in the side. It'd have been fine! Joe Allen last game was v Hull on the last match before lockdown....those three dragged us back into the fray as we looked a shambles Cousins came in after lockdown when we were well in the mix I’m not knocking Cousins ( far from it ) but It’s night and day Cousins came in at lockdown when we were playing awful and looked like we were on a relegation path again.
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 10:30:16 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 2, 2020 10:30:16 GMT
Cousins replaced him and we had the same PPG with Cousins in the side. It'd have been fine! Joe Allen last game was v Hull on the last match before lockdown....those three dragged us back into the fray as we looked a shambles Cousins came in after lockdown when we were well in the mix I’m not knocking Cousins ( far from it ) but It’s night and day After the manager dropped the system that was working well before lock down, was fine when he changed it again.
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 10:32:34 GMT
Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 2, 2020 10:32:34 GMT
The thought of James Chester and Joe Allen in the same team at the same time makes me feel sick. He needs carting off as soon as possible. What about the thought of a Spine of Chester, Allen and Vokes? Do you actually know what a ‘spine’ is?
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 11:15:55 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Nov 2, 2020 11:15:55 GMT
Be great to see him back but you only have look at how much Loftus Cheek and Hudson Odoi (both much younger) are struggling to overcome theirs to see the challenge he’s up against. It’s the type of injury that does seem to rob you of a yard of pace without fail.
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Allen
Nov 2, 2020 11:28:46 GMT
Post by pez75 on Nov 2, 2020 11:28:46 GMT
As anyone in the world of football will tell you Joe is a cracking player who will be a major asset to Stoke when he's back fit and available for selection. With a decent manager who can hopefully get the best out of him, I for one cannot wait for his return - which can't come soon enough.
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