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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 4, 2020 11:47:21 GMT
Sorry I meant on loan with us paying most of their wages just to get them out. Who knows? However suspect only clubs abroad would be interested in Wimmer so we have a few days to shift on loan if so Bauer might get interest here for a loan Ipswich? That'd be the test - if they're still here after the first deadline, and they do get interest from a lower-Champ club or League One, would either of them actually be up for a wet Tuesday behind closed doors at Doncaster?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 13, 2020 7:08:32 GMT
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 13, 2020 7:10:36 GMT
Its funny because we actually need a RWB to challenge with Smith.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 12:21:50 GMT
Is he that bad at RWB?
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 13, 2020 12:23:38 GMT
I don’t even think it’s down to footballing reasons anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 13:47:08 GMT
I don’t even think it’s down to footballing reasons anymore. No, I guess not. We used to hear nothing but what a good egg he was but perhaps it was just polishing a turd. Still, in purely footballing terms don’t see how he wouldn’t be an effective RWB in this league.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 13:53:14 GMT
That he’s training away from the club says all that needs to be said about his chances to play for us again to be honest. It’s a shame. I like Smith, especially in a back four. I feel his crossing is good etc. However, he’s not naturally suited to that right wing back slot, a position seemingly made for players like Bauer. Who knows what was said/done between Bauer and O’Neill or Bauer and the board.
It seems odd that Afobe had the opportunity to come back in for a while, whilst Bauer has not been afforded that same lifeline. You have to imagine something has gone on behind the scenes.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 13, 2020 15:15:37 GMT
I don’t even think it’s down to footballing reasons anymore. It can't be can it he has to be better suited to the wing back role than any of the other alternatives, what I don't understand is we now on paper have a RB and LB who are suited to purely defensive duties and we are now trying to play them as fecking wing backs
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 15:28:16 GMT
That he’s training away from the club says all that needs to be said about his chances to play for us again to be honest. It’s a shame. I like Smith, especially in a back four. I feel his crossing is good etc. However, he’s not naturally suited to that right wing back slot, a position seemingly made for players like Bauer. Who knows what was said/done between Bauer and O’Neill or Bauer and the board. It seems odd that Afobe had the opportunity to come back in for a while, whilst Bauer has not been afforded that same lifeline. You have to imagine something has gone on behind the scenes. He actually was sat next to me a couple of home game at the back end of last season and in the bar at ht. Hope h gets a chance
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Post by realstokebloke on Oct 13, 2020 15:39:42 GMT
Has he not even played any U23's recently either?
You'd think MoN would at least run the rule over a very expensive (in the scheme of things) squad 'member'?
All very odd.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 13, 2020 15:58:43 GMT
Whether he has something in his contract about a payment if he plays a certain number of games etc. There's been a 2 week break so if they weren't integrated back into the picture then, likely is they never will be..
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 26, 2020 18:46:27 GMT
Wonder if the appearance of the terrible twosome in the u23s mean they are actually in the squad we named last week and there is a slight chance at least one of them may actually figure at some point before January?
Seems strange there'd be a thawing after they'd been exiled for so long and they'd actually take up valuable development time for players we presumably do see a future for?
Mind you, if we want to loan them in January, they will need to have actually kicked a ball at some point in the calendar year
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 26, 2020 18:53:00 GMT
Wonder if the appearance of the terrible twosome in the u23s mean they are actually in the squad we named last week and there is a slight chance at least one of them may actually figure at some point before January? Seems strange there'd be a thawing after they'd been exiled for so long and they'd actually take up valuable development time for players we presumably do see a future for? Mind you, if we want to loan them in January, they will need to have actually kicked a ball at some point in the calendar year No chance Wimmer will be seen in an XXL Stoke shirt again. Maybe Bauer if there's an injury crises but you can still see MON using Collins and Brown at RB/RWB before he even thinks about Bauer.
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Post by citynickscfc on Oct 26, 2020 19:12:54 GMT
Wonder if the appearance of the terrible twosome in the u23s mean they are actually in the squad we named last week and there is a slight chance at least one of them may actually figure at some point before January? Seems strange there'd be a thawing after they'd been exiled for so long and they'd actually take up valuable development time for players we presumably do see a future for? Mind you, if we want to loan them in January, they will need to have actually kicked a ball at some point in the calendar year No chance Wimmer will be seen in an XXL Stoke shirt again. Maybe Bauer if there's an injury crises but you can still see MON using Collins and Brown at RB/RWB before he even thinks about Bauer. They are playing now and Wimmer is wearing an XXL Stoke shirt...
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 26, 2020 19:17:56 GMT
For some reason, the EFL are keeping who is in the official squads hush hush theathletic.co.uk/2159352/2020/10/26/haaland-solskjaer-liverpool-training-ground-united-data-scientists-drug-tests/?EFL keeps new squad lists secretMesut Ozil was the highest-profile casualty when Premier League clubs were asked to submit their official 25-man squads last week. He was far from the only senior player who will have to sit out matches until January at the earliest after failing to make the cut at their team. Down in the EFL, however, it is not quite so clear-cut. A new rule has been introduced this season stipulating that each club must submit a list, with a limit of 25 players for Championship teams and 22 for those in League One and League Two. The deadline was last Tuesday. All fairly straightforward, apart from the delay involving Nottingham Forest’s proposed loan arrangement for West Bromwich Albion’s Kamil Grosicki, which went through 21 seconds after the 5pm deadline and subsequently had to go to an appeal. The difference is that the EFL, unlike the Premier League, has not publicised the squad lists and when contacted by The Athletic it was not prepared to share who was in and who was out. All very peculiar — and our understanding is that position might eventually change. For now, however, it remains a guessing game when it comes to which EFL players have missed the cut.
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Post by liathroid on Oct 26, 2020 19:38:31 GMT
Moritz just scored
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 26, 2020 19:53:43 GMT
Seems to have scored two according to the game thread
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 26, 2020 19:55:18 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 26, 2020 20:03:48 GMT
Seems to have scored two according to the game thread Sign him up
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Post by lordb on Oct 26, 2020 20:05:50 GMT
For some reason, the EFL are keeping who is in the official squads hush hush theathletic.co.uk/2159352/2020/10/26/haaland-solskjaer-liverpool-training-ground-united-data-scientists-drug-tests/?EFL keeps new squad lists secretMesut Ozil was the highest-profile casualty when Premier League clubs were asked to submit their official 25-man squads last week. He was far from the only senior player who will have to sit out matches until January at the earliest after failing to make the cut at their team. Down in the EFL, however, it is not quite so clear-cut. A new rule has been introduced this season stipulating that each club must submit a list, with a limit of 25 players for Championship teams and 22 for those in League One and League Two. The deadline was last Tuesday. All fairly straightforward, apart from the delay involving Nottingham Forest’s proposed loan arrangement for West Bromwich Albion’s Kamil Grosicki, which went through 21 seconds after the 5pm deadline and subsequently had to go to an appeal. The difference is that the EFL, unlike the Premier League, has not publicised the squad lists and when contacted by The Athletic it was not prepared to share who was in and who was out. All very peculiar — and our understanding is that position might eventually change. For now, however, it remains a guessing game when it comes to which EFL players have missed the cut. If Wimmer and Bauer are not in the 25 why play them tonight?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 26, 2020 20:08:25 GMT
For some reason, the EFL are keeping who is in the official squads hush hush theathletic.co.uk/2159352/2020/10/26/haaland-solskjaer-liverpool-training-ground-united-data-scientists-drug-tests/?EFL keeps new squad lists secretMesut Ozil was the highest-profile casualty when Premier League clubs were asked to submit their official 25-man squads last week. He was far from the only senior player who will have to sit out matches until January at the earliest after failing to make the cut at their team. Down in the EFL, however, it is not quite so clear-cut. A new rule has been introduced this season stipulating that each club must submit a list, with a limit of 25 players for Championship teams and 22 for those in League One and League Two. The deadline was last Tuesday. All fairly straightforward, apart from the delay involving Nottingham Forest’s proposed loan arrangement for West Bromwich Albion’s Kamil Grosicki, which went through 21 seconds after the 5pm deadline and subsequently had to go to an appeal. The difference is that the EFL, unlike the Premier League, has not publicised the squad lists and when contacted by The Athletic it was not prepared to share who was in and who was out. All very peculiar — and our understanding is that position might eventually change. For now, however, it remains a guessing game when it comes to which EFL players have missed the cut. If Wimmer and Bauer are not in the 25 why play them tonight? It does indicate they are, yeah. Although regular u23 football would make them more loanable come January anyway, nudging a year since any activity?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 26, 2020 20:20:05 GMT
If Wimmer and Bauer are not in the 25 why play them tonight? It does indicate they are, yeah. Although regular u23 football would make them more loanable come January anyway, nudging a year since any activity? Maybe MoN has seen the light and Wimmer is our new LCB
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Post by lordb on Oct 26, 2020 20:24:59 GMT
It does indicate they are, yeah. Although regular u23 football would make them more loanable come January anyway, nudging a year since any activity? Maybe MoN has seen the light and Wimmer is our new LCB I hate writing players off. Just can't imagine he's in any way playable any more. Would be incredible
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Oct 26, 2020 20:25:05 GMT
It does indicate they are, yeah. Although regular u23 football would make them more loanable come January anyway, nudging a year since any activity? Maybe MoN has seen the light and Wimmer is our new LCB ...waiting for an athletic board member to make a joke of the word "light" and Wimmer in the same sentence.
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 26, 2020 20:28:42 GMT
I have been thinking much the same all evening. If we are playing the 2 Austrians in an under 23 game we are either trying to get them fit, or rehabilitate them. The logical and "ideal" outcome of such an exercise would be to have them available for first team duty if needed, with injuries and a tight game schedule, but for that to happen they would have to be named in the official squad, and we don't as yet know if we have a squad list, or who is in it.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 26, 2020 20:32:36 GMT
I have been thinking much the same all evening. If we are playing the 2 Austrians in an under 23 game we are either trying to get them fit, or rehabilitate them. The logical and "ideal" outcome of such an exercise would be to have them available for first team duty if needed, with injuries and a tight game schedule, but for that to happen they would have to be named in the official squad, and we don't as yet know if we have a squad list, or who is in it. It'll be interesting if either makes it in. Ive no problem putting Bauer in, I think he needs a chance as RWB under the new regime. It's not as if we've got any other options.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 26, 2020 20:34:27 GMT
You've got to laugh, haven't you? Good old Mo
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Post by a on Oct 26, 2020 20:34:45 GMT
Go on Moritz lad
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 26, 2020 20:37:48 GMT
I have been thinking much the same all evening. If we are playing the 2 Austrians in an under 23 game we are either trying to get them fit, or rehabilitate them. The logical and "ideal" outcome of such an exercise would be to have them available for first team duty if needed, with injuries and a tight game schedule, but for that to happen they would have to be named in the official squad, and we don't as yet know if we have a squad list, or who is in it. It'll be interesting if either makes it in. Ive no problem putting Bauer in, I think he needs a chance as RWB under the new regime. It's not as if we've got any other options. It does seem odd to have sent Edwards on loan and keep Bauer in the cold when there is no cover/competition for Smith at RB/RWB
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Post by lordb on Oct 26, 2020 20:40:40 GMT
It'll be interesting if either makes it in. Ive no problem putting Bauer in, I think he needs a chance as RWB under the new regime. It's not as if we've got any other options. It does seem odd to have sent Edwards on loan and keep Bauer in the cold when there is no cover/competition for Smith at RB/RWB Brown is cover for RWB, would certainly expect him to play there before Bauer However RB we have no one other than Bauer who has proven a liability there. Suspect Collins would play RB before Bauer would.
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