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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 9:22:45 GMT
You have been stating the press hounded her to death, her management are pretty much saying the decision by the cps to take her to trial is the reason she killed herself. Well which was it, the press or CPS... Both obviously
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Post by alsagerstokie on Feb 16, 2020 9:31:36 GMT
If people don't like someone on there friends list on Facebook anymore just block or unfriend them. Don't get into vile slanging matches like some people do. Christ imagine unfriending someone like they did in the early years
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 16, 2020 9:37:12 GMT
You have been stating the press hounded her to death, her management are pretty much saying the decision by the cps to take her to trial is the reason she killed herself. Well which was it, the press or CPS... It is very sad when anyone feels the only answer is to take there life And the affects on there loved ones are beyond comprehension But only one person is truly responsible and that is flack They can deflect by blaming the press they can blame cps for actually doing there job Some may lay the blame at her agents who have happily took there per cents whilst probably exploiting a obviously troubled human being Yes the press do a lot wrong but they also act as a check on individuals and organisations A free press is essential to the running of all true democracies
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Post by richie22 on Feb 16, 2020 9:38:28 GMT
The sun seem to be trying to lead a country in the out pouring of greif over Caroline, back to the old race to see who can grieve the most between our gutter press and social media.. very odd when we consider the treatment they’ve dished out to her recently with there constant character assassination. the treatment dished out to Jeremy Kyle with all the mock outrage causing his show to be pulled should now be levelled at the hacks and influencers that have grown big off assassinating this woman. Sleep easy Caroline RIP
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 9:56:58 GMT
You have been stating the press hounded her to death, her management are pretty much saying the decision by the cps to take her to trial is the reason she killed herself. Well which was it, the press or CPS... Her management are saying a show trial was to blame. A show trial is a trial in the media eye. I’m not sure what anyone is arguing about here. Rip.
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Post by maxplonk on Feb 16, 2020 10:00:07 GMT
The sun seem to be trying to lead a country in the out pouring of greif over Caroline, back to the old race to see who can grieve the most between our gutter press and social media.. very odd when we consider the treatment they’ve dished out to her recently with there constant character assassination. the treatment dished out to Jeremy Kyle with all the mock outrage causing his show to be pulled should now be levelled at the hacks and influencers that have grown big off assassinating this woman. Sleep easy Caroline RIP
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 10:02:53 GMT
The sun seem to be trying to lead a country in the out pouring of greif over Caroline, back to the old race to see who can grieve the most between our gutter press and social media.. very odd when we consider the treatment they’ve dished out to her recently with there constant character assassination. the treatment dished out to Jeremy Kyle with all the mock outrage causing his show to be pulled should now be levelled at the hacks and influencers that have grown big off assassinating this woman. Sleep easy Caroline RIP David Walliams and the sun need to be on trial.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 16, 2020 10:07:50 GMT
RIP Caroline Flack. I had heard her name but didn't really know who she was and would not have recognised her. When someone reaches the point of suicide I don't believe that it is the last event or happening in their life that may necessarily be the root cause....it might be a simple thing or a single event that otherwise may be manageable but , as part of deeper issues/ challenges/ depression just confirms " that's it , I've had enough, I can't go on with this"....that pushes them over the top.... it's often the culmination of many other things.
I wonder if the EE board is good for our mental health?
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 16, 2020 10:15:26 GMT
David Walliams and the sun need to be on trial. I’m not getting the David Walliams link!?!
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 10:19:03 GMT
David Walliams and the sun need to be on trial. I’m not getting the David Walliams link!?! Tbf, I didn’t realise he took the piss out of her a couple of weeks ago. People on twitter are making it sound like he did it yesterday. He’s done nothing wrong. The sun are a joke though.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 16, 2020 10:32:25 GMT
I’m not getting the David Walliams link!?! Tbf, I didn’t realise he took the piss out of her a couple of weeks ago. People on twitter are making it sound like he did it yesterday. He’s done nothing wrong. The sun are a joke though. Ok, just YouTubed it & is he comparing her to a hedgehog. I’m guessing it’s something to do “with more pricks than a hedgehog!?!”
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 10:34:48 GMT
Tbf, I didn’t realise he took the piss out of her a couple of weeks ago. People on twitter are making it sound like he did it yesterday. He’s done nothing wrong. The sun are a joke though. Ok, just YouTubed it & is he comparing her to a hedgehog. I’m guessing it’s something to do “with more pricks than a hedgehog!?!” Possibly but it was ages ago. I’m sure he feels terrible now.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 16, 2020 10:44:33 GMT
It was a joke about that masked singer show Apparently the hedgehog came on and he said good to see Caroline flack is back on tv
It was a joke, that’s all. Not funny not really malicious just a joke
I don’t find walliams particular entertaining but now the twitterati are all over him now.
Discussing this poor woman’s apparent suicide is always going to bring up the media, her role in society and behaviour. Trying to blame someone. No one deserves it but from the tv the media and the “people” them selves they all cultivate this life
If you live your life through the tv, press and social media you become fair game in a way because you cannot switch these things off when it suits you. You love the good stuff it brings and you have to accept the bad. I also believe if you live your life voluntary in the public eye you have a responsibility to live as responsible as you can. There are plenty of famous people who do their work but then retreat into their lives shunning the extra publicity.
On a separate issue the feminasti would be in over drive if it was her partner awaiting trial for domestic abuse
Hypocrisy all round
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Post by mattador78 on Feb 16, 2020 10:47:04 GMT
I get the social media harassment link towards her suicide. However, to see people throwing blame at the cps is wrong, if their wasn’t the potential of a guilty verdict against her for her actions it wouldn’t be going to court. Allegedly she assaulted her partner by smashing a vase or lamp or some other object on his head if that’s the case cps right to prosecute just because you’ve said sorry or are famous doesn’t stop a day in court. Surely it would have been easier plead guilty have her still partner speak in her defence in court attend counselling and move on?
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 16, 2020 10:56:39 GMT
It was a joke about that masked singer show Apparently the hedgehog came on and he said good to see Caroline flack is back on tv It was a joke, that’s all. Not funny not really malicious just a joke I don’t find walliams particular entertaining but now the twitterati are all over him now. Discussing this poor woman’s apparent suicide is always going to bring up the media, her role in society and behaviour. Trying to blame someone. No one deserves it but from the tv the media and the “people” them selves they all cultivate this life If you live your life through the tv, press and social media you become fair game in a way because you cannot switch these things off when it suits you. You love the good stuff it brings and you have to accept the bad. I also believe if you live your life voluntary in the public eye you have a responsibility to live as responsible as you can. There are plenty of famous people who do their work but then retreat into their lives shunning the extra publicity. On a separate issue the feminasti would be in over drive if it was her partner awaiting trial for domestic abuse Hypocrisy all round Well it won't be the last time Walliams isn't funny
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 16, 2020 11:04:35 GMT
It was a joke about that masked singer show Apparently the hedgehog came on and he said good to see Caroline flack is back on tv It was a joke, that’s all. Not funny not really malicious just a joke I don’t find walliams particular entertaining but now the twitterati are all over him now. Discussing this poor woman’s apparent suicide is always going to bring up the media, her role in society and behaviour. Trying to blame someone. No one deserves it but from the tv the media and the “people” them selves they all cultivate this life If you live your life through the tv, press and social media you become fair game in a way because you cannot switch these things off when it suits you. You love the good stuff it brings and you have to accept the bad. I also believe if you live your life voluntary in the public eye you have a responsibility to live as responsible as you can. There are plenty of famous people who do their work but then retreat into their lives shunning the extra publicity. On a separate issue the feminasti would be in over drive if it was her partner awaiting trial for domestic abuse Hypocrisy all round Well it won't be the last time Walliams isn't funny Has he actually ever been funny .
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 11:06:18 GMT
It was a joke about that masked singer show Apparently the hedgehog came on and he said good to see Caroline flack is back on tv It was a joke, that’s all. Not funny not really malicious just a joke I don’t find walliams particular entertaining but now the twitterati are all over him now. Discussing this poor woman’s apparent suicide is always going to bring up the media, her role in society and behaviour. Trying to blame someone. No one deserves it but from the tv the media and the “people” them selves they all cultivate this life If you live your life through the tv, press and social media you become fair game in a way because you cannot switch these things off when it suits you. You love the good stuff it brings and you have to accept the bad. I also believe if you live your life voluntary in the public eye you have a responsibility to live as responsible as you can. There are plenty of famous people who do their work but then retreat into their lives shunning the extra publicity. On a separate issue the feminasti would be in over drive if it was her partner awaiting trial for domestic abuse Hypocrisy all round I agree, Walliams isn’t to blame. He’ll end up topping himself if this carries on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 11:14:50 GMT
Well which was it, the press or CPS... It is very sad when anyone feels the only answer is to take there life And the affects on there loved ones are beyond comprehension But only one person is truly responsible and that is flack They can deflect by blaming the press they can blame cps for actually doing there job Some may lay the blame at her agents who have happily took there per cents whilst probably exploiting a obviously troubled human being Yes the press do a lot wrong but they also act as a check on individuals and organisations A free press is essential to the running of all true democracies Bless, you think we have a free press......
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 16, 2020 11:28:34 GMT
It is very sad when anyone feels the only answer is to take there life And the affects on there loved ones are beyond comprehension But only one person is truly responsible and that is flack They can deflect by blaming the press they can blame cps for actually doing there job Some may lay the blame at her agents who have happily took there per cents whilst probably exploiting a obviously troubled human being Yes the press do a lot wrong but they also act as a check on individuals and organisations A free press is essential to the running of all true democracies Bless, you think we have a free press...... Just because you might disagree with the ownership and political slant of the majority of the popular press does not mean that it isn't free I wonder if Prince Andrew thinks its easy to silence the press I personally dislike the daily bullshit printed in the mirror And wouldn't wipe my arse with the morning star But I would say there part of a free press
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 16, 2020 12:55:34 GMT
The whole thing is just a sorry indication of so many things wrong in society and key for me is having strong family and friends.
I feel sorry for her and her family and I’m sure lots of questions will be asked about things.
Family and solid friends are what we should aim to have to help us through life, but this doesn’t seem to be high on the priority list for some.
Friends and family are dear to my heart and I could not have got through what I have without them and this is why I prioritise it for my kids and friends......it’s a shitty old world out there at times and you have to take responsibility for your own actions and how you live your life. If your reality world is social media and shallow people around you, don’t be surprised when it comes crashing down and you are left alone to deal with it. It’s just sad that the foundations of some lives are built on sand.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 12:56:09 GMT
Well which was it, the press or CPS... It is very sad when anyone feels the only answer is to take there life And the affects on there loved ones are beyond comprehension But only one person is truly responsible and that is flack They can deflect by blaming the press they can blame cps for actually doing there job Some may lay the blame at her agents who have happily took there per cents whilst probably exploiting a obviously troubled human being Yes the press do a lot wrong but they also act as a check on individuals and organisations A free press is essential to the running of all true democracies Is it essential for the Sun to post unproven smears with pictures of blood-soaked beds all over their front pages before the trial has taken place? There is already no free press, they are subject to (pathetically weak) laws on reasonable truth. They shouldn't be 'free' either. People have died because of the 'free' press.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 16, 2020 13:22:26 GMT
Tragic news. She was constantly pecked by the media. Yeah, but in this case it was for having a relationship with an under 18, and repeatedly assaulting her partners. It's not like those things shouldn't be scrutinised is it. Did she have a thing with Harry Styles...
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 16, 2020 13:24:09 GMT
It is very sad when anyone feels the only answer is to take there life And the affects on there loved ones are beyond comprehension But only one person is truly responsible and that is flack They can deflect by blaming the press they can blame cps for actually doing there job Some may lay the blame at her agents who have happily took there per cents whilst probably exploiting a obviously troubled human being Yes the press do a lot wrong but they also act as a check on individuals and organisations A free press is essential to the running of all true democracies Is it essential for the Sun to post unproven smears with pictures of blood-soaked beds all over their front pages before the trial has taken place? There is already no free press, they are subject to (pathetically weak) laws on reasonable truth. They shouldn't be 'free' either. People have died because of the 'free' press. I reckon you would have approved of the old Pravda style of press.
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 16, 2020 13:34:10 GMT
Yeah, but in this case it was for having a relationship with an under 18, and repeatedly assaulting her partners. It's not like those things shouldn't be scrutinised is it. Did she have a thing with Harry Styles... She did mate. And I'm not saying she deserved to die or anything else the knicker wetter's on here think I am. I'm just saying she was bound to get scrutiny when she's done the things she's done. Like that Geordie one who crashed his car pissed. And I've had to serve a ban for my troubles. The first time I agree with FYD, and I get the boot Whoever the fucking grassing cunts are on here, you'll have to do harder. Feel free to PM me for a chat if you have any issues.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 13:34:59 GMT
Is it essential for the Sun to post unproven smears with pictures of blood-soaked beds all over their front pages before the trial has taken place? There is already no free press, they are subject to (pathetically weak) laws on reasonable truth. They shouldn't be 'free' either. People have died because of the 'free' press. I reckon you would have approved of the old Pravda style of press. Disagreeing with freedom of press is not the same as wanting a completely state-controlled press. Media outlets should not be allowed to print unsubstantiated claims or personal slurs.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 16, 2020 13:41:43 GMT
Did she have a thing with Harry Styles... She did mate. And I'm not saying she deserved to die or anything else the knicker wetter's on here think I am. I'm just saying she was bound to get scrutiny when she's done the things she's done. Like that Geordie one who crashed his car pissed. And I've had to serve a ban for my troubles. The first time I agree with FYD, and I get the boot Whoever the fucking grassing cunts are on here, you'll have to do harder. Feel free to PM me for a chat if you have any issues. She didn’t kill herself because of the press or judiciary(she probs wouldn’t have got custody or even found guilty) She must have been ill or drunk or high or all three. Just a shame that she has no way back.
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Post by felonious on Feb 16, 2020 13:43:31 GMT
But you have to ask yourself why is it that relationships, family, friends, etc who have nothing to do with someone's choice of career in public life somehow become fair targets for the press with this pathetic justification when the reality is it's just to sell usually scum newspapers. We saw from the hacking of phones and particularly Milly Dowler just how far in the gutter our press is. There's a debate going on in France currently regarding a politician and the right to a private life it should be happening here. I'm referring generally to press intrusion and not to this specific case. Yes the press can be scum of the earth at times. Sometimes these people use the press just as much for fame fortune and publicity In the case of the CPS if they had not done anything the actual story today could have been of a young man killed by an abusive partner It is tragic when any person gets so low that they end up in this state The whole celebrity world is a shit storm from the press to the influencers and reality tv and yet it gets thrown at our kids 24/7 and suddenly it’s what some of them aspire to be It's a little bit warped logic though are you suggesting that people don't become politicians, footballers, tennis players, singers, actors, etc because their family, friends, etc will become fair game. This is the country we live in I did point out in my post that I wasn't specifically referring to this case
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 16, 2020 13:49:02 GMT
I reckon you would have approved of the old Pravda style of press. Disagreeing with freedom of press is not the same as wanting a completely state-controlled press. Media outlets should not be allowed to print unsubstantiated claims or personal slurs. And who is going to regulate what is an unsubstianted claim or slur not sure you have thought this through, in this case I have never seen it disputed that she hit her boyfriend.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 16, 2020 13:51:22 GMT
Well which was it, the press or CPS... Her management are saying a show trial was to blame. A show trial is a trial in the media eye. I’m not sure what anyone is arguing about here. Rip. If you going to go around calling people morons its perhaps a good idea to understand what a show trial is and it is not a trial in the media eye.....
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 16, 2020 13:57:09 GMT
I reckon you would have approved of the old Pravda style of press. Disagreeing with freedom of press is not the same as wanting a completely state-controlled press. Media outlets should not be allowed to print unsubstantiated claims or personal slurs. Lil, I think that there is another massive issue that " we " need to come to terms with. The technological revolution has changed what we mean by ' media' . I don't think that we have even begun to come to terms with " Who's saying what and why. Is it true?" Facebook, Instagram and Twitter are private global concerns and I don't think that we have easily got the will, motivation or ability to regulate them. In many ways I'm pleased to see the gradual devaluing of MSM, Murdock and the BBC.....I think that we are only at the beginning of their gradual decline ( obviously they are putting up a fight)....the challenge for future generations is " What replaces them" Trump speaking directly through his tweets may seem a joke to some or a novelty...but the next President in fact could choose to use social media in a more organised, structured way. Boris avoiding interrogation by Andrew Neil and not choosing to go on Piers Morgan's show was interpreted as cowardice by many....I think that it was Cummings saying to MSM " We don't have to play to your tune, you don't set the agenda"....and as unacceptable as it seems to those who want ' scrutiny' ( AND WE DO NEED SCRUTINY)....he is correct....MSM has got too big for its' boots with its' own agenda. We now have a largely unregulated minefield out there, a free for all. Perhaps change hs got to come from within the companies themselves through commercial pressure and choices of consumers. In my opinion.
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