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Post by liathroid on Feb 15, 2020 20:26:57 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 15, 2020 20:28:26 GMT
Yeah I mean thats exactly what I said FFS...... She killed herself it must be the media not the fear of losing her job, the court case do you think anyone working in showbiz actually reads their bad press...... The media were all over her because of the court case and losing her job. Have a look on twitter. She was hounded. It’s not about choosing to ignore a news paper article. Moron. Have a look on twitter as a source of definitive evidence I've heard it all now. She was not hounded, the press wrote some stories about her troubles just as they would have done when she won awards, as I have said the job loss and fear her career was over would have far more impact that articles she would never read. Name calling very grown up.
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Post by zerps on Feb 15, 2020 20:35:52 GMT
The media were all over her because of the court case and losing her job. Have a look on twitter. She was hounded. It’s not about choosing to ignore a news paper article. Moron. Have a look on twitter as a source of definitive evidence I've heard it all now. She was not hounded, the press wrote some stories about her troubles just as they would have done when she won awards, as I have said the job loss and fear her career was over would have far more impact that articles she would never read. Name calling very grown up. I’ll stand by my use of the word moron as you make up what actually happened in your own head 😙
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 15, 2020 20:39:07 GMT
Tragic.
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Post by marwood on Feb 15, 2020 20:44:11 GMT
It was open season on Caroline from the very moment she dared to have a younger partner
Even Walliams felt he was on safe enough ground to have a pop at her during a TV award show, like he’s some paragon of virtue
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 20:50:26 GMT
The media were all over her because of the court case and losing her job. Have a look on twitter. She was hounded. It’s not about choosing to ignore a news paper article. Moron. Have a look on twitter as a source of definitive evidence I've heard it all now. She was not hounded, the press wrote some stories about her troubles just as they would have done when she won awards, as I have said the job loss and fear her career was over would have far more impact that articles she would never read. Name calling very grown up. The Sun went to town on her, the editor of said shit rag has just paid a touching tribute to her on Twitter, saying what a truly special human being she was. Absolute scummy rag that should go the same way as it’s sister paper....
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 15, 2020 20:52:28 GMT
It was open season on Caroline from the very moment she dared to have a younger partner Even Walliams felt he was on safe enough ground to have a pop at her during a TV award show, like he’s some paragon of virtue Walliams is a talentless wanker.
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Post by zerps on Feb 15, 2020 21:06:35 GMT
Have a look on twitter as a source of definitive evidence I've heard it all now. She was not hounded, the press wrote some stories about her troubles just as they would have done when she won awards, as I have said the job loss and fear her career was over would have far more impact that articles she would never read. Name calling very grown up. The Sun went to town on her, the editor of said shit rag has just paid a touching tribute to her on Twitter, saying what a truly special human being she was. Absolute scummy rag that should go the same way as it’s sister paper.... Flack's management criticise 'show trial' that was 'without merit' Francis Ridley of Money Talent Management said in a statement: "We are devastated at the loss of our client and friend Caroline Flack. "An immensely talented young woman who was at the top of her game professionally and loved by television viewers across the country. "In recent months Caroline had been under huge pressure because of an ongoing case and potential trial which has been well reported. "The Crown Prosecution Service pursued this when they knew not only how very vulnerable Caroline was but also that the alleged victim did not support the prosecution and had disputed the CPS version of events. "The CPS should look at themselves today and how they pursued a show trial that was not only without merit but not in the public interest. And ultimately resulted in significant distress to Caroline. "Our thoughts are with Caroline's family at this time."
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Post by mattyd on Feb 15, 2020 22:11:48 GMT
Must admit i'd never actually heard of her. Having never seen a nano second of Love Island. Either way RIP
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Post by woodstein on Feb 15, 2020 22:22:50 GMT
Terrible news and the media have to take a lot of blame. But are folk just as bad for buying the papers to read the stories about it? Though I’m not so sure the levels of sympathy on social media etc would be quite so high if it was a bloke who was being prosecuted for assaulting his mrs who’d committed suicide. So folks are bad for reading about such things? Whether they liked the woman or not, and they should stop buying papers because they put something in you don't think they should? There are plenty of articles we don't like but it shouldn't have to resort to that!
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 15, 2020 22:30:48 GMT
The Sun went to town on her, the editor of said shit rag has just paid a touching tribute to her on Twitter, saying what a truly special human being she was. Absolute scummy rag that should go the same way as it’s sister paper.... Flack's management criticise 'show trial' that was 'without merit' Francis Ridley of Money Talent Management said in a statement: "We are devastated at the loss of our client and friend Caroline Flack. "An immensely talented young woman who was at the top of her game professionally and loved by television viewers across the country. "In recent months Caroline had been under huge pressure because of an ongoing case and potential trial which has been well reported. "The Crown Prosecution Service pursued this when they knew not only how very vulnerable Caroline was but also that the alleged victim did not support the prosecution and had disputed the CPS version of events. "The CPS should look at themselves today and how they pursued a show trial that was not only without merit but not in the public interest. And ultimately resulted in significant distress to Caroline. "Our thoughts are with Caroline's family at this time." It's the media who hounded her to death ohhhhh
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 15, 2020 22:37:22 GMT
Have a look on twitter as a source of definitive evidence I've heard it all now. She was not hounded, the press wrote some stories about her troubles just as they would have done when she won awards, as I have said the job loss and fear her career was over would have far more impact that articles she would never read. Name calling very grown up. The Sun went to town on her, the editor of said shit rag has just paid a touching tribute to her on Twitter, saying what a truly special human being she was. Absolute scummy rag that should go the same way as it’s sister paper.... You read the sun really or are you taking your evidence selectively, I've seen that statement retweeted where he claims to be almost friends with then I see the flack, sack and whack headline being retweeted as proof of hounding yet that story starts by saying tv stars are angry itv havent backed her the same way as they did Ant afer his drink driving ban.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 22:51:47 GMT
Extremely sad state of affairs. It's absolutely tragic that she has found herself in a place where she thought the only way out was to take her own life.
Theres a lot of things about modern life that I despise.
Social media can be used in such a positive way. It's also rife with people just looking for a target. Somebody they can tear to shreds without a second thought. Much like the newspapers do, for that matter.
None of us are perfect. We all make mistakes and do things we regret. Most of us are lucky enough to live normal lives. We can lick our wounds, feel sorry for ourselves for a while, and then slowly return to normality.
When you're in the spotlight, you get hounded and battered from pillar to post. It must be awful getting put through the wringer every single day. Most of what is written or posted is probably complete bollocks, but it doesn't matter, once it's out there, it becomes the daily gossip and everyone assumes it's the truth.
Anybody wanting to be famous these days (no matter how much money it brings) is absolutely mental in my eyes.
We live in a world where seemingly everybody wants to be famous. Not even for a skill or a talent. Reality TV or social media, everybody wants a piece of the action. It really is a sad reflection on our generation.
Life isnt all about number of likes or followers or popularity.
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 15, 2020 23:07:08 GMT
Surely this is the end of love island now
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Post by alsagerstokie on Feb 15, 2020 23:13:12 GMT
I have no idea who she is but RIP all the same.
There is so much hatred on the internet just look at this forum on a regular basis.
Look at this very thread people arguing and name calling yes you know who you are.
It's this that led to this poor woman ending it all.
No doubt the ones I've called out will have a go at me now.
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Post by Gods on Feb 15, 2020 23:15:50 GMT
Must admit i'd never actually heard of her. Having never seen a nano second of Love Island. Either way RIP I have seen many snippets of Love Island but I still would not have recognised her is she stood up in my soup. I didn't even realise Love Island had a presenter. It just looked like some 'hench' guys and hot pussy hanging around semi-naked in a beautiful house with a swimming pool. Anyway RIP, even if I haven't got a scooby who you were!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 23:35:18 GMT
Must admit i'd never actually heard of her. Having never seen a nano second of Love Island. Either way RIP Same with me Was thinking the woman from Men Behaving Badly The sooner they dump these trashy shows the better
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Post by salopstick on Feb 15, 2020 23:36:28 GMT
It was open season on Caroline from the very moment she dared to have a younger partner Even Walliams felt he was on safe enough ground to have a pop at her during a TV award show, like he’s some paragon of virtue Bollocks 10 years ago she was shagging Harry Styles This stems from the press coverage of her attacking her current partner A terrible situation but one she cultivated
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Post by millennialfalcon on Feb 15, 2020 23:39:23 GMT
So sad she was only middle age, RIP
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 16, 2020 0:24:56 GMT
Rest in peace, Caroline. You left us far too young.
Sincere condolences.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Feb 16, 2020 1:46:28 GMT
The black dog has visited most of us at some point. You either deal with it head on or it devours you.
Very sad.
RIP
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Feb 16, 2020 2:55:52 GMT
You can’t excuse her actions recently.. however no one deserves to be at a place in life where the only option is to end it all. Such a shame RIP
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Feb 16, 2020 3:31:43 GMT
Terrible news and the media have to take a lot of blame. But are folk just as bad for buying the papers to read the stories about it? Though I’m not so sure the levels of sympathy on social media etc would be quite so high if it was a bloke who was being prosecuted for assaulting his mrs who’d committed suicide. Tbf i saw a LOT of bile and hatred and very little sympathy on social media for her. That's social media for you though...take an amazing invention (the internet) and turn it into a place to just spew vitriol and hatred towards people you don't know. Is it the fault of social media or simply holding a mirror up to how despicable we, as a species, can be? Different discussion i guess Great post MMLC. Watched an interview of Paxman's with Bowie recently,must be 20 or so years old,in which the thin white Duke expressed his belief that the Internet,( still in its infancy at the time?) was inspiring and terrifying in equal measure,for this very reason. Certainly platforms such as Twitter and the likes give a voice to people who perhaps we'd be better off not hearing from,but then you're into all sorts of arguments about censorship,free-speech and intellectual elitism etc. Stewart Lee (not to everyone's taste on here admittedly,) in 'March of the lemmings,' makes some great points about the narcissism and need of modern society to achieve personal validation through social media. As regards CF I think it's tragic that she thought that suicide was all that was left for her,and can't begin to imagine the angst and desperation she must have been experiencing but also think that in the wider context she is someone who's part of a celebrity culture that is happy to court the media (conventional,tabloids,social etc,) if it helps them get to where they want to be in life,but are less forthcoming when the column inches are likely to be less effusive. If you make your Faustian Pact as it were,don't be surprised when Old Nick turns up to claim his side of the bargain. That aside,RIP to a life ended much too soon.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 16, 2020 5:23:31 GMT
What a shit show this thread has become, some of the people on this site really do need to take a second and breathe before posting.
Anyways, RIP, this is truly tragic.
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Post by felonious on Feb 16, 2020 7:34:17 GMT
Tbf i saw a LOT of bile and hatred and very little sympathy on social media for her. That's social media for you though...take an amazing invention (the internet) and turn it into a place to just spew vitriol and hatred towards people you don't know. Is it the fault of social media or simply holding a mirror up to how despicable we, as a species, can be? Different discussion i guess Great post MMLC. Watched an interview of Paxman's with Bowie recently,must be 20 or so years old,in which the thin white Duke expressed his belief that the Internet,( still in its infancy at the time?) was inspiring and terrifying in equal measure,for this very reason. Certainly platforms such as Twitter and the likes give a voice to people who perhaps we'd be better off not hearing from,but then you're into all sorts of arguments about censorship,free-speech and intellectual elitism etc. Stewart Lee (not to everyone's taste on here admittedly,) in 'March of the lemmings,' makes some great points about the narcissism and need of modern society to achieve personal validation through social media. As regards CF I think it's tragic that she thought that suicide was all that was left for her,and can't begin to imagine the angst and desperation she must have been experiencing but also think that in the wider context she is someone who's part of a celebrity culture that is happy to court the media (conventional,tabloids,social etc,) if it helps them get to where they want to be in life,but are less forthcoming when the column inches are likely to be less effusive.If you make your Faustian Pact as it were,don't be surprised when Old Nick turns up to claim his side of the bargain. That aside,RIP to a life ended much too soon. But you have to ask yourself why is it that relationships, family, friends, etc who have nothing to do with someone's choice of career in public life somehow become fair targets for the press with this pathetic justification when the reality is it's just to sell usually scum newspapers. We saw from the hacking of phones and particularly Milly Dowler just how far in the gutter our press is. There's a debate going on in France currently regarding a politician and the right to a private life it should be happening here. I'm referring generally to press intrusion and not to this specific case.
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 7:35:43 GMT
Flack's management criticise 'show trial' that was 'without merit' Francis Ridley of Money Talent Management said in a statement: "We are devastated at the loss of our client and friend Caroline Flack. "An immensely talented young woman who was at the top of her game professionally and loved by television viewers across the country. "In recent months Caroline had been under huge pressure because of an ongoing case and potential trial which has been well reported. "The Crown Prosecution Service pursued this when they knew not only how very vulnerable Caroline was but also that the alleged victim did not support the prosecution and had disputed the CPS version of events. "The CPS should look at themselves today and how they pursued a show trial that was not only without merit but not in the public interest. And ultimately resulted in significant distress to Caroline. "Our thoughts are with Caroline's family at this time." It's the media who hounded her to death ohhhhh I’ve got no idea what that means..
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Post by salopstick on Feb 16, 2020 8:45:05 GMT
Great post MMLC. Watched an interview of Paxman's with Bowie recently,must be 20 or so years old,in which the thin white Duke expressed his belief that the Internet,( still in its infancy at the time?) was inspiring and terrifying in equal measure,for this very reason. Certainly platforms such as Twitter and the likes give a voice to people who perhaps we'd be better off not hearing from,but then you're into all sorts of arguments about censorship,free-speech and intellectual elitism etc. Stewart Lee (not to everyone's taste on here admittedly,) in 'March of the lemmings,' makes some great points about the narcissism and need of modern society to achieve personal validation through social media. As regards CF I think it's tragic that she thought that suicide was all that was left for her,and can't begin to imagine the angst and desperation she must have been experiencing but also think that in the wider context she is someone who's part of a celebrity culture that is happy to court the media (conventional,tabloids,social etc,) if it helps them get to where they want to be in life,but are less forthcoming when the column inches are likely to be less effusive.If you make your Faustian Pact as it were,don't be surprised when Old Nick turns up to claim his side of the bargain. That aside,RIP to a life ended much too soon. But you have to ask yourself why is it that relationships, family, friends, etc who have nothing to do with someone's choice of career in public life somehow become fair targets for the press with this pathetic justification when the reality is it's just to sell usually scum newspapers. We saw from the hacking of phones and particularly Milly Dowler just how far in the gutter our press is. There's a debate going on in France currently regarding a politician and the right to a private life it should be happening here. I'm referring generally to press intrusion and not to this specific case. Yes the press can be scum of the earth at times. Sometimes these people use the press just as much for fame fortune and publicity In the case of the CPS if they had not done anything the actual story today could have been of a young man killed by an abusive partner It is tragic when any person gets so low that they end up in this state The whole celebrity world is a shit storm from the press to the influencers and reality tv and yet it gets thrown at our kids 24/7 and suddenly it’s what some of them aspire to be
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 16, 2020 8:50:11 GMT
It's the media who hounded her to death ohhhhh I’ve got no idea what that means.. You have been stating the press hounded her to death, her management are pretty much saying the decision by the cps to take her to trial is the reason she killed herself.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 16, 2020 8:55:11 GMT
But you have to ask yourself why is it that relationships, family, friends, etc who have nothing to do with someone's choice of career in public life somehow become fair targets for the press with this pathetic justification when the reality is it's just to sell usually scum newspapers. We saw from the hacking of phones and particularly Milly Dowler just how far in the gutter our press is. There's a debate going on in France currently regarding a politician and the right to a private life it should be happening here. I'm referring generally to press intrusion and not to this specific case. Yes the press can be scum of the earth at times. Sometimes these people use the press just as much for fame fortune and publicity In the case of the CPS if they had not done anything the actual story today could have been of a young man killed by an abusive partner It is tragic when any person gets so low that they end up in this state The whole celebrity world is a shit storm from the press to the influencers and reality tv and yet it gets thrown at our kids 24/7 and suddenly it’s what some of them aspire to be Correct on the CPS and they also to an extent they have to ignore the wishes of an abused partner because someone being abused can be easily manipulated by the abuser to drop the charges with promises of it never happening again etc etc
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 16, 2020 8:59:24 GMT
I’ve got no idea what that means.. You have been stating the press hounded her to death, her management are pretty much saying the decision by the cps to take her to trial is the reason she killed herself. Well which was it, the press or CPS...
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