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Post by DunnetHeadMoonraker on Mar 2, 2020 14:11:05 GMT
What sort of inbred goes to football to fight? Should be castrated to save the world from such creatures!The castration of football hooligans has been advocated by Professor Duff of Cambridge University and the community worker Sally Barnes. Have a look at
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 2, 2020 14:36:19 GMT
Funnily enough I did ask one police woman why they hadn't arrested them (when she said a group of Stoke fans had caused some trouble) when they knew who they were and had all this intel on them she said "they ran away" I genuinely believe some people high up in the Police think it's ok to adopt the school/armed forces mentality where football fans are concerned - "Right then, a couple of them have misbehaved so we're well within our rights to punish them all" That’s absolutely right mate. When we protested about how they were treating us (our little group of old, young, male and female) we were told that WE started it, like all Stoke fans are just one person! BM
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Mar 2, 2020 15:23:03 GMT
I genuinely believe some people high up in the Police think it's ok to adopt the school/armed forces mentality where football fans are concerned - "Right then, a couple of them have misbehaved so we're well within our rights to punish them all" That’s absolutely right mate. When we protested about how they were treating us (our little group of old, young, male and female) we were told that WE started it, like all Stoke fans are just one person! BM Mick...Did any of our lot have issues getting around to Paddington for trains home, with all the palaver in Euston/Kings Cross going on?
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 2, 2020 15:38:54 GMT
That’s absolutely right mate. When we protested about how they were treating us (our little group of old, young, male and female) we were told that WE started it, like all Stoke fans are just one person! BM Mick...Did any of our lot have issues getting around to Paddington for trains home, with all the palaver in Euston/Kings Cross going on? Not that I’m aware of mate. I think we were saved by going back to the pub full of Luton’s mob for a drink and a chat about football, super Nathan, dodgy offsides and penalties otherwise we’d have found ourselves cattle trucked off to Stoke! BM
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 15:55:17 GMT
Absolute scum of the earth, completely brainless aresoles! That still doesn't give the police the right to treat innocent footballs like shit! They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 2, 2020 15:57:26 GMT
I genuinely believe some people high up in the Police think it's ok to adopt the school/armed forces mentality where football fans are concerned - "Right then, a couple of them have misbehaved so we're well within our rights to punish them all" That’s absolutely right mate. When we protested about how they were treating us (our little group of old, young, male and female) we were told that WE started it, like all Stoke fans are just one person! BM Yes they said to me "your friends" I said no my friends are here with me so don't tar all football fans with the same brush.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 2, 2020 15:59:26 GMT
That still doesn't give the police the right to treat innocent footballs like shit! They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. I'd done nothing wrong and had two young children in our group and the police were treating us like shit so I shouldn't blame them?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 2, 2020 16:15:16 GMT
That still doesn't give the police the right to treat innocent footballs like shit! They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. That is the mentality of some soldiers in wartime - when a couple of villagers join the resistance they feel it is justice to shoot every man in the village. That's a war crime under the Geneva convention. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of a Geneva convention which applies to football fans - or if there is, the Police don't bother following it.
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Post by werrington on Mar 2, 2020 16:16:36 GMT
That still doesn't give the police the right to treat innocent footballs like shit! They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. So every Muslim should be treated as a terrorist and every black lad at the Notting Hill carnival as a potential knife carrier? This shit just got real
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 2, 2020 16:24:37 GMT
That still doesn't give the police the right to treat innocent footballs like shit! They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. Sometimes I don't want to respond to a post on here, I just want to go and lock myself in my airing cupboard and cry.
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 2, 2020 16:33:46 GMT
They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. Sometimes I don't want to respond to a post on here, I just want to go and lock myself in my airing cupboard and cry. Reckon he’s plod or plod trainer? BM
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 2, 2020 16:40:00 GMT
There's a lot of people in/from this city that simply love to lick the boot.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 17:42:16 GMT
Sometimes I don't want to respond to a post on here, I just want to go and lock myself in my airing cupboard and cry. Reckon he’s plod or plod trainer? BM Nh, I'm just a realist, no thugs no trouble.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 17:43:25 GMT
They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. So every Muslim should be treated as a terrorist and every black lad at the Notting Hill carnival as a potential knife carrier? This shit just got real What a stupid reply?
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 17:46:19 GMT
They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. That is the mentality of some soldiers in wartime - when a couple of villagers join the resistance they feel it is justice to shoot every man in the village. That's a war crime under the Geneva convention. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of a Geneva convention which applies to football fans - or if there is, the Police don't bother following it. Ha, ha, please stop, you're splitting my sides
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 17:48:40 GMT
They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. I'd done nothing wrong and had two young children in our group and the police were treating us like shit so I shouldn't blame them? No of course not, what I'm saying is that the idiots that cause the problem are responsible for those innocents that get scooped upon the situation.
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Post by Davef on Mar 2, 2020 17:48:55 GMT
So every Muslim should be treated as a terrorist and every black lad at the Notting Hill carnival as a potential knife carrier? This shit just got real What a stupid reply? What's stupid about it? You seem happy enough for the majority to be treated poorly because of the actions of the minority.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 18:00:23 GMT
What's stupid about it? You seem happy enough for the majority to be treated poorly because of the actions of the minority. If, IF, the knob heads didn't start causing trouble in the first place nobody would have a problem. I'm one of those innocents who was grabbed by cop running to the bus, i have no axe to grind, he was trying to prevent a problem. Your comparison is ridiculous.
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Post by Davef on Mar 2, 2020 18:11:39 GMT
What's stupid about it? You seem happy enough for the majority to be treated poorly because of the actions of the minority. If, IF, the knob heads didn't start causing trouble in the first place nobody would have a problem. I'm one of those innocents who was grabbed by cop running to the bus, i have no axe to grind, he was trying to prevent a problem. Good for you. Most of us don't consider the Police to be judge, jury and executioner though.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Mar 2, 2020 18:12:39 GMT
Going back to another post on this thread, I would be more concerned with our friends from GMP & the endless possibilities regarding our trip to Wigan.
Long memories never forget
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 18:34:40 GMT
If, IF, the knob heads didn't start causing trouble in the first place nobody would have a problem. I'm one of those innocents who was grabbed by cop running to the bus, i have no axe to grind, he was trying to prevent a problem. Good for you. Most of us don't consider the Police to be judge, jury and executioner though. The problem is that police don't have time to stand there and take statements. Why aren't pointing fingers at the thugs started this
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 2, 2020 18:42:07 GMT
What's stupid about it? You seem happy enough for the majority to be treated poorly because of the actions of the minority. If, IF, the knob heads didn't start causing trouble in the first place nobody would have a problem. I'm one of those innocents who was grabbed by cop running to the bus, i have no axe to grind, he was trying to prevent a problem. Your comparison is ridiculous. You really are missing the point that most people on this thread are trying to make. Of course if idiots didn't cause trouble there would be no problem. If there were no criminals we wouldn't even need a police force. But there are criminals and hooligans so we do need a police force - we can all agree on that.But that doesn't mean that the Police should not do their jobs in such a way that they don't make matters worse. And the police do on many occasions fail to do their job properly and do make things worse. If you have been a Stoke fan for a while you should remember an incident before a Stoke game at Old Trafford (about 10 years ago?) when the police overstepped the mark and detained some Stokies in a pub and then bussed them back to SOT. Several fans were paid compensation (in some cases of over £1000) for what happened that day. Surprise surprise, immediately after that incident there was a minority of fans like yourself, who said the Police were blameless. The Courts decided otherwise.
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Post by madnellie on Mar 2, 2020 19:00:45 GMT
If, IF, the knob heads didn't start causing trouble in the first place nobody would have a problem. I'm one of those innocents who was grabbed by cop running to the bus, i have no axe to grind, he was trying to prevent a problem. Your comparison is ridiculous. You really are missing the point that most people on this thread are trying to make. Of course if idiots didn't cause trouble there would be no problem. If there were no criminals we wouldn't even need a police force. But there are criminals and hooligans so we do need a police force - we can all agree on that.But that doesn't mean that the Police should not do their jobs in such a way that they don't make matters worse. And the police do on many occasions fail to do their job properly and do make things worse. If you have been a Stoke fan for a while you should remember an incident before a Stoke game at Old Trafford (about 10 years ago?) when the police overstepped the mark and detained some Stokies in a pub and then bussed them back to SOT. Several fans were paid compensation (in some cases of over £1000) for what happened that day. Surprise surprise, immediately after that incident there was a minority of fans like yourself, who said the Police were blameless. The Courts decided otherwise. It's the only situation I can think of where the police seem to have carte blanche to treat everyone as a criminal the moment someone participating in the same general activity does something illegal. And when it comes to football fans, it seems what we're doing doesn't even have to be illegal to get us in trouble. If I'm in the supermarket and someone gets caught shoplifting, no one assumes I'm a shoplifter too just because I'm doing my groceries at the same time. If I'm at a gig and someone kicks off, the police don't lock everyone in the venue for ages afterwards, and then march us all around town for hours until we're miles away with no means of getting home. So why is it ok to tar every football fan with the same brush? The police are there to prevent disorder and protect the average fan from the more 'boisterous' ones if things get out of hand. They're not there to treat people as criminals for having the audacity to attend a sporting event because someone they don't even know acted like a knob.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 19:59:46 GMT
If, IF, the knob heads didn't start causing trouble in the first place nobody would have a problem. I'm one of those innocents who was grabbed by cop running to the bus, i have no axe to grind, he was trying to prevent a problem. Your comparison is ridiculous. You really are missing the point that most people on this thread are trying to make. Of course if idiots didn't cause trouble there would be no problem. If there were no criminals we wouldn't even need a police force. But there are criminals and hooligans so we do need a police force - we can all agree on that.But that doesn't mean that the Police should not do their jobs in such a way that they don't make matters worse. And the police do on many occasions fail to do their job properly and do make things worse. If you have been a Stoke fan for a while you should remember an incident before a Stoke game at Old Trafford (about 10 years ago?) when the police overstepped the mark and detained some Stokies in a pub and then bussed them back to SOT. Several fans were paid compensation (in some cases of over £1000) for what happened that day. Surprise surprise, immediately after that incident there was a minority of fans like yourself, who said the Police were blameless. The Courts decided otherwise. I know all about Manchester and the police were out of order with a predetermined plan. Luton was a case where fighting or even a riot was possible. The police had to act and sadly the innocent get caught up with it. From what I saw kids and other innocents were being pushed roughly by the cops because the cops were trying to break up the thugs. Of course the thugs were pushing just as determinedly again impinging on the innocent. If I'd have seen batons being used on kids and adults I'd have been the first to complain. Make no mistake I'm no lover of cops when they overstep the mark.
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Post by Davef on Mar 2, 2020 20:08:22 GMT
☝🏻 Have you ever read such a load of old cobblers?
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 2, 2020 21:05:19 GMT
☝🏻 Have you ever read such a load of old cobblers? I don't believe I have
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Post by skip on Mar 2, 2020 21:37:40 GMT
You really are missing the point that most people on this thread are trying to make. Of course if idiots didn't cause trouble there would be no problem. If there were no criminals we wouldn't even need a police force. But there are criminals and hooligans so we do need a police force - we can all agree on that.But that doesn't mean that the Police should not do their jobs in such a way that they don't make matters worse. And the police do on many occasions fail to do their job properly and do make things worse. If you have been a Stoke fan for a while you should remember an incident before a Stoke game at Old Trafford (about 10 years ago?) when the police overstepped the mark and detained some Stokies in a pub and then bussed them back to SOT. Several fans were paid compensation (in some cases of over £1000) for what happened that day. Surprise surprise, immediately after that incident there was a minority of fans like yourself, who said the Police were blameless. The Courts decided otherwise. I know all about Manchester and the police were out of order with a predetermined plan. Luton was a case where fighting or even a riot was possible. The police had to act and sadly the innocent get caught up with it. From what I saw kids and other innocents were being pushed roughly by the cops because the cops were trying to break up the thugs. Of course the thugs were pushing just as determinedly again impinging on the innocent. If I'd have seen batons being used on kids and adults I'd have been the first to complain. Make no mistake I'm no lover of cops when they overstep the mark. Fuck complaining, if I ever see that I'm wading in.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 2, 2020 22:00:52 GMT
I know all about Manchester and the police were out of order with a predetermined plan. Luton was a case where fighting or even a riot was possible. The police had to act and sadly the innocent get caught up with it. From what I saw kids and other innocents were being pushed roughly by the cops because the cops were trying to break up the thugs. Of course the thugs were pushing just as determinedly again impinging on the innocent. If I'd have seen batons being used on kids and adults I'd have been the first to complain. Make no mistake I'm no lover of cops when they overstep the mark. Fuck complaining, if I ever see that I'm wading in. Hero
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 22:18:36 GMT
Fuck complaining, if I ever see that I'm wading in. Hero Just had my house burgled. Thankfully the police turned up and arrested everyone in the street. Even me. A1 policing. The burglars won't be back anytime soon.
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Post by hyaduck on Mar 2, 2020 22:37:38 GMT
They get involved because of the idiots, don't blame the police. So every Muslim should be treated as a terrorist and every black lad at the Notting Hill carnival as a potential knife carrier? This shit just got real You just bin watching Ali G init
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