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Vokes
Jul 17, 2019 19:56:59 GMT
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Post by caine on Jul 17, 2019 19:56:59 GMT
I know it’s only pre season but he’s scored what 5 goals already. I was only saying to my mate the other day got a feeling the lad will do well this season. Showed glimpses off talent towards back end of last season. Hoping a good pre season will give him some confidence and I reckon he will bang a few in next season... here is hoping
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2019 19:59:21 GMT
20 goals and 15 goals in his last 2 Championship seasons (at a goal every 194 minutes)
Come on, Vokesy lad...
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 17, 2019 20:06:42 GMT
Looking at the size of him last season, it wouldn't have surprised me if was hardly training and wheeled out on a weekend. He's obviously got fit and over his injuries now and looks the player we thought we'd bought.
I have no worries at all about Vokes next season, he'll score goals for sure.
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Vokes
Jul 17, 2019 20:16:59 GMT
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Post by camstoke10 on Jul 17, 2019 20:16:59 GMT
I also think Campbell will be a massive player for us next year as his pace will unlock defences top 6 next season I think
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Vokes
Jul 17, 2019 20:21:29 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2019 20:21:29 GMT
I also think Campbell will be a massive player for us next year as his pace will unlock defences top 6 next season I think If Jones is genuinely looking for further "cutting edge", as his interview with the Sentinel strongly suggested, you'd think Campbell would have to be the vulnerable one of the 4 - unless we want to, and think there's a chance, we can unload Afobe.
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Vokes
Jul 17, 2019 20:22:18 GMT
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Post by camstoke10 on Jul 17, 2019 20:22:18 GMT
I also think Campbell will be a massive player for us next year as his pace will unlock defences top 6 next season I think If Jones is genuinely looking for further "cutting edge", as his interview with the Sentinel strongly suggested, you'd think Campbell would have to be the vulnerable one of the 4 - unless we want to, and think there's a chance, we can unload Afobe. I would keep Campbell around the first team, afobe id swap with gayle although I do think afobe will be a lot better than last
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Vokes
Jul 17, 2019 20:24:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 20:24:17 GMT
If Jones is genuinely looking for further "cutting edge", as his interview with the Sentinel strongly suggested, you'd think Campbell would have to be the vulnerable one of the 4 - unless we want to, and think there's a chance, we can unload Afobe. I would keep Campbell around the first team, afobe id swap with gayle although I do think afobe will be a lot better than last You think Newcastle want Afobe...?
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Vokes
Jul 17, 2019 20:41:35 GMT
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Post by caine on Jul 17, 2019 20:41:35 GMT
I would keep Campbell around the first team, afobe id swap with gayle although I do think afobe will be a lot better than last You think Newcastle want Afobe...? Maybe Ndiaye would be worth swapping for Gayle but now Bruce is in charge he might like Gayle as he saw lot of him last season
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Vokes
Jul 17, 2019 21:10:36 GMT
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Post by camstoke10 on Jul 17, 2019 21:10:36 GMT
I would keep Campbell around the first team, afobe id swap with gayle although I do think afobe will be a lot better than last You think Newcastle want Afobe...? no I mean like I’d sell afobe and buy gayle although I do think afobe will come good
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Post by magwitch on Jul 18, 2019 20:18:11 GMT
Vydra is younger, cheaper and better than Gayle
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Post by magwitch on Jul 18, 2019 20:25:19 GMT
Maybe Ndiaye would be worth swapping for Gayle but now Bruce is in charge he might like Gayle as he saw lot of him last season Forget Gayle, go for Vydra from Burnley.
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Vokes
Jul 18, 2019 20:49:21 GMT
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Post by camstoke10 on Jul 18, 2019 20:49:21 GMT
Vydra is younger, cheaper and better than Gayle vydra is not better than gayle
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Vokes
Jul 18, 2019 20:53:12 GMT
Post by jonparkinsgut on Jul 18, 2019 20:53:12 GMT
Vydra is younger, cheaper and better than Gayle vydra is not better than gayle O yes.
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 19, 2019 6:08:55 GMT
I have a feeling that both Vokes and Afobe are both going to come good this coming season. Both firing and forming a partnership could make for an exciting campaign.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jul 19, 2019 7:49:00 GMT
20+ for Vokes this season.
Will be seen as a steal at 9 Mil
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Post by Caddick988 on Jul 19, 2019 7:54:09 GMT
150/1 for Stoke to win the league and Vokes top scorer on SkyBet. Think I'll take a punt on that!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jul 19, 2019 8:13:57 GMT
Should get 15 goals minimum.
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 8:34:09 GMT
Post by kelw on Jul 19, 2019 8:34:09 GMT
Vydra is younger, cheaper and better than Gayle Younger and cheaper, yes. No idea how you come to the conclusion that he's better
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jul 19, 2019 8:55:37 GMT
Vydra is younger, cheaper and better than Gayle Younger and cheaper, yes. No idea how you come to the conclusion that he's better He can cover Powell's position for a start, hes a more rounded & versatile player than gayle and finished top championship goal scorer before Burnley signed him. Hes quick, creative, tricky & clinical confront of goal. Derby fans love him. At some point the chances are powell will be out injured, then we are relying on ince & verlinden at number 10? Promotion? No chance. If we signed vydra he could play alongside vokes if Afobe doesn't do it or drop straight in Powell's position when hes injured or out of form. A better option for us than gayle in every way every day of the week for me
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 10:45:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 10:45:28 GMT
150/1 for Stoke to win the league and Vokes top scorer on SkyBet. Think I'll take a punt on that! Printing money.
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Post by neilb987 on Jul 19, 2019 11:00:42 GMT
Younger and cheaper, yes. No idea how you come to the conclusion that he's better He can cover Powell's position for a start, hes a more rounded & versatile player than gayle and finished top championship goal scorer before Burnley signed him. Hes quick, creative, tricky & clinical confront of goal. Derby fans love him. At some point the chances are powell will be out injured, then we are relying on ince & verlinden at number 10? Promotion? No chance. If we signed vydra he could play alongside vokes if Afobe doesn't do it or drop straight in Powell's position when hes injured or out of form. A better option for us than gayle in every way every day of the week for me Thought Vydra played mostly as a No.10 at Derby? Rowett had the opportunity to bring him to Stoke but for some odd reason must have thought that Stoke's existing strikeforce was full of goals .... Not seen his record as an out-and-out striker.
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 11:01:56 GMT
Post by nott1 on Jul 19, 2019 11:01:56 GMT
I also think Campbell will be a massive player for us next year as his pace will unlock defences top 6 next season I think Will he get a chance though, the manager is already criticising him despite scoring, which some of his team mates can't manage at all. If he can only manage an hour but scores a couple of goals when picked not many will beat that anyway.
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 11:03:10 GMT
Post by nott1 on Jul 19, 2019 11:03:10 GMT
150/1 for Stoke to win the league and Vokes top scorer on SkyBet. Think I'll take a punt on that! Printing money. That's just what the bookie will be thinking!
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 11:12:54 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 19, 2019 11:12:54 GMT
I also think Campbell will be a massive player for us next year as his pace will unlock defences top 6 next season I think Will he get a chance though, the manager is already criticising him despite scoring, which some of his team mates can't manage at all. If he can only manage an hour but scores a couple of goals when picked not many will beat that anyway. He hasn't criticised him, he's merely (and correctly) stated he needs to be more durable. Spoken to certain people re Jones and they all say the same thingy: Jones is incredibly positive and the players have responded massively. Time for supporters to climb out of default Waldorf and Stadtler grumble mode and get behind him.
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 11:15:07 GMT
Post by nott1 on Jul 19, 2019 11:15:07 GMT
Will he get a chance though, the manager is already criticising him despite scoring, which some of his team mates can't manage at all. If he can only manage an hour but scores a couple of goals when picked not many will beat that anyway. He hasn't criticised him, he's merely (and correctly) stated he needs to be more durable. Spoken to certain people re Jones and they all say the same thingy: Jones is incredibly positive and the players have responded massively. Time for supporters to climb out of default Waldorf and Stadtler grumble mode and get behind him. Telling him he needs to be more durable is hardly a complement!
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 11:16:48 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 19, 2019 11:16:48 GMT
He hasn't criticised him, he's merely (and correctly) stated he needs to be more durable. Spoken to certain people re Jones and they all say the same thingy: Jones is incredibly positive and the players have responded massively. Time for supporters to climb out of default Waldorf and Stadtler grumble mode and get behind him. Telling him he needs to be more durable is hardly a complement! No it's genuine advice which the player needs to heed.
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Post by mickey2693 on Jul 19, 2019 11:17:40 GMT
He hasn't criticised him, he's merely (and correctly) stated he needs to be more durable. Spoken to certain people re Jones and they all say the same thingy: Jones is incredibly positive and the players have responded massively. Time for supporters to climb out of default Waldorf and Stadtler grumble mode and get behind him. Telling him he needs to be more durable is hardly a complement! If Campbell has anything about him he'll it as constructive criticism and improve himself.
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 11:19:48 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 19, 2019 11:19:48 GMT
He hasn't criticised him, he's merely (and correctly) stated he needs to be more durable. Spoken to certain people re Jones and they all say the same thingy: Jones is incredibly positive and the players have responded massively. Time for supporters to climb out of default Waldorf and Stadtler grumble mode and get behind him. Telling him he needs to be more durable is hardly a complement! Is he wrong?
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 11:20:19 GMT
Post by nott1 on Jul 19, 2019 11:20:19 GMT
Telling him he needs to be more durable is hardly a complement! If Campbell has anything about him he'll it as constructive criticism and improve himself. Fine, I did say it was criticism!
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Vokes
Jul 19, 2019 11:22:13 GMT
Post by tony1234 on Jul 19, 2019 11:22:13 GMT
Ideally, would offload Afobe, loan someone different and have Campbell as the 4th striker (knowing Powell could also play a second striker role if needed)
Campbell would get time then - initially as an impact sub or cup games - but if he could find consistency (and "durability"), would be a real asset as the season went on. Pace is key.
So, any takers for Afobe - other than the customary cut price loan to Turkey? There really doesn't seem many ways out. Cardiff have just sold Zahore for 8m - perhaps they'd fancy Afobe to replace him? If Swansea sell McBurnie for 15m.... Brentford get 20m for Maupay (thing is, being good at this sort of thing, they'd both find the next gem for 2-3m in the French second division!).
Best route is perhaps the Odemwingie-Jones recipe for findings someone where it isn't working out at another club where it offers a fresh start to both players - e.g. swap for Assomolonga at Boro?
Problem is we've trashed him so much, noone would want him after reading this board to see what the fans thought! If you were a Champs club like Blackburn, you might just about be able to afford to pay 6m for him... but you'd probably take a punt on Lyle Taylor or Elliot Lee for that - and, besides, we probably can't afford to take that.
Gridlock with Afobe. So sadly its Campbell that will probably depart, especially after the durability comment.
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