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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 3, 2019 16:27:16 GMT
Really sad thing is on saturday there will still be a section of the fans singing nathan Jones barmy army and that's what we're up against......denial Thats supporters being supporters, its fair enough voicing displeasure before/after the game but during it everyone needs to be getting behind the team. Thats normally what happens mate but we had supporters clapping them off the other night😮😄
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 16:27:27 GMT
I just get the impression the management don’t want to pay off another manager so they’re blindingly hoping he turns it around. We've neither the manager, nor players, to get us 48 more points this season. If if happens, it will defy all logic. But you may be right. They're just taking a huge gamble.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 16:35:16 GMT
The only reason he's not been sacked is probably because they don't want to pay him off. By the way, when the fans were clapping them off t'other night, were they going oink oink as well! He and the team are f'ing clueless. Obvious to anyone with a nose on their face! Clueless, I tell you! Disappointed that Hughton has said no (if true), by the way! The supporters who do turn up these days deserve far, far better than the shite being served up!
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Post by Gods on Oct 3, 2019 16:36:13 GMT
Well, he's on the ropes and he's come out punching!
I don't know what to say other than 'Go on Nath !!'
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Post by jebbstuart on Oct 3, 2019 16:48:25 GMT
well absolute silence from the boardroom, feel we have run out of any idea of how to resolve the issues at the club and money has all gone on compensation and paying people no longer playing at this club. at present feel totally frustrated with it all. not enjoying watching utter crap so will go watch non league at least they seem to give it all and give a crap. Coates idea if he sticks with Jones we will win a game, then that is true but how many games you going to give him 50, 60,100????
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 3, 2019 17:00:05 GMT
But he's right in some respects. He's as baffled as most of us how professional players can miss a target of 8 feet by 8 yards so many times. I cannot recall many times when the opposition goalie has had to bring off really good saves against us. The real reason why we are where we are now is that the players we've got couldn't score in a brothel. And even the shots we've had on target are so poor that even I could have saved most of them.
OS.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 3, 2019 17:20:38 GMT
He wouldn't have said what he said on Tuesday night if he knew at that point that he still had the Swansea game and he certainly wouldn't have said his goodbyes to people. When did he say his goodbyes? Before he "100%" left last week... I hope you paid your money to the DLT Paul.
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Post by adi on Oct 3, 2019 17:24:35 GMT
When did he say his goodbyes? Spinks has reported it this morning. Well that confirms he’s staying then if that buffoon said it.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 3, 2019 17:30:31 GMT
I do love how many ITKs on here have outed themselves as absolute fucking chancers based on what seemed an easy and inevitable correct guess ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) The first time I logged in after Tuesday's match I thought there must have been some sort of open day at the ground. Never known so many to be in on so many top level business decisions that were being taken. Always fun watching them trying to save face.
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Post by adi on Oct 3, 2019 17:33:44 GMT
If we’d gotten rid of Hughes mid October Then paid the (now a relative pittance) value of a top quality manager, I’ve no doubt we would still be a competitive Prem team. Fucked it right up has Peter, to an unbelievable level.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 17:35:18 GMT
But he's right in some respects. He's as baffled as most of us how professional players can miss a target of 8 feet by 8 yards so many times. I cannot recall many times when the opposition goalie has had to bring off really good saves against us. The real reason why we are where we are now is that the players we've got couldn't score in a brothel. And even the shots we've had on target are so poor that even I could have saved most of them. OS. Butland couldn't
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 3, 2019 17:42:34 GMT
The Sunderland Til I Die makers have missed a trick here, they could have blown people away with season 2 If people thought the Sunderland CEO was bad... Yikes!
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 3, 2019 17:45:43 GMT
Nice one. I picked up on it early doors. He asked a question last season that rattled him and I'm not sure they've been on 'manager - journo' speaking terms since! Yeah - don't think there's any love lost! He's an absolute bellend.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 3, 2019 17:47:21 GMT
Is there any issue with duty of care here? The guy is mentally unstable and suffering from a delusional disorder. His seriously is. His employer's should not be putting him out in front of the media. It's negligent. Jesus wept.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 3, 2019 17:48:01 GMT
I'm raising this as a serious issue. I don't think the guy is in a good place at all and his employers should be considering the impact of this pressure on him, both short term and long term. I don't think he's fit enough to handle the pressure. He's never been in a situation like this in his life and he doesn't seem well equipped to deal with it. I can only describe his comments as delusional. Anyway I need to get back to work, before this madness drives me crazy!!! That's a very fair point STD. Mental health of players gets mention nowadays but there's little said about mental health of managers. He must surely be feeling very lonely and very down, if not clinically depressed. He's said a couple of times that he wonders if the players actually want to play for him, which is a worry.
As much as most fans want him out, and he probably wants to walk away himself, the board keeping him in too long might not be doing him any favours even if they think they're being supportive. Good to see the Oatcake MD out today
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 17:49:11 GMT
What a cowardice bunch of people we have running OUR club. Its so hard to imagine that they actually run such a dynamic, successful and ruthless business! They don't seem to be able to apply any of the same strategies to the football club. Because they're two very different things. Lots of chairmen have made the catastrophic decision to run a club like a business - of course football is a business, but it's a very different kind of business - they all failed.
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 3, 2019 17:53:05 GMT
Most of what he says is true, luck just isn't with us at the moment. We are doing more than enough to win games. He is probably a couple of signings from making us a really strong clinical team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 17:54:05 GMT
Most of what he says is true, luck just isn't with us at the moment. We are doing more than enough to win games. He is probably a couple of signings from making us a really strong clinical team. Because having 11 wasn't enough. Wake up FFS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 17:58:22 GMT
A few observations from that 1) Why does he keep saying we’re controlling games🤔7 out of the 10 he says?Am I missing something. 2) How much me me me can you get into a press conference 🙄 3) He didn’t like that question at the end at all did he 1) With a modification he is right. There have times when we are running games, we just lose them in the final 10 minutes or the five before the break. We have no talent for recovery. 2) I don't know. All he seems to be saying is we, we, we, always in the plural. Of course he's only referring to himself, but that is a deflection mechanism, which all manager have/use
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Post by ilfracoombestokie3 on Oct 3, 2019 18:00:05 GMT
To all you people who keep insisting on backing Jones you should be ashamed of yourself. All this bullshit about he is a nice guy and deserves another chance,he is way way out of his depth and I think what happened at Luton was down to other people not him.it looks to me as if the board are struggling financially after paying Hughes,Lambert and rowett off,the coffers are obviously empty.
So they should be ashamed of themselves, not because of any facts but because of shit you've decided upon in your own brain?
Not a birght spark are you?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Oct 3, 2019 18:03:21 GMT
Will this be the point where we all look back and say that was when we were officially relegated? No, that was game 3
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Post by anto on Oct 3, 2019 18:06:25 GMT
![](https://s30886.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/INTRO-2.jpg) Just got home catching jaw dropped then saw this, not stopped laughing since
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 3, 2019 18:07:50 GMT
Most of what he says is true, luck just isn't with us at the moment. We are doing more than enough to win games. He is probably a couple of signings from making us a really strong clinical team. Because having 11 wasn't enough. Wake up FFS. I stand back and look at the bigger picture and the performance as a whole. Forest 4 shots on target and score 3, Huddersfield 1 shot on target and score, our 1st 3 or 4 games there were 12 shots on target and we conceded 8. We have not got away with anything, everyone has been ridiculously clinical against us. We have dominated nearly every match, our left back is a massive issue which Jones pointed out at the start of the season, hence his comment about Ward being all we could get as nobody else was available. Unfortunately his best days are behind him and we have been left short. Jones is doing a lot right but we have a weakness which isn't going away until at least the next window. The club are probably as much to blame as Jones for the left back situation, if we sort that out we are a good team maybe a top team.
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Post by lordb on Oct 3, 2019 18:09:49 GMT
Because having 11 wasn't enough. Wake up FFS. I stand back and look at the bigger picture and the performance as a whole. Forest 4 shots on target and score 3, Huddersfield 1 shot on target and score, our 1st 3 or 4 games there were 12 shots on target and we conceded 8. We have not got away with anything, everyone has been ridiculously clinical against us. We have dominated nearly every match, our left back is a massive issue which Jones pointed out at the start of the season, hence his comment about Ward being all we could get as nobody else was available. Unfortunately his best days are behind him and we have been left short. Jones is doing a lot right but we have a weakness which isn't going away until at least the next window. The club are probably as much to blame as Jones for the left back situation, if we sort that out we are a good team maybe a top team. We can't defend our penalty area, sides only need a couple of forays and they will score. It's October now, it's not bad luck.
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 3, 2019 18:14:44 GMT
If we’d gotten rid of Hughes mid October Then paid the (now a relative pittance) value of a top quality manager, I’ve no doubt we would still be a competitive Prem team. Fucked it right up has Peter, to an unbelievable level. Our performances were shocking the whole season, we looked like a team on the verge of a double relegation. I can't remember a glimmer of hope at all. The attitudes and everything was wrong. I honestly thought last season we would be in a relegation battle purely because of the way we went down.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 18:15:51 GMT
Because having 11 wasn't enough. Wake up FFS. I stand back and look at the bigger picture and the performance as a whole. Forest 4 shots on target and score 3, Huddersfield 1 shot on target and score, our 1st 3 or 4 games there were 12 shots on target and we conceded 8. We have not got away with anything, everyone has been ridiculously clinical against us. We have dominated nearly every match, our left back is a massive issue which Jones pointed out at the start of the season, hence his comment about Ward being all we could get as nobody else was available. Unfortunately his best days are behind him and we have been left short. Jones is doing a lot right but we have a weakness which isn't going away until at least the next window. The club are probably as much to blame as Jones for the left back situation, if we sort that out we are a good team maybe a top team. The only picture you need to look at is one of his win record. It's his fault we don't have a left back. He sold Erik Pieters for wasn't it less at £1m. He is a terrible manager who has made a complete hash of everything he has done here. There is no excuse for his transfers over the summer. You can't even use the excuse of funds when Sawyers and Ayaji went to West Brom for about £5m and he pissed £4m up the wall on Tommy fucking Smith. He's the one that promised that he wouldn't bring anyone in that wasn't better than what we had and NONE of them are better. They are all worse. It's entirely his fault. All that comes out of his mouth are lies and excuses but everyone has been sucked in to thinking he's a nice guy. Load of absolute mugs.
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Post by tosh on Oct 3, 2019 18:27:26 GMT
Because having 11 wasn't enough. Wake up FFS. I stand back and look at the bigger picture and the performance as a whole. Forest 4 shots on target and score 3, Huddersfield 1 shot on target and score, our 1st 3 or 4 games there were 12 shots on target and we conceded 8. We have not got away with anything, everyone has been ridiculously clinical against us. We have dominated nearly every match, our left back is a massive issue which Jones pointed out at the start of the season, hence his comment about Ward being all we could get as nobody else was available. Unfortunately his best days are behind him and we have been left short. Jones is doing a lot right but we have a weakness which isn't going away until at least the next window. The club are probably as much to blame as Jones for the left back situation, if we sort that out we are a good team maybe a top team. What utter rubbish! He has made eleven signings and to avoid ridicule and embarrassment, he hardly dare play any of them. He took over an underperforming squad, four points off the play-off places, and turned it into an absolute shambles, which under him can’t win a game and is staring relegation in the face. We’ve just been beaten by a team that hadn’t won for thirty matches and that has just changed its manager. We need to do the same. The sooner he is chased off the premises the better.
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 3, 2019 18:39:57 GMT
I stand back and look at the bigger picture and the performance as a whole. Forest 4 shots on target and score 3, Huddersfield 1 shot on target and score, our 1st 3 or 4 games there were 12 shots on target and we conceded 8. We have not got away with anything, everyone has been ridiculously clinical against us. We have dominated nearly every match, our left back is a massive issue which Jones pointed out at the start of the season, hence his comment about Ward being all we could get as nobody else was available. Unfortunately his best days are behind him and we have been left short. Jones is doing a lot right but we have a weakness which isn't going away until at least the next window. The club are probably as much to blame as Jones for the left back situation, if we sort that out we are a good team maybe a top team. The only picture you need to look at is one of his win record. It's his fault we don't have a left back. He sold Erik Pieters for wasn't it less at £1m. He is a terrible manager who has made a complete hash of everything he has done here. There is no excuse for his transfers over the summer. You can't even use the excuse of funds when Sawyers and Ayaji went to West Brom for about £5m and he pissed £4m up the wall on Tommy fucking Smith. He's the one that promised that he wouldn't bring anyone in that wasn't better than what we had and NONE of them are better. They are all worse. It's entirely his fault. All that comes out of his mouth are lies and excuses but everyone has been sucked in to thinking he's a nice guy. Load of absolute mugs. We don't really know the Pieters situation, he was slated to fuck during relegation season so probably wanted out. I thought Smith was doing ok but the Edwards in crowd were on his case since his name was on the team sheet and it seemed to affect him. Then again if your competing against an home grown talent the fans will make it difficult for you to settle. Same has happened with Collins , Verlinden and Campbell. How it affects the other players, who knows.
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Post by philm87 on Oct 3, 2019 18:44:38 GMT
I stand back and look at the bigger picture and the performance as a whole. Forest 4 shots on target and score 3, Huddersfield 1 shot on target and score, our 1st 3 or 4 games there were 12 shots on target and we conceded 8. We have not got away with anything, everyone has been ridiculously clinical against us. We have dominated nearly every match, our left back is a massive issue which Jones pointed out at the start of the season, hence his comment about Ward being all we could get as nobody else was available. Unfortunately his best days are behind him and we have been left short. Jones is doing a lot right but we have a weakness which isn't going away until at least the next window. The club are probably as much to blame as Jones for the left back situation, if we sort that out we are a good team maybe a top team. The only picture you need to look at is one of his win record. It's his fault we don't have a left back. He sold Erik Pieters for wasn't it less at £1m. He is a terrible manager who has made a complete hash of everything he has done here. There is no excuse for his transfers over the summer. You can't even use the excuse of funds when Sawyers and Ayaji went to West Brom for about £5m and he pissed £4m up the wall on Tommy fucking Smith. He's the one that promised that he wouldn't bring anyone in that wasn't better than what we had and NONE of them are better. They are all worse. It's entirely his fault. All that comes out of his mouth are lies and excuses but everyone has been sucked in to thinking he's a nice guy. Load of absolute mugs. Can you please explain to the rest of us how our recruitment process works? As far as I can tell it is really quite opaque and so none of us on here know exactly who to blame or what is responsible for a poor dealings in multiple transfer windows under three successive managers (excluding Lambert). You are saying it is all 100% Jones' fault so you must have some insight into the process that the rest of us are unaware of?
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Post by philm87 on Oct 3, 2019 18:50:49 GMT
I have a really far fetched theory to explain this.
After the Huddersfield defeat it was decided to replace Jones. They did not want to sack him until a new man was ready so they are sounding out possible replacements. In the meantime Jones will be in charge for the Swansea game and then we have the international break. Last time they sacked Hughes without having a replacement ready and so suffered the embarrassment of being turned down by three different managers before being stuck with Lambert. They are trying to avoid repeating that. It looks like they have made enquiries about Hughton first and will presumably move on to others now.
Of course that is just idle speculation and not particularly sensible. Far more likely that John Coates is just a massive cunt who wants to rub in YOUR face and make YOU angry by persevering for as long as possible with a manager he fully knows will drag this club to the abyss. It is all clearly a massive conspiracy!!!
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