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Post by block23 on Sept 29, 2020 12:50:02 GMT
Was he really that bad? If so, I can’t remember it.... No, I don't think he was. I remember that many fans, including me and many on this Board, thought that him signing for 5 years was one of the few bright spots at the time of relegation. None of us knows what goes on behind the scenes but its certainly a very poor investment to have him on the books but not contributing. I have a bit of a soft spot for him because we randomly met his mum before the Swansea away game. She had fish and chips with us and came into the away end instead of the usual players comp in the stand. I remember her amazement when I told her she couldn't take her pint of lager up on to the terrace, but had to drink it on the concourse. I can’t recall many celebrating his new contract, but you be right. However, IMO a full back or wing back who can’t defend is a liability, and he was as bad a defender as I have seen for a while, and we have had a few😀 the goals that came from him either being out of position or unable to defend the far post man during the relegation run was ridiculous. Bad signing and very bad new contract, get rid
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 29, 2020 12:55:05 GMT
His contract was widely celebrated on here and understandably so, as he was one of the few to come out of the relegation season with any credit.
Then he was unrelentingly terrible in his Championship appearances and it started to become clear why Lambert had been reluctant to play him as a right back and why his manager at Rubin Kazan publicly dug him out for his lack of positional sense.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 29, 2020 12:59:09 GMT
No, I don't think he was. I remember that many fans, including me and many on this Board, thought that him signing for 5 years was one of the few bright spots at the time of relegation. None of us knows what goes on behind the scenes but its certainly a very poor investment to have him on the books but not contributing. I have a bit of a soft spot for him because we randomly met his mum before the Swansea away game. She had fish and chips with us and came into the away end instead of the usual players comp in the stand. I remember her amazement when I told her she couldn't take her pint of lager up on to the terrace, but had to drink it on the concourse. I can’t recall many celebrating his new contract, but you be right. However, IMO a full back or wing back who can’t defend is a liability, and he was as bad a defender as I have seen for a while, and we have had a few😀 the goals that came from him either being out of position or unable to defend the far post man during the relegation run was ridiculous. Bad signing and very bad new contract, get rid Ah the good old process
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 29, 2020 13:15:56 GMT
Agree but if he doesn’t go pay him £30k per week for nothing when we could use him possibly? I think there’s more chance of me and you lining up in a O’Neill team than Moritz Bauer Sorry mate I just have this mental picture of you ............
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 29, 2020 13:16:50 GMT
I think there’s more chance of me and you lining up in a O’Neill team than Moritz Bauer Sorry mate I just have this mental picture of you ............ Me and you wing backs 🤣🤣
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 29, 2020 13:22:29 GMT
Sorry mate I just have this mental picture of you ............ Me and you wing backs 🤣🤣 Talk about an oatcake meltdown!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 29, 2020 15:07:54 GMT
All this 'he can't defend' nonsense is just Oatcake bollocks. He was one of our best players when he signed and that was in the Prem.
We should be sending Edwards out on loan and giving Bauer an opportunity to see what he can do as a wing back.
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 29, 2020 15:14:07 GMT
Tend to agree with that.
(Without sight of him playing recently or a 2020 training report obviously.)
I know he fell out with GR but something must have gone spectacularly wrong elsewhere within the club though that he's not even near the squad and / or we can't even get a sniff of interest for him?
All very, very odd.
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Post by retrostoke on Sept 29, 2020 15:25:44 GMT
He can’t go before he’s bought a few beers. I seem to recall an offer to buy a few thousand pints if Berahino didn’t score “x” number of goals. I’m sure I haven’t dreamt that
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Post by retrostoke on Sept 29, 2020 15:31:06 GMT
Stoke City star puts £1,000 behind bet365 Stadium bar for Saido Berahino to start scoring.....😂😂
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Post by retrostoke on Sept 29, 2020 15:33:08 GMT
He said: “C’mon lads, we need all the support we can get this season. This boy Saido Berahino will be firing. Believe in him as I do or bet against me?!”
And after inquiring about the price of a pint at the bet365 Stadium – it’s £4 for a Marston’s – he has vowed to put £1,000 behind the bar – with the Sentinel holding the stake – and available if Berahino hasn’t scored by Christmas......... That went well for him 🙄. Has he paid up
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 29, 2020 15:39:59 GMT
All this 'he can't defend' nonsense is just Oatcake bollocks. He was one of our best players when he signed and that was in the Prem. We should be sending Edwards out on loan and giving Bauer an opportunity to see what he can do as a wing back. To use your words. Thats all bollocks.
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Post by block23 on Sept 29, 2020 16:06:01 GMT
All this 'he can't defend' nonsense is just Oatcake bollocks. He was one of our best players when he signed and that was in the Prem. We should be sending Edwards out on loan and giving Bauer an opportunity to see what he can do as a wing back. Hi mate, I am one of those “he can’t defend” people and it is an honest opinion, and in my view not bollocks, (I have no axe to grind with him, not a witch hunt. I’ve played FB and CH at a reasonable level, watched Stoke for over 50 years and have formed this view from what I have seen). As for Edwards, initially i had high hopes, but the last 12 months he has let himself down and probably needs to leave, but for me that is a different issue
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 29, 2020 16:06:12 GMT
All this 'he can't defend' nonsense is just Oatcake bollocks. He was one of our best players when he signed and that was in the Prem. We should be sending Edwards out on loan and giving Bauer an opportunity to see what he can do as a wing back. I mean, it isn't. He barely played as a defender in the Prem. Lambert played him on the wing more often than not. When he was played as a right back in the Championship he was absolutely all over the place more often than not, it was a car crash.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 29, 2020 16:07:47 GMT
Tend to agree with that. (Without sight of him playing recently or a 2020 training report obviously.) I know he fell out with GR but something must have gone spectacularly wrong elsewhere within the club though that he's not even near the squad and / or we can't even get a sniff of interest for him? All very, very odd. Is it though? MON seems very much to favour more defensively solid full backs than flyers, rightly or wrongly. Bauer is the opposite of that.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Sept 29, 2020 16:09:24 GMT
He basically flattered to deceive when he first came. He seemed quick but that soon became clear is not the case, merely his style of running gives the wrong impression otherwise he simply was not putting the effort in. To fond of bigging himself up on social media and most importantly now on too high a wage.
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2020 16:24:04 GMT
As a right midfielder (i.e. with an actual right back behind him) he may be of use
Would prefer any of our other options as RWB than Bauer in a 352
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 29, 2020 17:01:00 GMT
His contract was widely celebrated on here and understandably so, as he was one of the few to come out of the relegation season with any credit.Then he was unrelentingly terrible in his Championship appearances and it started to become clear why Lambert had been reluctant to play him as a right back and why his manager at Rubin Kazan publicly dug him out for his lack of positional sense. God knows why, he was crap where ever he played.
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 29, 2020 17:58:01 GMT
If he couldn't make it at Celtic then he would struggle in League 1
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 29, 2020 18:10:15 GMT
Tend to agree with that. (Without sight of him playing recently or a 2020 training report obviously.) I know he fell out with GR but something must have gone spectacularly wrong elsewhere within the club though that he's not even near the squad and / or we can't even get a sniff of interest for him? All very, very odd. Is it though? MON seems very much to favour more defensively solid full backs than flyers, rightly or wrongly. Bauer is the opposite of that. And yet he plays wingbacks? (Or, seemingly, would like to if we had any good ones.)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 29, 2020 18:32:00 GMT
Is it though? MON seems very much to favour more defensively solid full backs than flyers, rightly or wrongly. Bauer is the opposite of that. And yet he plays wingbacks? (Or, seemingly, would like to if we had any good ones.) Head scratcher isn’t it?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 29, 2020 18:43:09 GMT
Was his man of the match performance at Old Trafford a fluke? I know it's not saying much, but he was one of our better players in the relegation season - Old Trafford wasn't a one-off. Bauer and especially Ndiaye were about the only positives from January onwards.
Admittedly he's looked a bit pants since, but so did plenty of other players under Rowett and Jones. We haven't seen much of Bauer and he didn't get much of a run at Celtic did he? I wouldn't question O'Neill's judgement on not playing Bauer anyway, and maybe there is another reason he's not playing.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 29, 2020 19:21:41 GMT
Sorry mate I just have this mental picture of you ............ Me and you wing backs 🤣🤣 Bingo wings possibly....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 11:16:27 GMT
Looks like we're stuck with the Austrian chuckle brothers then?
Surely we would let them go for next to nothing just to stop them stinking the place out, but still no interest?
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Post by lordb on Oct 4, 2020 11:19:38 GMT
Looks like we're stuck with the Austrian chuckle brothers then? Surely we would let them go for next to nothing just to stop them stinking the place out, but still no interest? Wimmer is on big money so zero chance of anyone taking him even on a free A loan with Stoke paying x% of his wages is the only option and still might not happen😞 Bauer isn't as expensive but would still be hard to move on. Someone might take him on loan though
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 4, 2020 11:23:48 GMT
Looks like we're stuck with the Austrian chuckle brothers then? Surely we would let them go for next to nothing just to stop them stinking the place out, but still no interest? Wimmer is on big money so zero chance of anyone taking him even on a free A loan with Stoke paying x% of his wages is the only option and still might not happen😞 Bauer isn't as expensive but would still be hard to move on. Someone might take him on loan though Wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't much difference in Bauer and Wimmer's wages, to be honest? You'd think Wimmer would have had a wage reduction - and Bauer signed a 5-yr deal -presumably on improved terms - post-relegation, didn't he? Maybe they're both in the 30k+ range.... Surely we can loan them both somewhere. We've got 24 hours to get them abroad, so looks unlikely - but paying 95% of their wages and keeping them playing and on the radar is surely better than paying 100% of their wages for them to train with the u23s (if they're even doing that now!)
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 4, 2020 11:29:37 GMT
Due another contact extension isn't he?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 4, 2020 11:32:09 GMT
The problem is: what level of club would be interested even forgetting the financial aspect - if we were, for example, willing to pay 90-95% of their wages?
Where do you go after anonymous loans in Scotland and mid-table Belgium?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 11:34:29 GMT
Looks like we're stuck with the Austrian chuckle brothers then? Surely we would let them go for next to nothing just to stop them stinking the place out, but still no interest? Wimmer is on big money so zero chance of anyone taking him even on a free A loan with Stoke paying x% of his wages is the only option and still might not happen😞 Bauer isn't as expensive but would still be hard to move on. Someone might take him on loan though Sorry I meant on loan with us paying most of their wages just to get them out.
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Post by lordb on Oct 4, 2020 11:42:43 GMT
Wimmer is on big money so zero chance of anyone taking him even on a free A loan with Stoke paying x% of his wages is the only option and still might not happen😞 Bauer isn't as expensive but would still be hard to move on. Someone might take him on loan though Sorry I meant on loan with us paying most of their wages just to get them out. Who knows? However suspect only clubs abroad would be interested in Wimmer so we have a few days to shift on loan if so Bauer might get interest here for a loan Ipswich?
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