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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 11, 2020 21:01:01 GMT
Is there any chance the season could still be scrapped for us? Us being notoriously slow starters, not playing any friendlies, no Joe Allen and potentially no MON in the build up is scaring me! Help! I was hoping it would be and we’d stay up based on the calculation. The restart is basically a 7 game lottery. Form is out the window, any one can beat anyone... then again the championship is normally like this
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Post by lordb on Jun 11, 2020 21:03:13 GMT
Is there any chance the season could still be scrapped for us? Us being notoriously slow starters, not playing any friendlies, no Joe Allen and potentially no MON in the build up is scaring me! Help! I was hoping it would be and we’d stay up based on the calculation. The restart is basically a 7 game lottery. Form is out the window, any one can beat anyone... then again the championship is normally like this 9 games.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 12, 2020 8:53:29 GMT
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Post by raythesailor on Jun 13, 2020 10:06:32 GMT
Is there any info available about how Michael is doing ?
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Post by thfc67 on Jun 14, 2020 8:49:38 GMT
"Stoke were rushed out of the Academy very quickly indeed. United's officials didn't hang about – they had Stoke out of there really quickly as you'd imagine." The state of that sentence. A Norwich City player has tested positive after tests carried out last Thursday and Friday. Norwich played Spurs in a friendly on Friday, but, I quote: Norwich played Tottenham in a friendly on Friday but players of both sides who may have come into contact with the player will not have to self-isolate as they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.So, Stoke City players and officials are "rushed" off site before a ball is kicked. But there's no need for Norwich or Tottenham players to worry that an infected player has been mingling with them? ...they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.I search for this "advice" but can't find it. If two players, one infected, both hot and sweaty, are chasing a ball at full pelt, puffing and panting. How long does it take the virus to jump from one to the other? If I was a Norwich or Tottenham player, I would be seriously worried right now, wondering whether I have picked up the virus, or one of my team mates has, and if I'll pass it on to my immediate family. I'd also, consider refusing to play The PL go on about safety being their main concern when we all know this is bollocks. Money is their main concern. If a Norwich City or Tottenham player testes positive in the next week, then it can be assumed they caught it of the infected Norwich player. Both teams should have to isolate for two weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 8:50:53 GMT
"Stoke were rushed out of the Academy very quickly indeed. United's officials didn't hang about – they had Stoke out of there really quickly as you'd imagine." The state of that sentence. A Norwich City player has tested positive after tests carried out last Thursday and Friday. Norwich played Spurs in a friendly on Friday, but, I quote: Norwich played Tottenham in a friendly on Friday but players of both sides who may have come into contact with the player will not have to self-isolate as they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.So, Stoke City players and officials are "rushed" off site before a ball is kicked. But there's no need for Norwich or Tottenham players to worry that an infected player has been mingling with them? ...they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.I search for this "advice" but can't find it. If two players, one infected, both hot and sweaty, are chasing a ball at full pelt, puffing and panting. How long does it take the virus to jump from one to the other? If I was a Norwich or Tottenham player, I would be seriously worried right now, wondering whether I have picked up the virus, or one of my team mates has, and if I'll pass it on to my immediate family. I'd also, consider refusing to play The PL go on about safety being their main concern when we all know this is bollocks. Money is their main concern. If a Norwich City or Tottenham player testes positive in the next week, then it can be assumed they caught it of the infected Norwich player. Both teams should have to isolate for two weeks. Too much moaning there mate. Fingers are firmly in the ears and it's now all about the money.
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 14, 2020 10:56:22 GMT
"Stoke were rushed out of the Academy very quickly indeed. United's officials didn't hang about – they had Stoke out of there really quickly as you'd imagine." The state of that sentence. A Norwich City player has tested positive after tests carried out last Thursday and Friday. Norwich played Spurs in a friendly on Friday, but, I quote: Norwich played Tottenham in a friendly on Friday but players of both sides who may have come into contact with the player will not have to self-isolate as they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.So, Stoke City players and officials are "rushed" off site before a ball is kicked. But there's no need for Norwich or Tottenham players to worry that an infected player has been mingling with them? ...they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.I search for this "advice" but can't find it. If two players, one infected, both hot and sweaty, are chasing a ball at full pelt, puffing and panting. How long does it take the virus to jump from one to the other? If I was a Norwich or Tottenham player, I would be seriously worried right now, wondering whether I have picked up the virus, or one of my team mates has, and if I'll pass it on to my immediate family. I'd also, consider refusing to play The PL go on about safety being their main concern when we all know this is bollocks. Money is their main concern. If a Norwich City or Tottenham player testes positive in the next week, then it can be assumed they caught it of the infected Norwich player. Both teams should have to isolate for two weeks. The contact tracing suggest those who have been within a 2 metre distance for more than 15 minutes have to self isolate. This Carrie's no more risk than running past or behind someone in the street, outside transmission make the virus very weak compared to indoors. The main point of contact could come from picking up a ball for a throw in that has had several hands on it, especially after players have been wiping mouths, noses etc, having said that though the ball will have been kicked around grass so you would expect any pathogens to be relatively low. It will be enclosed spaces like coaches, dressing rooms where team mates may be at risk but minimal for opposition
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Post by hotterpotter on Jun 14, 2020 11:13:13 GMT
It's thanks to this rule that I can have sex with an infected person six and a half times without having to self-isolate 😉
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Post by thfc67 on Jun 14, 2020 11:18:03 GMT
A Norwich City player has tested positive after tests carried out last Thursday and Friday. Norwich played Spurs in a friendly on Friday, but, I quote: Norwich played Tottenham in a friendly on Friday but players of both sides who may have come into contact with the player will not have to self-isolate as they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.So, Stoke City players and officials are "rushed" off site before a ball is kicked. But there's no need for Norwich or Tottenham players to worry that an infected player has been mingling with them? ...they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.I search for this "advice" but can't find it. If two players, one infected, both hot and sweaty, are chasing a ball at full pelt, puffing and panting. How long does it take the virus to jump from one to the other? If I was a Norwich or Tottenham player, I would be seriously worried right now, wondering whether I have picked up the virus, or one of my team mates has, and if I'll pass it on to my immediate family. I'd also, consider refusing to play The PL go on about safety being their main concern when we all know this is bollocks. Money is their main concern. If a Norwich City or Tottenham player testes positive in the next week, then it can be assumed they caught it of the infected Norwich player. Both teams should have to isolate for two weeks. The contact tracing suggest those who have been within a 2 metre distance for more than 15 minutes have to self isolate. This Carrie's no more risk than running past or behind someone in the street, outside transmission make the virus very weak compared to indoors. The main point of contact could come from picking up a ball for a throw in that has had several hands on it, especially after players have been wiping mouths, noses etc, having said that though the ball will have been kicked around grass so you would expect any pathogens to be relatively low. It will be enclosed spaces like coaches, dressing rooms where team mates may be at risk but minimal for opposition My point is, if it is deemed safe for footballers, who have played a game which featured an infected player to carry on as normal. Why did the Man Utd v Stoke game get called off?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 14, 2020 11:57:15 GMT
"Stoke were rushed out of the Academy very quickly indeed. United's officials didn't hang about – they had Stoke out of there really quickly as you'd imagine." The state of that sentence. A Norwich City player has tested positive after tests carried out last Thursday and Friday. Norwich played Spurs in a friendly on Friday, but, I quote: Norwich played Tottenham in a friendly on Friday but players of both sides who may have come into contact with the player will not have to self-isolate as they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.So, Stoke City players and officials are "rushed" off site before a ball is kicked. But there's no need for Norwich or Tottenham players to worry that an infected player has been mingling with them? ...they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.I search for this "advice" but can't find it. If two players, one infected, both hot and sweaty, are chasing a ball at full pelt, puffing and panting. How long does it take the virus to jump from one to the other? If I was a Norwich or Tottenham player, I would be seriously worried right now, wondering whether I have picked up the virus, or one of my team mates has, and if I'll pass it on to my immediate family. I'd also, consider refusing to play The PL go on about safety being their main concern when we all know this is bollocks. Money is their main concern. If a Norwich City or Tottenham player testes positive in the next week, then it can be assumed they caught it of the infected Norwich player. Both teams should have to isolate for two weeks. Different rules for Man Utd they just make them up to suit them , have done for years ,
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 14, 2020 12:25:27 GMT
"Stoke were rushed out of the Academy very quickly indeed. United's officials didn't hang about – they had Stoke out of there really quickly as you'd imagine." The state of that sentence. A Norwich City player has tested positive after tests carried out last Thursday and Friday. Norwich played Spurs in a friendly on Friday, but, I quote: Norwich played Tottenham in a friendly on Friday but players of both sides who may have come into contact with the player will not have to self-isolate as they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.So, Stoke City players and officials are "rushed" off site before a ball is kicked. But there's no need for Norwich or Tottenham players to worry that an infected player has been mingling with them? ...they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.I search for this "advice" but can't find it. If two players, one infected, both hot and sweaty, are chasing a ball at full pelt, puffing and panting. How long does it take the virus to jump from one to the other? If I was a Norwich or Tottenham player, I would be seriously worried right now, wondering whether I have picked up the virus, or one of my team mates has, and if I'll pass it on to my immediate family. I'd also, consider refusing to play The PL go on about safety being their main concern when we all know this is bollocks. Money is their main concern. If a Norwich City or Tottenham player testes positive in the next week, then it can be assumed they caught it of the infected Norwich player. Both teams should have to isolate for two weeks. The norwich player tested positive after the game not immediately before it. Therein lies the difference.
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Post by thfc67 on Jun 14, 2020 13:02:37 GMT
A Norwich City player has tested positive after tests carried out last Thursday and Friday. Norwich played Spurs in a friendly on Friday, but, I quote: Norwich played Tottenham in a friendly on Friday but players of both sides who may have come into contact with the player will not have to self-isolate as they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.So, Stoke City players and officials are "rushed" off site before a ball is kicked. But there's no need for Norwich or Tottenham players to worry that an infected player has been mingling with them? ...they will not have been deemed to have been in contact for long enough, according to government advice.I search for this "advice" but can't find it. If two players, one infected, both hot and sweaty, are chasing a ball at full pelt, puffing and panting. How long does it take the virus to jump from one to the other? If I was a Norwich or Tottenham player, I would be seriously worried right now, wondering whether I have picked up the virus, or one of my team mates has, and if I'll pass it on to my immediate family. I'd also, consider refusing to play The PL go on about safety being their main concern when we all know this is bollocks. Money is their main concern. If a Norwich City or Tottenham player testes positive in the next week, then it can be assumed they caught it of the infected Norwich player. Both teams should have to isolate for two weeks. The norwich player tested positive after the game not immediately before it. Therein lies the difference. No. His test was before the game, the result came through afterwards. He played when infected.
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Post by thfc67 on Jun 14, 2020 13:04:35 GMT
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 14, 2020 13:22:50 GMT
The norwich player tested positive after the game not immediately before it. Therein lies the difference. No. His test was before the game, the result came through afterwards. He played when infected. So he was found to be tested positive after the game like Dave said. If the test had of come through immediately before I'm sure it would have been called off.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 14, 2020 13:57:10 GMT
No. His test was before the game, the result came through afterwards. He played when infected. So he was found to be tested positive after the game like Dave said. If the test had of come through immediately before I'm sure it would have been called off. Doubt it it’s fine to play as long as you don’t infect Man Utd , ironic given they have contaminated football for so long with cheating . Gamesmanship , bullying , media influence etc
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 14, 2020 14:03:43 GMT
The norwich player tested positive after the game not immediately before it. Therein lies the difference. No. His test was before the game, the result came through afterwards. He played when infected. Exactly. The positive test result came through AFTER the game was played. When we were supposed to play Manure, Michael O'Neil's positive result came through BEFORE we played them, hence the game was called off at last minute. I'm all for a spot of Manure bashing but it's hardly a case of them being treated differently to everyone else as a certain poster suggested above.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 14, 2020 14:13:08 GMT
No. His test was before the game, the result came through afterwards. He played when infected. Exactly. The positive test result came through AFTER the game was played. When we were supposed to play Manure, Michael O'Neil's positive result came through BEFORE we played them, hence the game was called off at last minute. I'm all for a spot of Manure bashing but it's hardly a case of them being treated differently to everyone else as a certain poster suggested above. Dave they have been treated differently for years by authorities and referee alike Eg Neville two reds v etherington , Rooney elbow on faye , Ronaldo Kick out at wilko all reds if they played for anyone else all not given and one even allowed to be subbed straight after grinning Ferguson banning BBC for a story on corruption the list is endless and will continue I suspect
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Post by thfc67 on Jun 14, 2020 14:26:33 GMT
No. His test was before the game, the result came through afterwards. He played when infected. So he was found to be tested positive after the game like Dave said. If the test had of come through immediately before I'm sure it would have been called off. Yes, but my point is, and I think a lot of you are missing this: If a player is found to be infected just before a game he is not allowed to play because he could infect other players.
A player who has played a game who is found afterwards to have been infected is told isolate, but the players he played with/against are not, even though they could be infected.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 14, 2020 15:36:12 GMT
So he was found to be tested positive after the game like Dave said. If the test had of come through immediately before I'm sure it would have been called off. Yes, but my point is, and I think a lot of you are missing this: If a player is found to be infected just before a game he is not allowed to play because he could infect other players.
A player who has played a game who is found afterwards to have been infected is told isolate, but the players he played with/against are not, even though they could be infected.I don't think we're missing anything. MON's positive test was what his 5th test? These players and staff are being tested over and over which is why the other players aren't now being told to isolate for 14 days. So the point I'm getting at is you wouldn't knowingly let a friendly go ahead if a positive result for someone came through shortly before it began just to be properly cautious. I'm sure everyone from the Norwich vs spurs friendly were tested again after the news and already know if it spread.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 14, 2020 16:04:30 GMT
So he was found to be tested positive after the game like Dave said. If the test had of come through immediately before I'm sure it would have been called off. Yes, but my point is, and I think a lot of you are missing this: If a player is found to be infected just before a game he is not allowed to play because he could infect other players.
A player who has played a game who is found afterwards to have been infected is told isolate, but the players he played with/against are not, even though they could be infected.Everyone knows that though mate. You are telling us something we already know. No one will take issue with what you are saying because they are the facts.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 14, 2020 17:36:00 GMT
So he was found to be tested positive after the game like Dave said. If the test had of come through immediately before I'm sure it would have been called off. Yes, but my point is, and I think a lot of you are missing this: If a player is found to be infected just before a game he is not allowed to play because he could infect other players.
A player who has played a game who is found afterwards to have been infected is told isolate, but the players he played with/against are not, even though they could be infected.Isn't the reason for this that studies show players on average spend less than 60 seconds at a time in close contact with other players, at 2m its 15 mins to pick up enough of a viral load to be infected no idea time for being next to someone but assuming they arent coughing and spluttering over you its unlikely to be enough hence the social distancing when they can not shaking hands, celebrating goals etc.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 16, 2020 21:10:50 GMT
Do we know how the boss is getting on?
There must have been another round of tests by now mustn't there? Do we know if new test was negative?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 21:45:09 GMT
No. His test was before the game, the result came through afterwards. He played when infected. Exactly. The positive test result came through AFTER the game was played. When we were supposed to play Manure, Michael O'Neil's positive result came through BEFORE we played them, hence the game was called off at last minute. I'm all for a spot of Manure bashing but it's hardly a case of them being treated differently to everyone else as a certain poster suggested above. They did the same as we would have done. Totally the correct thing to do
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Post by citynickscfc on Jun 16, 2020 23:08:20 GMT
Any updates?
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Post by kustokie on Jun 16, 2020 23:35:58 GMT
I think about 30% of the people who have had it have been asymptomatic. Also it has been said that they don't usually pass it on. Anecdotes aren’t really scientifically valid but that doesn’t matter these days anyway. My son, picked up the virus from a friend who was asymptomatic (his sister later tested +ve). My son never had any symptoms but passed it his wife a baby. One of those then gave to his wife’s parents. All had either mild or no symptoms, except his mother-in-law who was very poorly for several weeks. The symptoms are unpredictable and the virus is very infectious. It’s hard to know how easily asymptomatic people pass on the disease because they are not easy to trace without extensive testing.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 17, 2020 0:51:41 GMT
Yes, but my point is, and I think a lot of you are missing this: If a player is found to be infected just before a game he is not allowed to play because he could infect other players.
A player who has played a game who is found afterwards to have been infected is told isolate, but the players he played with/against are not, even though they could be infected.Isn't the reason for this that studies show players on average spend less than 60 seconds at a time in close contact with other players, at 2m its 15 mins to pick up enough of a viral load to be infected no idea time for being next to someone but assuming they arent coughing and spluttering over you its unlikely to be enough hence the social distancing when they can not shaking hands, celebrating goals etc. The 15-min rule only applies if two people are talking for 15 min and they are within 2 m of each other. One drop of respiratory fluid into the face or face could be enough to get a person infected (including into the eye because tears drain into the throat) It only takes 1,000 viral particles in the respiratory tract to get infected. There are 100 million in one drop.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 17, 2020 12:10:19 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 17, 2020 12:16:50 GMT
One is a staff member at Brentford rather than a player.
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 17, 2020 12:57:24 GMT
One is a staff member at Brentford rather than a player. Bloody hell I hope it isnt anyone at stoke, really cannot afford corona to deal us any bad luck, need to get away from the bottom asap with all of our best players. I wonder if the authorities are hot on to those players isolating. In times of desperation the teams could get them back playing quickly
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Post by toppercorner on Jun 17, 2020 14:46:05 GMT
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