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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 4, 2020 21:37:23 GMT
He’s an absolutely fine attacking sub for us. That said would I prefer Ince or Verlinden on the bench. Yes. Not sure why we’d sign him then he’s no Better than we have might as well have kept Edwards and saved the money or signed a right back more appalling recruitment via the despicable process We need a pacy attacking sub though and he’s absolutely fine for that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 4, 2020 21:37:37 GMT
Don’t think he’ll be a defensive player as long as I have hole in my arse though. Just seems a mad gamble. And wasting what he is good at. Trouble is he’s no forward either as his goals record shows so essentially he’s a filler like Thomson and Oakley booth add them to fox and Gunn and Chester and it’s a nightmare of a recruitment effort under this manager He's a winger, but we keep playing him out of position, he's never a wing back or a striker.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 21:49:19 GMT
Didn't he make that change at 2-1 down? Brown is very raw. That much was obvious from his debut. He'll be a decent player for us though over the course of the season and beyond. He won't. He'll be what he is, a squad player. He was subbed on to make us more attacking when we were 2-1 down. I don't think he would have taken Smith off at 2-2.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 4, 2020 21:51:06 GMT
Trouble is he’s no forward either as his goals record shows so essentially he’s a filler like Thomson and Oakley booth add them to fox and Gunn and Chester and it’s a nightmare of a recruitment effort under this manager He's a winger, but we keep playing him out of position, he's never a wing back or a striker. Down to the manager then , a manger who last season said the key is playing players in the right position , for me he’s not as god as ince who’s disappeared .
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 4, 2020 22:03:14 GMT
He's a winger, but we keep playing him out of position, he's never a wing back or a striker. Down to the manager then , a manger who last season said the key is playing players in the right position , for me he’s not as god as ince who’s disappeared . That went out the window as soon as he wanted to play wing backs with no wing backs. I agree re Ince, he needs to be brought back but I think MON sees Brown as capable of playing a few positions.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 4, 2020 22:13:40 GMT
Very bad defending for their third by Brown!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 22:19:19 GMT
Very bad defending for their third by Brown! He has to bring him down once he goes past him towards penalty area. Booking I know. But we regroup and defend it. Collect 1 point.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 4, 2020 22:21:32 GMT
Very bad defending for their third by Brown! He has to bring him down once he goes past him towards penalty area. Booking I know. But we regroup and defend it. Collect 1 point. It's deep into added time as well! Not very impressed by him in that situation at all!
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 4, 2020 22:29:11 GMT
Its not good defending but it is harsh to put it all on him. He was brought as an attacking option to get us back into the game then had to revert to right back.
I felt like someone should have been covering him there and the defending in the box is appalling. Cousins was in no man's land.
Baath's howler is worse than Browns too
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 4, 2020 22:47:07 GMT
He's a wide forward isn't he and is fine used as a sub for Campbell when he tires.
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Post by jarhead on Nov 4, 2020 22:54:24 GMT
He has to bring him down once he goes past him towards penalty area. Booking I know. But we regroup and defend it. Collect 1 point. It's deep into added time as well! Not very impressed by him in that situation at all! Weak as piss just take him out regroup and defend properly!!! Something we can’t do though at the minute!
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 4, 2020 23:57:57 GMT
It's deep into added time as well! Not very impressed by him in that situation at all! Weak as piss just take him out regroup and defend properly!!! Something we can’t do though at the minute! Hopefully he will learn from that mistake.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 5, 2020 0:34:14 GMT
Very bad defending for their third by Brown! And by Cousins. What on earth was that positioning? What did he think he was going to do from there? Right in the middle of no man's land. Once their player got past Brown he should have found Cousins cutting off the pull back and closing him down but no Cousins was watching from 5 yards away. Schoolboy error. At least Brown was trying.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 5, 2020 0:42:56 GMT
That's what you get when you address recruitment problems that need major surgery with sticking plasters. Just foul the bastard for fucks sake, Brown. Isn’t the best right wing back at the club in the naught corner for no good reason though? A problem of the managers making. I'm massively in for giving it a go mate but I don't think that O'Neil is the only one to bomb squad him, which makes you wonder. He would be useful if he could be bought back though. If he's ok enough to be hanging around the U23s it's not a bad influence/disciplinary issue is it? Like most things at this club, it's just fucking odd.
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Post by tuum on Nov 5, 2020 0:45:32 GMT
Where was Mikel for their 3rd goal? I thought I saw him standing watching from 15 yds away when the guy was attacking Brown. Didn't seem to make any effort to track back to cover the two Watford midfielders standing on the edge of our box waiting for the pull back. I may be mistaken on this because I only saw one fleeting camera angle and it could have been another Stoke player standing watching the proceedings making no effort to get back into the box to close the obvious danger down. Whoever it was should be shot for dereliction of duty.
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Post by RF10 on Nov 5, 2020 1:04:11 GMT
You can't really have a go at Brown for being a shit right back when clearly he isn't a right back at all.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 5, 2020 6:07:36 GMT
Very bad defending for their third by Brown! And by Cousins. What on earth was that positioning? What did he think he was going to do from there? Right in the middle of no man's land. Once their player got past Brown he should have found Cousins cutting off the pull back and closing him down but no Cousins was watching from 5 yards away. Schoolboy error. At least Brown was trying. Still bad defending from Brown in that situation, as another poster on here said he should have taken a yellow instead of letting the winger go.
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 5, 2020 6:32:44 GMT
You can't really have a go at Brown for being a shit right back when clearly he isn't a right back at all. Have you ask questions of the manager there tho surely? Is Bauer really such a bad egg as to not be on the bench? We are desperate for a RWB. Oh and a LWB, if we are too play wing backs. I thought the change in formation was poor
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 8:29:56 GMT
Isn’t the best right wing back at the club in the naught corner for no good reason though? A problem of the managers making. I'm massively in for giving it a go mate but I don't think that O'Neil is the only one to bomb squad him, which makes you wonder. He would be useful if he could be bought back though. If he's ok enough to be hanging around the U23s it's not a bad influence/disciplinary issue is it? Like most things at this club, it's just fucking odd. I don’t get it from any logical POV. Pete Smith on Twitter said it’s not going to happen and then they’ll look to move them on. But surely to God the best way to move them is to actually play them?
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Post by RF10 on Nov 5, 2020 8:35:39 GMT
You can't really have a go at Brown for being a shit right back when clearly he isn't a right back at all. Have you ask questions of the manager there tho surely? Is Bauer really such a bad egg as to not be on the bench? We are desperate for a RWB. Oh and a LWB, if we are too play wing backs. I thought the change in formation was poor Yeah. He shouldn't be playing there.
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Post by Ron on Nov 5, 2020 8:41:31 GMT
The lad is simply not good enough. Still dining out on a deflected goal at wolves.
Can’t fault his effort- he’s got some pace- but I’ve been distinctly unimpressed by him so far. Offered very very little. He often looks like a lost child.
Happy for the lad prove me wrong- but he just hasn’t got the quality we need for a promotion push. I don’t even think he’s good enough for this division.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Nov 5, 2020 11:10:52 GMT
Poor for their winner. He should be playing further up as a right winger. Defending isn't his game.
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 5, 2020 11:30:18 GMT
I'm just surprised the move hasn't been played back far enough to blame Smith to be honest.
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Post by toad on Nov 5, 2020 11:52:47 GMT
Very bad defending for their third by Brown! And by Cousins. What on earth was that positioning? What did he think he was going to do from there? Right in the middle of no man's land. Once their player got past Brown he should have found Cousins cutting off the pull back and closing him down but no Cousins was watching from 5 yards away. Schoolboy error. At least Brown was trying. This. Cousins equally to blame for that goal. Offered no protection and didn't back up Brown as any defensive midfielder should do in that situation. That said, I'm not really sure what Jacob Brown is supposed to be. He's not a wing back and has offered nothing out wide. He looked at his best coming off the bench as a striker to partner Fletcher late on in games.
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Post by Miles Offside on Nov 5, 2020 12:01:46 GMT
looked alright as part of a front three against Brentford, but doesn't look ready to play in a front two and certainly not as a lone striker.
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Post by tachyon on Nov 5, 2020 12:11:34 GMT
3rd Goal. We're in big trouble once the Watford winger gets a step on Brown. There's a slim chance Cousins can engage him at the bye-line, but his body orientation is poor & that possibility vanishes once you add that as a data point. We get sucked into the six yard box & hand Watford the freedom of the central/edge of the box. Queuing up. Attachment Deleted
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 12:18:01 GMT
3rd Goal. We're in big trouble once the Watford winger gets a step on Brown. There's a slim chance Cousins can engage him at the bye-line, but his body orientation is poor & that possibility vanishes once you add that as a data point. We get sucked into the six yard box & hand Watford the freedom of the central/edge of the box. Queuing up. View AttachmentIs that Mikel top left on the first picture? He has to go into the box surely and try and cover the men queueing up. Clearly awful from Brown but you have to ask where the midfield were.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 12:21:40 GMT
3rd Goal. We're in big trouble once the Watford winger gets a step on Brown. There's a slim chance Cousins can engage him at the bye-line, but his body orientation is poor & that possibility vanishes once you add that as a data point. We get sucked into the six yard box & hand Watford the freedom of the central/edge of the box. Queuing up. View AttachmentIs that Mikel top left on the first picture? He has to go into the box surely and try and cover the men queueing up. Clearly awful from Brown but you have to ask where the midfield were. What a surprise it’s Mikel’s fault......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2020 12:24:22 GMT
Is that Mikel top left on the first picture? He has to go into the box surely and try and cover the men queueing up. Clearly awful from Brown but you have to ask where the midfield were. What a surprise it’s Mikel’s fault...... Not really, that's the problem. Cousins and Brown clearly shocking but watching it and seeing them queueing up where they are, you have to ask where the midfield are. Cousins we know is fuckarsing around on the right. Looks like we've found Mikel sauntering out to the right too for some unknown reason. I presume Thompson is in the box marking a Stoke defender? Edit - actually looks like Thompson is marking Hughes, so fair play to him.
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Post by tachyon on Nov 5, 2020 12:27:04 GMT
3rd Goal. We're in big trouble once the Watford winger gets a step on Brown. There's a slim chance Cousins can engage him at the bye-line, but his body orientation is poor & that possibility vanishes once you add that as a data point. We get sucked into the six yard box & hand Watford the freedom of the central/edge of the box. Queuing up. View AttachmentIs that Mikel top left on the first picture? He has to go into the box surely and try and cover the men queueing up. Clearly awful from Brown but you have to ask where the midfield were. Yes, it's Mikel. Distinct lack of midfield help for a level game, away at a title contender & deep into injury time. Slightly naive from Brown not to stick him on his backside by any means neccessary.
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