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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 29, 2020 21:58:00 GMT
Tin pot southern twats.
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Post by samba :) on Feb 29, 2020 22:03:23 GMT
Maybe they are and maybe they’re not That doesn’t even rhyme... neither does that, you must be a
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Post by werrington on Feb 29, 2020 22:07:27 GMT
Seriously
If any Stoke fans got arrested today directly after the match get it on here and people can testify on your behalf
It was a fucking disgrace
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Post by werrington on Feb 29, 2020 22:35:30 GMT
And so it continues
Police at Stoke station have apparently waded into returning stoke fans on the concourse
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Post by madnellie on Feb 29, 2020 22:37:31 GMT
And so it continues Police at Stoke station have apparently waded into returning stoke fans on the concourse Jesus hates Christ.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 29, 2020 22:44:11 GMT
Really. thats just a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 22:44:51 GMT
And so it continues Police at Stoke station have apparently waded into returning stoke fans on the concourse My mate has just said that Stoke have given as good as they got at Stoke station.
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 1, 2020 7:23:31 GMT
And so it continues Police at Stoke station have apparently waded into returning stoke fans on the concourse Why on Earth bother. Had they smashed the train up or sumat...
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 1, 2020 8:28:23 GMT
Why the over the top presence at Eustin and back at stoke? Been to the smoke loads of times to watch us and barely seen a copper at Euston, football fans being used as easy meat yet again.
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Post by kronkie on Mar 1, 2020 8:35:04 GMT
Why the over the top presence at Eustin and back at stoke? Been to the smoke loading times to watch us and barely seen a copper at Euston, football fans being used as easy meat yet again. Just stoke fans.
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Post by bristolpotter on Mar 1, 2020 9:01:47 GMT
Saw it kicking off with the stewards at the end , there was a fairly large amount of our ‘lads’ young and old there which would account for the plod presence was more mischief than anything else certainly not like the 80s days at Luton
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 1, 2020 9:32:49 GMT
One for big Malc and The FSF Brigadiers - go get 'em!
Wonder if the club will pass comment on this (subject to an investigation)? Should be plenty of evidence of te fans being treated like 2nd class citizens just for having the audacity to attend a football game.
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 1, 2020 9:32:57 GMT
The police tactics were baffling and created flash points rather than preventing them. It started with them trying to kettle ALL of our fans in Oak Rd behind the away end after the game. People got impatient with that and the barrier was then breached, no doubt by some of our ‘lads’ and then a police chase ensued all the way into town with them trying to block off the main road back to the station to ALL Stoke fans. Women, children, old people all got the same treatment and for what benefit? What major public disturbance did they stop? What innocent bystanders did they protect?
That all said there were a sizeable number within our support who were up for trouble and that’s probably why the police were big in numbers and so jumpy, but their tactics were brainless and treated everyone as a hooligan.
When we eventually made it back to the town centre we found a pub full of Luton fans, some of whom the police might consider in the ‘at risk’ category but we had a great time chatting and drinking with them. Same as is normal THESE days.
The police tactics created plenty of drama and annoyance but achieved absolutely nothing else.
BM
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 1, 2020 9:53:18 GMT
I'm surprised Malcolm Clarke hasn't appeared on this thread. I presume he was at the game - usually when this sort of thing happens the FSA (formerly FSF) is keen to get involved to help the fans get some measure of justice.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 1, 2020 10:08:23 GMT
Can't help but wonder if it has anything to do with 'budgets'
It was around this time of year that the RN was fond if sending a mobile maintenance team from Portsmouth to Plymouth and a similar maintenance team in the other direction.
The theory was if they didn't use their budget for this sort of thing within the financial year they wouldn't get the same level of funding in the next financial year, a ludicrous way to operate but lots of civil service types do/did the same thing.
Maybe the FSF could have a peek at that side of things.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 1, 2020 10:20:40 GMT
The police tactics were baffling and created flash points rather than preventing them. It started with them trying to kettle ALL of our fans in Oak Rd behind the away end after the game. People got impatient with that and the barrier was then breached, no doubt by some of our ‘lads’ and then a police chase ensued all the way into town with them trying to block off the main road back to the station to ALL Stoke fans. Women, children, old people all got the same treatment and for what benefit? What major public disturbance did they stop? What innocent bystanders did they protect? That all said there were a sizeable number within our support who were up for trouble and that’s probably why the police were big in numbers and so jumpy, but their tactics were brainless and treated everyone as a hooligan. When we eventually made it back to the town centre we found a pub full of Luton fans, some of whom the police might consider in the ‘at risk’ category but we had a great time chatting and drinking with them. Same as is normal THESE days. The police tactics created plenty of drama and annoyance but achieved absolutely nothing else. BM I parked the other side of the bridge, explained to the police where I had parked, Shirley Street, and they allowed me through. The same at the barrier at the end of the road.
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Post by hoofmagic on Mar 1, 2020 10:21:59 GMT
police don't like pale skin in luton lol
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Post by Davef on Mar 1, 2020 10:28:18 GMT
The police tactics were baffling and created flash points rather than preventing them. It started with them trying to kettle ALL of our fans in Oak Rd behind the away end after the game. People got impatient with that and the barrier was then breached, no doubt by some of our ‘lads’ and then a police chase ensued all the way into town with them trying to block off the main road back to the station to ALL Stoke fans. Women, children, old people all got the same treatment and for what benefit? What major public disturbance did they stop? What innocent bystanders did they protect? That all said there were a sizeable number within our support who were up for trouble and that’s probably why the police were big in numbers and so jumpy, but their tactics were brainless and treated everyone as a hooligan. When we eventually made it back to the town centre we found a pub full of Luton fans, some of whom the police might consider in the ‘at risk’ category but we had a great time chatting and drinking with them. Same as is normal THESE days. The police tactics created plenty of drama and annoyance but achieved absolutely nothing else. BM I parked the other side of the bridge, explained to the police where I had parked, Shirley Street, and they allowed me through. The same at the barrier at the end of the road. I did exactly the same thing with no success. Probably because I'm twenty years younger than you?!
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Post by bob670 on Mar 1, 2020 10:29:08 GMT
What happened at the bottom of the street, outside the ground was so clearly a huge risk. We left bang on the full-time whistle as we were on a fixed train from Euston therefore we were, for want of a better phrase on the “front t line.” As soon as the few hundred travelling fans left the ground it was inevitable that the crowd would swell and the pressure on those at the front would increase. To be honest, I stood there and waited for it to happen as I couldn’t done anything else. The push started, Police broke lines and I started to walk towards the end of the Street. Police became a bit more excitable with us at the front with my mate going over on the ground and me staring at the teeth of a dog. Police were pushing back but, in all honesty, had lost the plot and their behaviour demonstrated that. All of the young Police on the front line were telling us that it was the God in the sky dictating orders supported by an older Police officer in a blue jacket. The God in the sky was the helicopter…… It was a total over reaction that could have gone very wrong. We got to the Station quickly, ended up in London too late for the train we booked on and Avanti staff refused to give us another ticket saying that we hadn’t left enough time. In summary, it was a load of young Police officers taking orders from a more senior source who should have demonstrated a more common-sense an mature approach to modern Policing.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 1, 2020 10:29:22 GMT
I parked the other side of the bridge, explained to the police where I had parked, Shirley Street, and they allowed me through. The same at the barrier at the end of the road. I did exactly the same thing with no success. Probably because I'm twenty years younger than you?! Done be ageist
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 1, 2020 10:32:56 GMT
I'm surprised Malcolm Clarke hasn't appeared on this thread. I presume he was at the game - usually when this sort of thing happens the FSA (formerly FSF) is keen to get involved to help the fans get some measure of justice. Better late than never John. 😄 I was there. The only thing I saw was a bit of aggro at the dividing line immediately after final whistle but we got straight on to the coach outside so didn’t see the problems in Oak Road, or Luton, St.Pancras, Euston or Stoke stations. However my FSA colleague Amanda has had a number of complaints from Stokies. If you witnessed anything you think was wrong or badly handled by the police please take the time to email Amanda at Amanda.Jacks@thefsa.org.uk Without witness evidence we can’t do anything.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 1, 2020 10:36:24 GMT
One for big Malc and The FSF Brigadiers - go get 'em! Wonder if the club will pass comment on this (subject to an investigation)? Should be plenty of evidence of te fans being treated like 2nd class citizens just for having the audacity to attend a football game. See my post above. Amanda is already on the case but the more statements she has the better
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Post by sheds1862 on Mar 1, 2020 11:15:40 GMT
Are we not getting all a bit prissy about this , I didn't go due to work but I know for a fact a lot of old faces went and trouble was expected. A lot of our 50 plus age bracket lads were there yet for example they wouldn't go to Reading or Hull. Clearly went there expecting/ hoping for a ruck
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Post by lstokie on Mar 1, 2020 11:26:19 GMT
Weird bunch aren't they. Just had a look at their board and 50% of their threads are just about us
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Post by thfc67 on Mar 1, 2020 13:08:47 GMT
Why the over the top presence at Eustin and back at stoke? Been to the smoke loads of times to watch us and barely seen a copper at Euston, football fans being used as easy meat yet again. Could it because Birmingham were playing at QPR, also Preston were at Fulham; with their fans using Euston as well?
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Post by stokefc on Mar 1, 2020 13:31:47 GMT
Why the over the top presence at Eustin and back at stoke? Been to the smoke loads of times to watch us and barely seen a copper at Euston, football fans being used as easy meat yet again. Could it because Birmingham were playing at QPR, also Preston were at Fulham; with their fans using Euston as well? More than likely, why were the plod waiting at Stoke station
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Post by Davef on Mar 1, 2020 13:49:38 GMT
Are we not getting all a bit prissy about this , I didn't go due to work but I know for a fact a lot of old faces went and trouble was expected. A lot of our 50 plus age bracket lads were there yet for example they wouldn't go to Reading or Hull. Clearly went there expecting/ hoping for a ruck That was no excuse for the Police operation. I can't remember the last time anything like that was undertaken by a police force and all it did was to antagonise and frustrate people, the vast majority of whom simply wanted to get back to the station or their cars for a long journey home. A simple presence along the Dunstable Road would've been sufficient to have dealt with any small pockets of trouble which may have occurred. I'll certainly be thinking twice about going to that shit hole again.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 1, 2020 13:52:03 GMT
The way the police treated us from that walk to Euston (after they promised us the train would be going straight to Euston and guaranteed we wouldn't miss our train) was nothing short of disgraceful pushing shouting treating us like hooligans, then at Euston they seemed to not let us get on the trains, I had to force them to let us through otherwise we'd have missed our train.
On that walk you could clearly see that those officers were like a coiled spring goading us into trying something so they could wade in.
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Post by werrington on Mar 1, 2020 15:30:10 GMT
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Post by jeycov on Mar 1, 2020 15:40:32 GMT
Why the over the top presence at Eustin and back at stoke? Been to the smoke loads of times to watch us and barely seen a copper at Euston, football fans being used as easy meat yet again. Could it because Birmingham were playing at QPR, also Preston were at Fulham; with their fans using Euston as well? Not unusual for several sets of fans to be travelling home via Euston early Saturday evening
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