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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2019 14:56:52 GMT
He’s a mile better than what we’ve got, is the point. I don’t see what your point is with ‘nobody wants to spend money on him’? Historically some of our best players over the past 10-15 years weren’t exactly coveted, that didn’t mean they weren’t worth their place in our side? There’s a clamour to rewrite history now and portray Ndiaye as a tool downing waster because the powers that be have decreed he’s off and we can’t have any criticism of the manager until X number of games, apparently. Results have been shit with him in and out of the team. Your last sentence is a bit rich to be honest. Meaning what, exactly? Do elaborate? Results have been shit with or without him but he has played well. Happy with Cousins in the side?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2019 14:57:44 GMT
He’s not that good. Played the second half of the season which saw us tumble from 16 th to relegation and had one consistent 90 minutes- Swansea away last game of the season. Other games he’d have a good 45 minutes before disappearing usually in the second half. First season in the Championship and couldn’t get away quick enough. He has done okay this season but hasn’t grabbed one game by the scruff of the neck and dominated. He has scored none has no assists and played in one game where we have kept a clean sheet- no body really wants him because he is just a bit better than average. He’s been playing defensive midfield. Goals and assists aren’t his job.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 26, 2019 14:59:01 GMT
Results have been shit with him in and out of the team. Your last sentence is a bit rich to be honest. Meaning what, exactly? Do elaborate? Results have been shit with or without him but he has played well. Happy with Cousins in the side? Where X = 0
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2019 15:01:29 GMT
Meaning what, exactly? Do elaborate? Results have been shit with or without him but he has played well. Happy with Cousins in the side? Where X = 0 What are you talking about?
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 26, 2019 15:07:16 GMT
What are you talking about? You're clever enough to work it out.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2019 15:09:08 GMT
What are you talking about? You're clever enough to work it out. I’m really not. You’re not usually so shy about saying what you mean?
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Post by thehoof on Dec 26, 2019 15:22:54 GMT
He’s not that good. Played the second half of the season which saw us tumble from 16 th to relegation and had one consistent 90 minutes- Swansea away last game of the season. Other games he’d have a good 45 minutes before disappearing usually in the second half. First season in the Championship and couldn’t get away quick enough. He has done okay this season but hasn’t grabbed one game by the scruff of the neck and dominated. He has scored none has no assists and played in one game where we have kept a clean sheet- no body really wants him because he is just a bit better than average. He’s been playing defensive midfield. Goals and assists aren’t his job. Clean sheets Toxic? Not too many of those ( one actually ) were there while he was the midfield protector?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2019 15:29:02 GMT
He’s been playing defensive midfield. Goals and assists aren’t his job. Clean sheets Toxic? Not too many of those ( one actually ) were there while he was the midfield protector? No, but his performances overall have been good regardless. Who would you prefer to see playing that role who’s done a better job there, based on performances this season?
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 26, 2019 15:37:51 GMT
You're clever enough to work it out. I’m really not. You’re not usually so shy about saying what you mean? we can’t have any criticism of the manager until X number of games, apparently.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2019 15:46:19 GMT
I’m really not. You’re not usually so shy about saying what you mean? we can’t have any criticism of the manager until X number of games, apparently. Yeah, I was guilty of that with Jones (as were you). It’s why I’m not with O’Neill, we can’t afford any more honeymoon periods where the manager is beyond reproach. We’re in a dogfight. Equally O’Neill has got a free pass from you for things you’d have lost your shit over had Pulis or Rowett done them.
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Post by thehoof on Dec 26, 2019 16:15:52 GMT
Clean sheets Toxic? Not too many of those ( one actually ) were there while he was the midfield protector? No, but his performances overall have been good regardless. Who would you prefer to see playing that role who’s done a better job there, based on performances this season? The performances haven’t been brilliant with Badou playing- we’ve been second off bottom all the time he’s played . Like it or not, he’s been a non- factor.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2019 16:23:59 GMT
No, but his performances overall have been good regardless. Who would you prefer to see playing that role who’s done a better job there, based on performances this season? The performances haven’t been brilliant with Badou playing- we’ve been second off bottom all the time he’s played . Like it or not, he’s been a non- factor. His performances have been good though. If you’re happy with this midfield though pal you crack on.
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Post by thehoof on Dec 26, 2019 16:48:52 GMT
Nobody said they were happy with the midfield, just pointing out that with Badou neither our league position or results changed noticeably. If they had , we wouldn’t have spent all season in the bottom 3. If you think Badou had turned us into some team on an upward path, then fair enough- clearly the results point out that this wasn’t the case, but hey ho.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Dec 26, 2019 22:46:27 GMT
Really.....yes. I think that’s our squad (as of today). Overloaded, unbalanced and not enough quality in certain areas. Whether or not (if we wanted to) send loan players back I don’t know. I would imagine if we signed them on a 12 month loan we’d be responsible for their wages anyway. Frightening really!! Frederici Butland Davies Ward Smith Edwards Tymon Batth Carter Vickers - loan Collins Lindsay Martins Indi Shawcross Duffy - loan N’Daiye Etebo Woods Clucas Allen McClean Ince Cousins Powell Vokes Gregory Hogan - loan Afobe (out injured) Campbell Diouf No one on that list is actually any good and none of them would be missed. You’re being silly
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 31, 2019 16:20:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 16:24:12 GMT
Looks like he's had a good Xmas!!!
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 31, 2019 16:24:41 GMT
Not really a surprised, I wonder if it’s a loan or not. I do think Badou is a disruptive personality (he’s announced it before the club) but him and Etebo were on another planet footballing wise when they played together.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 31, 2019 16:32:15 GMT
Who on earth advises these player that announcing their own signing is a good thing? Shows zero respect to us at all but that's not really any surprise.
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Post by withingtonstokie on Dec 31, 2019 16:38:14 GMT
Who on earth advises these player that announcing their own signing is a good thing? Shows zero respect to us at all but that's not really any surprise. But if we waited for SCFC to announce it he would have already made his debut!!!
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 31, 2019 16:38:21 GMT
Was that taken in one of those posh bogs where the bloke tries to charge you for washing your hands? Just looks like a gold plated bog roll holder in the background and the handle of a gold plated bog brush in the foreground.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 31, 2019 16:39:38 GMT
Who on earth advises these player that announcing their own signing is a good thing? Shows zero respect to us at all but that's not really any surprise. But if we waited for SCFC to announce it he would have already made his debut!!! That could be true but I expect both clubs to make announcement tomorrow really.
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 31, 2019 16:55:16 GMT
Who on earth advises these player that announcing their own signing is a good thing? Shows zero respect to us at all but that's not really any surprise. This is the same guy urging fans to get behind the team from the pitch a few weeks back. No respect is right, just another reason we are where we are. No better than Saido really.
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Post by badger1863 on Dec 31, 2019 17:23:06 GMT
He'll be back, there is no way Trabzonspor will be able to afford the transfer fee.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2019 17:37:16 GMT
Massive shame.
Solves naff all financially.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 31, 2019 17:39:18 GMT
Massive shame. Solves naff all financially. Get ready for a similar nonentity of a deal for Etebo! And it's not as if Etebo is a big earner. Looks like any flexibility is going to come down to shifting Allen.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 31, 2019 17:44:26 GMT
Massive shame. Solves naff all financially. Get ready for a similar nonentity of a deal for Etebo! And it's not as if Etebo is a big earner. Looks like any flexibility is going to come down to shifting Allen. Au revoir Allen & Bonjour Etebo starting XI.....someone get on the phone to 'Despicable Tony' quick, and tell him not to send him away for shit all!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2019 17:46:46 GMT
Massive shame. Solves naff all financially. Get ready for a similar nonentity of a deal for Etebo! And it's not as if Etebo is a big earner. Looks like any flexibility is going to come down to shifting Allen. Will we let him go? Surely we can’t let all 3 go? I think we might keep that useless shit despite him being the saviour to all our financial woes.
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Post by werrington on Dec 31, 2019 17:49:32 GMT
Get ready for a similar nonentity of a deal for Etebo! And it's not as if Etebo is a big earner. Looks like any flexibility is going to come down to shifting Allen. Will we let him go? Surely we can’t let all 3 go? I think we might keep that useless shit despite him being the saviour to all our financial woes. Finances now dictate Bayern If somebody wants one of our BIG earners they’ll go It’d be financial suicide to keep them
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 31, 2019 17:52:28 GMT
Get ready for a similar nonentity of a deal for Etebo! And it's not as if Etebo is a big earner. Looks like any flexibility is going to come down to shifting Allen. Will we let him go? Surely we can’t let all 3 go? I think we might keep that useless shit despite him being the saviour to all our financial woes. If Moyes offers anything near £12m, hard to see how we could possibly say no? Without knowing the ins and outs about Etebo's attitude etc, this desire to get rid of him makes little sense as he isn't one that's on big money. It only makes sense if we fully anticipate at least get our money back, but I'm not hopeful. Far more likely to be another shitty Turkish loan
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2019 17:55:43 GMT
Will we let him go? Surely we can’t let all 3 go? I think we might keep that useless shit despite him being the saviour to all our financial woes. Finances now dictate Bayern If somebody wants one of our BIG earners they’ll go It’d be financial suicide to keep them The last set of accounts say otherwise though. They were really encouraging in fact. What it did show is that we need cash injections from sales to cover the loss of more revenue next year. Loaning Badou saves 200-300k - fuck all if we get relegated because he’s not playing. Etebo would be similar. Different if we can get 6-10m for him but that looks a million years away.
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