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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 24, 2014 22:43:23 GMT
Further to the hints on the January thread from Views... Mirror |
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Post by trigger on Jan 24, 2014 22:47:44 GMT
I thought the objective was to get rid of the dead wood not attract it, club stinks.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2014 22:48:09 GMT
Oh ffs.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jan 24, 2014 22:48:46 GMT
Personally id swap kj for a copy of the mirror
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 24, 2014 22:48:52 GMT
I will say this.
If we are going to sign Odemwingie, we may as well stick a sly £500,000 bid in for the considerably more effective and not quite as old Ricardo Fuller. He's an all round better footballer than Odemwingie and there's an added bonus that he would bring with him.
Remember when a clearly past it and shit Thierry Henry signed for Arsenal and gave their season a little shot in the arm? Fuller is our Henry and I absolutely maintain that he's good enough for our level still.
The window has been a disaster and heads must roll, but if we're going to go in for our desperate ageing panic buys that might do us for six months if we're lucky, let's go for the right desperate ageing panic buy that might do us for six months if we're lucky.
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Post by kylelightbourne on Jan 24, 2014 22:51:14 GMT
I will say this. If we are going to sign Odemwingie, we may as well stick a sly £500,000 bid in for the considerably more effective and not quite as old Ricardo Fuller. He's an all round better footballer than Odemwingie and there's an added bonus that he would bring with him. Remember when a clearly past it and shit Thierry Henry signed for Arsenal and gave their season a little shot in the arm? Fuller is our Henry and I absolutely maintain that he's good enough for our level still. The window has been a disaster and heads must roll, but if we're going to go in for our desperate ageing panic buys that might do us for six months if we're lucky, let's go for the right desperate ageing panic buy that might do us for six months if we're lucky. Not quite as old?! He's definitely older |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 24, 2014 22:51:35 GMT
Cardiff must really think Wingie is finished if they're offering him in p/ex for KJ 6 months into a 3-year £30k-a-week deal?
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jan 24, 2014 22:51:45 GMT
Offloading Kenwyne = Good business
Signing Odemwingie on long term contract = bad business.
I'm not against him coming for 6 months at all. He's been shit at Cardiff but would give us another option in the short term.
But if we are giving him 2 year+ type contract it's mental. We would finally be freeing up some space in wages for a top new striker and we go and blow it on someone approaching 33 for the sake of convenience and the fact we are desperate.
What age did we let Ric go? He's got similar attributes to Odemwingie and I think it's fair to say it was the right decision.
If true this just stinks of desperation and you have to worry about the direction we are taking.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 24, 2014 22:52:35 GMT
In all fairness Jones has been poor all season done ok in the cup but Odemwingie might be a better option,i agree hardly inspiring but it might be an ends to a means.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jan 24, 2014 22:53:21 GMT
If this is as bad as its got then we are in big trouble imo.How can a bloke of 33 who hasn't cut it at Cardiff be our saviour?Transfer policy stinks for the last 12 months.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 22:54:08 GMT
I will say this. If we are going to sign Odemwingie, we may as well stick a sly £500,000 bid in for the considerably more effective and not quite as old Ricardo Fuller. He's an all round better footballer than Odemwingie and there's an added bonus that he would bring with him. Remember when a clearly past it and shit Thierry Henry signed for Arsenal and gave their season a little shot in the arm? Fuller is our Henry and I absolutely maintain that he's good enough for our level still. The window has been a disaster and heads must roll, but if we're going to go in for our desperate ageing panic buys that might do us for six months if we're lucky, let's go for the right desperate ageing panic buy that might do us for six months if we're lucky. No....as much as I admire the sentiments , the reality is rose tinted specs without substance. Fuller is no more ...not good enough and not worthy of contemplation. Odemwingie meantime should be left well alone.A waste of our wages. |
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Post by werrington on Jan 24, 2014 22:54:38 GMT
It would be a short term deal until the summer
I can't see a problem tbh but hey ho I'm not expecting numerus multi million pound signings
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Post by kylelightbourne on Jan 24, 2014 22:56:35 GMT
It would be a short term deal until the summer I can't see a problem tbh but hey ho I'm not expecting multi million pound signings And why would he sign a short term contract till the summer when he's got a 2 and half year one already? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2014 22:57:07 GMT
It would be a short term deal until the summer I can't see a problem tbh but hey ho I'm not expecting multi million pound signings He's on 35k until 2016, why would he move when he's on that? If he comes here, I'd expect him to be on close to that. |
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jan 24, 2014 22:57:11 GMT
It would be a short term deal until the summer I can't see a problem tbh but hey ho I'm not expecting multi million pound signings How do you known it would be short term? Why would Odemwingie give up a 3 year lucrative contract to join us for 6 months. If we could loan him then yeah but we can't. Doesn't add up mate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 22:57:40 GMT
He'd be a good short term solution.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 24, 2014 22:58:25 GMT
Its a strange old world that clubs new to the Prem like Hull and Cardiff seem to be able to leave the likes of ourselves playing very much 2nd fiddle in terms of transfer dealings!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 24, 2014 22:58:50 GMT
I did like Wingie a lot at West Brom. But that was 18 months ago when he was last relevant. I'd take that player for the rest of this season in a heartbeat. He could even play on either wing.
Since his fallout, he hasn't proven himself at all, though, has he?
He seems to have done the square root of sod all at Cardiff. The Cardiff fans are not enamoured.
33 in July and it's not often those types of player do anything meaningful beyond that age - especially if we're going to put him on his Cardiff terms - a juicy deal until summer 2016.
And why on earth would he leave Cardiff for less than the guaranteed £1.5m-a-year until summer 2016 he's on for currently?
If it is a straight swap for Jones, it won't be a disaster on the face of it. Even better if we get some nominal money in addition to Ken.
But you do wonder if he'll offer us much at all, certainly beyond this summer.
We were obviously prepared to give him that kind of deal in the summer, but you'd hope we wouldn't be quite as desperate to offer it to him again at this point, with his stock having fallen?
It could easily turn into an very painful last 2 years of his deal if he's contracted until his 35th birthday (as he is currently at Cardiff)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2014 22:59:49 GMT
Its a strange old world that clubs new to the Prem like Hull and Cardiff seem to be able to leave the likes of ourselves playing very much 2nd fiddle in terms of transfer dealings! They've got room to manoeuvre when it comes to wages. We haven't. And no one wants the players we want to sell. |
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Post by werrington on Jan 24, 2014 23:00:04 GMT
It would be a short term deal until the summer I can't see a problem tbh but hey ho I'm not expecting multi million pound signings And why would he sign a short term contract till the summer when he's got a 2 and half year one already? He would return back to Cardiff in the summer as it would be a loan They have a player who we don't want and vise versa I'm not saying he is the answer long term but short term this deal makes some sense |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 24, 2014 23:01:16 GMT
And why would he sign a short term contract till the summer when he's got a 2 and half year one already? He would return back to Cardiff in the summer as it would be a loan They have a player who we don't want and vise versa I'm not saying he is the answer long term but short term this deal makes some sense We can't have any more domestic loans, can we? |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jan 24, 2014 23:02:02 GMT
And why would he sign a short term contract till the summer when he's got a 2 and half year one already? He would return back to Cardiff in the summer as it would be a loan They have a player who we don't want and vise versa I'm not saying he is the answer long term but short term this deal makes some sense I didn't think we could have another domestic loan mate? |
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jan 24, 2014 23:02:18 GMT
I was keen on signing him in the summer when many were against it. From what ive seen of him at Cardiff this season he's been dog shit though and worse than that looked completely disinterested.
On top of that, we are accumulating enough players of suspect character in the squad so do we really want another one?
If its just till end of the season I haven't got a problem but that looks highly unrealistic.
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Post by kylelightbourne on Jan 24, 2014 23:03:23 GMT
And why would he sign a short term contract till the summer when he's got a 2 and half year one already? He would return back to Cardiff in the summer as it would be a loan They have a player who we don't want and vise versa I'm not saying he is the answer long term but short term this deal makes some sense Haven't seen any mention of a loan. That certainly wouldn't be as bad though. |
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 24, 2014 23:03:23 GMT
I'd have Odemwingie over Jones tbh........but only 'til next summer. Let's face it it's quite clear that Hughes isn't likely to use KJ so even an aging Odemwingie gives us more of an option than we have right now. He can be quick and creative on his day ( not sure how many he has left though, mind you ).
It's not exactly inspiring stuff though I have to say. Stoke's transfer business and funding continues to be a concern and it's hard to see why the club are so poor at it, given how long we've been in the league. Is it the transfer team, just a matter of money, or a bit of both? I don't know but it's time it was sorted out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 23:03:34 GMT
If we sign Odemwingie until the end of the season only, while swapping him for a player who no longer does what it says on the tin, then it's not a bad move.
I'd say he'd be a slight improvement on Kenwyne as a player, and we also get rid of a player that you get the impression is no longer wanted by too many people at the club. It's also a small insurance policy against us not getting one of our plan A targets.
If we sign him on anything other than a short term contract then it starts to look a lot more worrying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 23:03:46 GMT
Further to the hints on the January thread from Views... MirrorI think that if you read through the thread again (I don't blame you if you don't) - I said Cardiff before Mystic Dave gave out any clues. Maybe the Mirror have picked up on Mystic Dave's predictions? Predictions - sorry wrong word - guesses. |
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Post by werrington on Jan 24, 2014 23:04:28 GMT
He would return back to Cardiff in the summer as it would be a loan They have a player who we don't want and vise versa I'm not saying he is the answer long term but short term this deal makes some sense I didn't think we could have another domestic loan mate? Maybe Cardiff and himself have come to an agreement mate over his contract . |
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Post by kylelightbourne on Jan 24, 2014 23:04:30 GMT
Oh yeah that's true, no more loans.
Which means it would be a longer contract or nothing, which isn't good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 23:05:14 GMT
He'd be a good short term solution. No he wouldn't. He would be completely the opposite just like he has been at Cardiff. |
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