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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 12:30:18 GMT
Is that Mikel top left on the first picture? He has to go into the box surely and try and cover the men queueing up. Clearly awful from Brown but you have to ask where the midfield were. Yes, it's Mikel. Distinct lack of midfield help for a level game, away at a title contender & deep into injury time. Slightly naive from Brown not to stick him on his backside by any means neccessary. Yeah Brown should kick him. Mikel is consistently doing this though, it's annoying because he's fantastic with the ball and the pass for the first goal is wonderful. So hard to get thar right.
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Post by werrington on Nov 5, 2020 12:34:29 GMT
Is that Mikel top left on the first picture? He has to go into the box surely and try and cover the men queueing up. Clearly awful from Brown but you have to ask where the midfield were. Yes, it's Mikel. Distinct lack of midfield help for a level game, away at a title contender & deep into injury time. Slightly naive from Brown not to stick him on his backside by any means neccessary. And if Brown sticks him on his arse and they score from the free kick I doubt many being critical of him on here would of said he did the right thing He’d of been reemed for giving away a stupid free kick in the 93rd minute
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 12:35:33 GMT
Yes, it's Mikel. Distinct lack of midfield help for a level game, away at a title contender & deep into injury time. Slightly naive from Brown not to stick him on his backside by any means neccessary. And if Brown sticks him on his arse and they score from the free kick I doubt many being critical of him on here would of said he did the right thing He’d of been reemed for giving away a stupid free kick in the 93rd minute And rightly so But there's more chance of getting away with it. That's one of those things you have to weigh the odds up on.
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 5, 2020 12:39:13 GMT
Micro analysing that far back just to prove a point as per.
Have we gone back far enough to blame the inept ref for allowing thier player to handball it yet?
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 5, 2020 13:12:30 GMT
Looking back that goal is all about the lack of midfield cover.
It is entirely possible for a right back (especially when the player is not a right back) on a 1-1 to get skinned in that position, it happens and that is where you need some cover of which there was zero.
Thompson can be excused there because he is keeping Hughes good, but extremely poor from Mikel and Cousins there. I think Mikel was just completely knackered by that time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 13:44:58 GMT
Micro analysing that far back just to prove a point as per. Have we gone back far enough to blame the inept ref for allowing thier player to handball it yet? “Micro analysing” = Looking at a picture 😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 14:05:06 GMT
Is that Mikel top left on the first picture? He has to go into the box surely and try and cover the men queueing up. Clearly awful from Brown but you have to ask where the midfield were. Yes, it's Mikel. Distinct lack of midfield help for a level game, away at a title contender & deep into injury time. Slightly naive from Brown not to stick him on his backside by any means neccessary. Last night MON was getting criticised for being negative and not going on to try and win the game, so were we going for it or weren’t we?
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 5, 2020 14:16:09 GMT
There's at least two defenders in that second photo who haven't picked a man and should have been covering the edge of the box where Watford players are queuing up.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 14:27:22 GMT
There's at least two defenders in that second photo who haven't picked a man and should have been covering the edge of the box where Watford players are queuing up. No chance a defender goes from protecting the goal and goes ahead of the ball there in good concience
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 5, 2020 14:40:15 GMT
You can't really have a go at Brown for being a shit right back when clearly he isn't a right back at all. Have you ask questions of the manager there tho surely? Is Bauer really such a bad egg as to not be on the bench? We are desperate for a RWB. Oh and a LWB, if we are too play wing backs. I thought the change in formation was poor The problem is Bauer is on the same level as Brown defence wise, he isn't a step up, we should be forgeting wingbacks all together until we can afford to get some actual wing backs in.
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 5, 2020 14:44:09 GMT
Have you ask questions of the manager there tho surely? Is Bauer really such a bad egg as to not be on the bench? We are desperate for a RWB. Oh and a LWB, if we are too play wing backs. I thought the change in formation was poor The problem is Bauer is on the same level as Brown defence wise, he isn't a step up, we should be forgeting wingbacks all together until we can afford to get some actual wing backs in. If we are going that way then we need to offload Smith as he's nowhere near good enough at this level at rb or rwb. Batth isn't either, in really hoping Collins breaks through in the 4.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 5, 2020 15:11:41 GMT
Yes, it's Mikel. Distinct lack of midfield help for a level game, away at a title contender & deep into injury time. Slightly naive from Brown not to stick him on his backside by any means neccessary. Last night MON was getting criticised for being negative and not going on to try and win the game, so were we going for it or weren’t we? We went for the equaliser (Vokes, Brown RW) and then went for the draw (Brown to RB, Cousins)?
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Post by superalexneil on Nov 5, 2020 15:34:24 GMT
Said it before, average at best
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Post by femark on Nov 5, 2020 15:46:59 GMT
There's at least two defenders in that second photo who haven't picked a man and should have been covering the edge of the box where Watford players are queuing up. That's what I thought as well. When we go to a back 3 one CB needs to take ownership of covering edge of the box. One defender (I can't tell which) seems to point at the free player but doesn't move to him.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 5, 2020 18:06:58 GMT
There's at least two defenders in that second photo who haven't picked a man and should have been covering the edge of the box where Watford players are queuing up. No chance a defender goes from protecting the goal and goes ahead of the ball there in good concience So we just leave those 3 Watford players free on the edge of the area to have a free shot? The players in the area were all covered and you leave two defenders to mark nobody?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 18:13:13 GMT
No chance a defender goes from protecting the goal and goes ahead of the ball there in good concience So we just leave those 3 Watford players free on the edge of the area to have a free shot? The players in the area were all covered and you leave two defenders to mark nobody? No the midfield need to be there.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 5, 2020 18:18:22 GMT
So we just leave those 3 Watford players free on the edge of the area to have a free shot? The players in the area were all covered and you leave two defenders to mark nobody? No the midfield need to be there. The players doing nothing could well be midfield players. I can't really tell from the photo. I thought last night on TV that one was Thompson and I know McLean is in the box but I can't remember now if he's doing nothing or covering somebody. The point is that to leave not one but three players completely free on the edge of the box is appalling defending from the team not blaming the defenders as such.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 18:21:23 GMT
No the midfield need to be there. The players doing nothing could well be midfield players. I can't really tell from the photo. I thought last night on TV that one was Thompson and I know McLean is in the box but I can't remember now if he's doing nothing or covering somebody. The point is that to leave not one but three players completely free on the edge of the box is appalling defending from the team not blaming the defenders as such. It is appalling defending from the team but the ones who need to be there are the midfield. If you're a CB there and go ahead of the ball you're asking for trouble.
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