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Post by franklin66 on Jun 26, 2019 13:26:26 GMT
He's a good solid pro from what I've seen of him if you're good enough you're old enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 13:26:39 GMT
Maybe he's on trial? Or just training with us for fitness? He played 44 games on loan at Brighton when Jones was there as first team coach.
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Post by gingerninja on Jun 26, 2019 13:30:17 GMT
Would he come as a back up option, seeing we haven't got a number 1 as yet?..
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 26, 2019 13:42:07 GMT
Would he come as a back up option, seeing we haven't got a number 1 as yet?.. We have Josh Tymon
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 26, 2019 13:46:52 GMT
According to Lancashire media he's here on trial, hopefully that is just what it is and we move on to someone who fits the mould that Nathan stated.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 26, 2019 13:55:41 GMT
Seems to be a very handy player to have. On Wiki says he can play LB, CM and upfront. Good solid squad player. Could be useful cover for DM.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 13:56:45 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-stephen-ward-burnley-3022422Nathan Jones hopes to tie up his sixth signing of the summer today and bring in Stephen Ward as a free agent. “He’s a wonderful player, a great character, very experienced. He’s been promoted – won the Championship twice. He’s an Irish international, I worked with him, he’s technically very, very good so he ticks every box. It’s just the aging process is the only drawback. “We feel he can do a wonderful job and we hope we can tie everything up today and get it done.”
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 26, 2019 13:59:22 GMT
There's no hope needed, its pretty bloody obvious he won't be coming in as first choice, we always needed two left backs and if he's happy to wait for a chance then I don't see the problem. Is it? You have more faith in this lot than I do. Yes, very.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 13:59:57 GMT
Maybe he's on trial? Or just training with us for fitness? He played 44 games on loan at Brighton when Jones was there as first team coach. Makes a bit more sense now...seemed a bit random this morning without that link
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 26, 2019 14:00:06 GMT
Well, obviously more than a trial then. He seems to like him. A lot.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 14:04:00 GMT
Also mentions the fact he knows McClean as a selling point.
Obviously doesn't mean McClean won't be sold, but shows he's still in his thinking.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 26, 2019 14:06:52 GMT
And the award for skinniest football player 2019... Goes to Stephen Ward Has Crouch retired then ? No Stephen Ward won it 🙄😜
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 26, 2019 14:06:54 GMT
Wasn't he something to do with the Profumo Affair? Someone "would say that, wouldn't " they.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 26, 2019 14:06:59 GMT
I don't recall many having a problem when we signed him. He still had pace and knew where the back of the net was. Most were pleased as it meant we could get rid of the lazy fucker Jones. there were loads of negative posts Hackett 'too old' 'past it' lots of negativity re his QPR transfer day shenanigens 'I thought the objective was to get rid of the dead wood not attract it, club stinks.' Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/225710/mirror-odemwingie-kenwyne-swap#ixzz5rxAbERgfSpot on lordb. Of course those who slated him when we signed him will now point to the FACT that they KNEW he would get badly injured at Man Citeh 8 months after we signed him! You badly underestimate the perspicacity of some of our posters.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 14:09:54 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-stephen-ward-burnley-3022422Nathan Jones hopes to tie up his sixth signing of the summer today and bring in Stephen Ward as a free agent. “He’s a wonderful player, a great character, very experienced. He’s been promoted – won the Championship twice. He’s an Irish international, I worked with him, he’s technically very, very good so he ticks every box. It’s just the aging process is the only drawback. “We feel he can do a wonderful job and we hope we can tie everything up today and get it done.” That interview reads very much like he's coming here as first choice.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 26, 2019 14:13:18 GMT
Also mentions the fact he knows McClean as a selling point. Obviously doesn't mean McClean won't be sold, but shows he's still in his thinking. “With Stephen, he’s a specialist in what we need and he will provide vital competition and good strength in that area. Him and Macca (James McClean) on that side know each other as well so he ticks a lot of boxes." Sounds like (if we ARE playing a diamond) that it's only him and 'Macca' competing for the left back position (worryingly). Doesn't seem like he's on trial either.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 14:14:19 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-stephen-ward-burnley-3022422Nathan Jones hopes to tie up his sixth signing of the summer today and bring in Stephen Ward as a free agent. “He’s a wonderful player, a great character, very experienced. He’s been promoted – won the Championship twice. He’s an Irish international, I worked with him, he’s technically very, very good so he ticks every box. It’s just the aging process is the only drawback. “We feel he can do a wonderful job and we hope we can tie everything up today and get it done.” That interview reads very much like he's coming here as first choice. Wouldn't rule it out! Suppose it's a moot point until we see who else does or doesn't come in. Sentinel made a point of saying we wanted 2 left-backs though. Jones talked similarly positively about Cousins - but we can't be sure he'll start as DM either?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 26, 2019 14:15:25 GMT
He’s a specialist in what we need?
We’ve got enough ageing has-beens.
This one makes absolutely fuck all sense whatsoever.
Come on Nathan wake up, this one is a complete stinker.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 14:15:56 GMT
Hopefully this guy is the back-up - he's nearly 34 and barely featured for Burnley last year! If so, where this leaves McClean is anyone's guess McClean remains Jones' favourite player of the old (as in was here a year ago) guard. It's very difficult to see that change, although who's to say whether one of the new will be his latest love.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 14:16:02 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-stephen-ward-burnley-3022422Nathan Jones hopes to tie up his sixth signing of the summer today and bring in Stephen Ward as a free agent. “He’s a wonderful player, a great character, very experienced. He’s been promoted – won the Championship twice. He’s an Irish international, I worked with him, he’s technically very, very good so he ticks every box. It’s just the aging process is the only drawback. “We feel he can do a wonderful job and we hope we can tie everything up today and get it done.” That interview reads very much like he's coming here as first choice. “With Stephen, he’s a specialist in what we need and he will provide vital competition and good strength in that area." Not sure, but it doesn't sound like he's being brought in as #1 for that role (although it's clear that NJ likes him.)
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Post by Robo10 on Jun 26, 2019 14:17:10 GMT
He is an ACTUAL LEFT BACK though, who plays LEFT BACK so its a good addition in my opinion!
Solid pro, barely any injuries in his career to note, racked up over 400 club appearances, scores the odd goal, 50 international caps.
Whats not to like? Takes the pressure off, no need to panic buy, and time to bring somebody in for the future in the 'young and hungry' mould, wont be costing a lot, and Jonesy likes and trusts him.
Guessing NJ will have that conversation with him and his plans going forward.
Good signing.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 26, 2019 14:22:53 GMT
Also mentions the fact he knows McClean as a selling point. Obviously doesn't mean McClean won't be sold, but shows he's still in his thinking. McClean is going nowhere. NJ loves him, that should be very obvious by now.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 14:24:27 GMT
Also mentions the fact he knows McClean as a selling point. Obviously doesn't mean McClean won't be sold, but shows he's still in his thinking. McClean is going nowhere. NJ loves him, that should be very obvious by now. But assuming we do buy another left-back and play the diamond (I'd say both are very safe bets?), can you construct a scenario where he isn't the bittiest of bit-part players?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 26, 2019 14:26:47 GMT
McClean is going nowhere. NJ loves him, that should be very obvious by now. But assuming we do buy another left-back and play the diamond (I'd say both are very safe bets?), can you construct a scenario where he isn't the bittiest of bit-part players? As I said further above, isn't Jones intimating that it will be McClean or Ward on the left? Surely that's the only conclusion to draw if we are playing a diamond, he isn't remotely suggesting that McClean is likely to leave.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 14:27:14 GMT
He ticks every box does he Nathan....what about the box you stated was the prime one for a fullback in your system,the athleticism to get up and down the pitch quickly ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 14:28:48 GMT
But assuming we do buy another left-back and play the diamond (I'd say both are very safe bets?), can you construct a scenario where he isn't the bittiest of bit-part players? As I said further above, isn't Jones intimating that it will be McClean or Ward on the left? That's the only conclusion to draw if we are playing a diamond, he isn't remotely suggesting that McClean is likely to leave. McClean in front of Ward down the left side by the sounds of that interview. Very inspiring
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Post by onepara on Jun 26, 2019 14:29:15 GMT
Also mentions the fact he knows McClean as a selling point. Obviously doesn't mean McClean won't be sold, but shows he's still in his thinking. “With Stephen, he’s a specialist in what we need and he will provide vital competition and good strength in that area. Him and Macca (James McClean) on that side know each other as well so he ticks a lot of boxes." Sounds like (if we ARE playing a diamond) that it's only him and 'Macca' competing for the left back position (worryingly). Doesn't seem like he's on trial either. Ward will be at left back, with McClean in front of him. Reading between the lines, that's what N.J. is saying.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 26, 2019 14:30:23 GMT
As I said further above, isn't Jones intimating that it will be McClean or Ward on the left? That's the only conclusion to draw if we are playing a diamond, he isn't remotely suggesting that McClean is likely to leave. McClean in front of Ward down the left side by the sounds of that interview. Very inspiring But that isn't a diamond is it?
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 26, 2019 14:33:33 GMT
I don't know how good he will be for us, but it is clear Jones is creating a team that understand the system, what he wants, and play for each other.
In this day and age, I don't get the rampant ageism on this board. With modern training, diet, medical support, key hole surgery, etc. players can perform well into their 30s.
Pieters is clearly not what Jones wants, so be it. It strikes me he has "blotted his copy book" in some way.
We have lost a number of wise heads from the dressing in Crouch, Fletcher, Adam, plus others this year and it will be good to get some wisdom in. There are other old heads, but I wonder how much influence they have on the wayward characters. There has been a lot to admire about Burnley the past couple of seasons and if can bring some of their mojo then that can only be good.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 14:33:59 GMT
But assuming we do buy another left-back and play the diamond (I'd say both are very safe bets?), can you construct a scenario where he isn't the bittiest of bit-part players? As I said further above, isn't Jones intimating that it will be McClean or Ward on the left? Surely that's the only conclusion to draw if we are playing a diamond, he isn't remotely suggesting that McClean is likely to leave. Yeah - I take your point, Paul. There was no need to mention McClean in this context if he was mentally mulling a McClean-less future. Can't categorically rule out the LB choice will be Ward and McClean (Christ, writing that sentence was hard) But I'd still be amazed if we went from Justin to Ward.
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