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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 19:42:42 GMT
Back for next season I assume, horrendous defensively but if the manager persists with five at the back perhaps there's room in the squad for him. Never seemed like one where his attitude was awful and I'm not aware he has ever met MON, so a clean slate I assume i.e. Afobe?
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 2, 2020 19:44:01 GMT
Any solid detail on this?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 2, 2020 19:45:09 GMT
Not a hope in hell he’ll be here next season
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 2, 2020 19:47:06 GMT
Remember how positively this was viewed at the time?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 19:49:44 GMT
Back for next season I assume, horrendous defensively but if the manager persists with five at the back perhaps there's room in the squad for him. Never seemed like one where his attitude was awful and I'm not aware he has ever met MON, so a clean slate I assume i.e. Afobe? He was actually sat near us for one home game, obviously when Celtic weren't playing. Saw him at half time walk through the concourse as well one game so I guess he still lives local. One was a mid week game
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 2, 2020 19:56:11 GMT
Would imagine the potential pool of loan clubs who'd offer to pay a substantial part of his wages has dwindled a bit, following his disappointing Celtic spell. Can't imagine there being a queue in the Bundesliga, for example? Certainly post-Covid, he must be on he kind of salary that he'll never get anywhere near ever again. russianfootballnews.com/an-interview-with-kurban-berdyev-part-two-moritz-bauer-is-very-professional-but-hes-got-huge-shortcomings/Always remember the interview with his manager in Russia. As a right wing-back - maybe he could offer something? But we've got three RBs on good money under contract for several years apiece now Even Lambert didn't trust him to play right-back. First thing he did was shift him.
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 2, 2020 19:56:32 GMT
Would be a good winger at this level.
Would also suit a back 5 which MON likes at times.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 2, 2020 19:56:53 GMT
Remember how positively this was viewed at the time? Yep. Add to the list of resent times signings that came with so much promise and turned to shite.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 20:02:59 GMT
Remember how positively this was viewed at the time? I was over the moon me, I'm embarrassed to say.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 20:06:29 GMT
Would imagine the potential pool of loan clubs who'd offer to pay a substantial part of his wages has dwindled a bit, following his disappointing Celtic spell. Can't imagine there being a queue in the Bundesliga, for example? Certainly post-Covid, he must be on he kind of salary that he'll never get anywhere near ever again. russianfootballnews.com/an-interview-with-kurban-berdyev-part-two-moritz-bauer-is-very-professional-but-hes-got-huge-shortcomings/Always remember the interview with his manager in Russia. As a right wing-back - maybe he could offer something? But we've got three RBs on good money under contract for several years apiece now Even Lambert didn't trust him to play right-back. First thing he did was shift him. He's a totally bizarre one, he's clearly very smart doesn't he like play piano, have a pilot's license and speak about five languages? At wing back I really think he could do something, seemed best close to the touchline and he'd have more of a free role. We'd need a more athletic centre half on the right than we currently have, someone quick and capable of making recovery runs . If we can become a decent footballing side and control games I really think he could be good, bring him on for the matches we 'should' dominate and then rotate with Smith/Edwards when it's games against the bigger sides. If we can sell any of them we should probably take the opportunity at this point frankly, and make the best of our other two.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 2, 2020 20:11:02 GMT
Remember how positively this was viewed at the time? Some are easily fooled by someone that can run a little.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 2, 2020 20:12:28 GMT
Would be a good winger at this level. Would also suit a back 5 which MON likes at times. His recent loan suggests otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 20:13:25 GMT
Would be a good winger at this level. Would also suit a back 5 which MON likes at times. Yes he would be a good winger, if he could cross to a team mate...that's just one of his shortcomings that he can't. Great hair tho..
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Post by neddy on Aug 2, 2020 20:14:29 GMT
Want his longer contract agreed when we didn’t have a manager? Down to Scholes this one?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 2, 2020 20:15:54 GMT
Want his longer contract agreed when we didn’t have a manager? Down to Scholes this one? Yes, no one knows who chose the players to get a new contract.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 20:17:14 GMT
Would imagine the potential pool of loan clubs who'd offer to pay a substantial part of his wages has dwindled a bit, following his disappointing Celtic spell. Can't imagine there being a queue in the Bundesliga, for example? Certainly post-Covid, he must be on he kind of salary that he'll never get anywhere near ever again. russianfootballnews.com/an-interview-with-kurban-berdyev-part-two-moritz-bauer-is-very-professional-but-hes-got-huge-shortcomings/Always remember the interview with his manager in Russia. As a right wing-back - maybe he could offer something? But we've got three RBs on good money under contract for several years apiece now Even Lambert didn't trust him to play right-back. First thing he did was shift him. He's a totally bizarre one, he's clearly very smart doesn't he like play piano, have a pilot's license and speak about five languages? At wing back I really think he could do something, seemed best close to the touchline and he'd have more of a free role. We'd need a more athletic centre half on the right than we currently have, someone quick and capable of making recovery runs . If we can become a decent footballing side and control games I really think he could be good, bring him on for the matches we 'should' dominate and then rotate with Smith/Edwards when it's games against the bigger sides. If we can sell any of them we should probably take the opportunity at this point frankly, and make the best of our other two. His other major shortcomings include extremely poor positional sense, poor tackles and zero understanding of the offside laws. But he's a great runner, and according to some, when you are, then all is forgiven...
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 2, 2020 20:36:43 GMT
Would imagine the potential pool of loan clubs who'd offer to pay a substantial part of his wages has dwindled a bit, following his disappointing Celtic spell. Can't imagine there being a queue in the Bundesliga, for example? Certainly post-Covid, he must be on he kind of salary that he'll never get anywhere near ever again. russianfootballnews.com/an-interview-with-kurban-berdyev-part-two-moritz-bauer-is-very-professional-but-hes-got-huge-shortcomings/Always remember the interview with his manager in Russia. As a right wing-back - maybe he could offer something? But we've got three RBs on good money under contract for several years apiece now Even Lambert didn't trust him to play right-back. First thing he did was shift him. He's a totally bizarre one, he's clearly very smart doesn't he like play piano, have a pilot's license and speak about five languages?
At wing back I really think he could do something, seemed best close to the touchline and he'd have more of a free role. We'd need a more athletic centre half on the right than we currently have, someone quick and capable of making recovery runs . If we can become a decent footballing side and control games I really think he could be good, bring him on for the matches we 'should' dominate and then rotate with Smith/Edwards when it's games against the bigger sides. If we can sell any of them we should probably take the opportunity at this point frankly, and make the best of our other two. When I was a lad, being an airline pilot was one of the most aspirational highly paid jobs you could aim for and way above the levels for a professional footballer. Maybe things have changed but couldn't he try out for being a commercial pilot instead?
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Post by lordb on Aug 2, 2020 20:38:48 GMT
Was really disappointed with his performances under Rowett, really poor. Like quite a few he was clearly more (like at all) motivated playing in the Premier League. Another loan for him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 20:57:18 GMT
He's a totally bizarre one, he's clearly very smart doesn't he like play piano, have a pilot's license and speak about five languages? At wing back I really think he could do something, seemed best close to the touchline and he'd have more of a free role. We'd need a more athletic centre half on the right than we currently have, someone quick and capable of making recovery runs . If we can become a decent footballing side and control games I really think he could be good, bring him on for the matches we 'should' dominate and then rotate with Smith/Edwards when it's games against the bigger sides. If we can sell any of them we should probably take the opportunity at this point frankly, and make the best of our other two. His other major shortcomings include extremely poor positional sense, poor tackles and zero understanding of the offside laws. But he's a great runner, and according to some, when you are, then all is forgiven... Well absolutely, that's why I'm advocating a quick centre half on his side and to use him only as a wing back. I don't believe he can play in a back four for exactly those reasons.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 2, 2020 20:59:11 GMT
He's shit, end of.
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Post by lordb on Aug 2, 2020 21:02:31 GMT
His other major shortcomings include extremely poor positional sense, poor tackles and zero understanding of the offside laws. But he's a great runner, and according to some, when you are, then all is forgiven... Well absolutely, that's why I'm advocating a quick centre half on his side and to use him only as a wing back. I don't believe he can play in a back four for exactly those reasons. Even at wing back you have to have some defensive nous. As an actual right winger in a 4 man midfield he might be if use.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 2, 2020 21:14:30 GMT
Fuck him off. Can’t be doing with attempting to reintegrate players who have failed and chuck the toys out. There’s hundreds of right backs out there begging for a chance to prove themselves. Somewhere.......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 21:26:34 GMT
His other major shortcomings include extremely poor positional sense, poor tackles and zero understanding of the offside laws. But he's a great runner, and according to some, when you are, then all is forgiven... Well absolutely, that's why I'm advocating a quick centre half on his side and to use him only as a wing back. I don't believe he can play in a back four for exactly those reasons. But you can't play him there, because he has no end product. Can't find a team mate.
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 2, 2020 21:49:38 GMT
Would imagine the potential pool of loan clubs who'd offer to pay a substantial part of his wages has dwindled a bit, following his disappointing Celtic spell. Can't imagine there being a queue in the Bundesliga, for example? Certainly post-Covid, he must be on he kind of salary that he'll never get anywhere near ever again. russianfootballnews.com/an-interview-with-kurban-berdyev-part-two-moritz-bauer-is-very-professional-but-hes-got-huge-shortcomings/Always remember the interview with his manager in Russia. As a right wing-back - maybe he could offer something? But we've got three RBs on good money under contract for several years apiece now Even Lambert didn't trust him to play right-back. First thing he did was shift him. Three? (RB's)
I've lost one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 5:58:25 GMT
I’d play him ahead of Ince, In fact, I’d play anyone ahead of Ince.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 3, 2020 6:26:34 GMT
Would imagine the potential pool of loan clubs who'd offer to pay a substantial part of his wages has dwindled a bit, following his disappointing Celtic spell. Can't imagine there being a queue in the Bundesliga, for example? Certainly post-Covid, he must be on he kind of salary that he'll never get anywhere near ever again. russianfootballnews.com/an-interview-with-kurban-berdyev-part-two-moritz-bauer-is-very-professional-but-hes-got-huge-shortcomings/Always remember the interview with his manager in Russia. As a right wing-back - maybe he could offer something? But we've got three RBs on good money under contract for several years apiece now Even Lambert didn't trust him to play right-back. First thing he did was shift him. Three? (RB's)
I've lost one.
I meant 3 including him, rsb. Smith (2022) Bauer (2023) Edwards (2024) By Championship standards, our combined right-back wage bill must be astronomical
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Post by harlequin on Aug 3, 2020 6:49:17 GMT
I'm still not convinced he's a bad player.
Lambert - rated, played in all but one game, moved to wing to allow Shaqiri to play centrally. Rowett - maligned Jones - High earner loaned out. Lennon - Sporadic appearances as a back up and lukewarm reception.
Objectively there isn't enough to write him off, in my opinion. Except the narrative an international defender can't defend.
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 3, 2020 8:25:47 GMT
Three? (RB's)
I've lost one.
I meant 3 including him, rsb. Smith (2022) Bauer (2023) Edwards (2024) By Championship standards, our combined right-back wage bill must be astronomical Ah.
My apols., I thought you meant three others of course.
But you're 127.3% right (see, told you my maths was dodgy), that must be an eye-watering RB wage bill for the majority of clubs outside the Prem top half.
Horrendous though that is in itself, it's not as if we can even expect a Rolls-Royce performance from any of them, week in, week out.
First choice of course would be ano loan to cover his wages and get a fee hopefully.
Other than that, maybe there is something in trying MoN's 3 / 5 / 2 with Moritz on the right and Josh on the left and then we'd just have to hope that attack is the best form of defence after all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 8:36:49 GMT
Three? (RB's)
I've lost one.
I meant 3 including him, rsb. Smith (2022) Bauer (2023) Edwards (2024) By Championship standards, our combined right-back wage bill must be astronomical You've got to be looking at around 80k+ a week? Bauer 30-40k (after his new contract) Edwards 20k Smith 20-30k
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 9:57:19 GMT
Exactly, our starting XI is probably his level
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