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Post by george2again on May 5, 2019 20:36:52 GMT
If only the other 2 had his attitude! As it is, will he stay to be presumably back-up left-back to the Luton kiddie or A.N. Other? Got to think we'll be open to moving him on if MON picks up the phone. He will stay as one of Jones' automatic choices, I'm afraid. There has been nothing to suggest Jones sees Stoke without McClean. It's unthinkable, for him, not me. Keeping McLean as back up is just about bearable, but having him in the team would condem us to championship football for another season. He is awful. He kill us as an attacking force.
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Post by Goonie on May 5, 2019 20:36:52 GMT
Awful, mechanical footballer with so little ability needs moving on priority number one, followed by Ince and the Afobe. We are woeful going foward and these three are the cause. If he was a 100% Rowett choice then that damns him in my eyes
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Post by stokemark on May 5, 2019 20:40:21 GMT
Ince, Afobe and McClean all need getting rid of if we are serious about a push next season
All 3 will be here come August
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Post by lordb on May 5, 2019 21:28:06 GMT
Awful, mechanical footballer with so little ability needs moving on priority number one, followed by Ince and the Afobe. We are woeful going foward and these three are the cause. If he was a 100% Rowett choice then that damns him in my eyes All three were Rowett's choices as were Woods and Clucas.
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Post by Goonie on May 5, 2019 21:28:46 GMT
Ince, Afobe and McClean all need getting rid of if we are serious about a push next season All 3 will be here come August I thought Ince looked ok at times but both he and McLean seemed sedentary today, no urgency and so many balls were played so slowly and behind their man losing all momentum. Afobe has no pace nor does Vokes, both target men but Vokes seems better suited to the role Woods brought the ball out well at times but he's no Charlie Adam - the creativity and spontaneity went up several notches when he and Bojan came on - we seem very predictable to play against - if that team had gotten promoted we'd have taken Derby's record low score of 11 points off them Teams that seem to do well nowadays are pacey and unpredictable and I hope that the manager is aiming to recruit this type of talent to fit in with his playing style - if he does then it bodes well for next season - if not expect another poor season of mediocrity- next season is the real test of Jones and his ability to recruit, train and man-manage a team I truly hope he's 'all that' and not a charlatan I feel positive tonight
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Post by bigcashprizes on May 5, 2019 21:32:03 GMT
I like Big Jim in general and appreciate his efforts, but some of his crosses today were truly soul-destroying. Fuckinell, he’s hard work at times
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Post by cousindupree on May 5, 2019 21:35:31 GMT
NJ is certainly a fan of Ince McClean and Clucas. I have to say I dont see much in any of them and they have been a major contributory to our lack of creativity and goals. These three are a huge part of our current attacking forwards/AM. If more than one start in August then we will not score enough goals to get us anywhere near even the playoffs. They were the problem this season surely we and Jones have learnt something about our inability to score.
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Post by Goonie on May 5, 2019 21:39:13 GMT
NJ is certainly a fan of Ince McClean and Clucas. I have to say I dont see much in any of them and they have been a major contributory to our lack of creativity and goals. These three are a huge part of our current attacking forwards/AM. If more than one start in August then we will not score enough goals to get us anywhere near even the playoffs. They were the problem this season surely we and Jones have learnt something about our inability to score. Let's hope it's all window dressing for the ones he doesn't rate
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Post by Goonie on May 5, 2019 21:43:49 GMT
I like Big Jim in general (my great great granddad was an IRA gun runner!) and appreciate his efforts, but some of his crosses today were truly soul-destroying. Fuckinell, he’s hard work at times See my post below regarding lack of pace, momentum, guile Only Premier league quality players are probably leaving but we need a team with heart and stamina too - Sheffield looked a team today and the lack of communication and intuition made us look like they'd just met We need players with guts and ambition with something to prove - I hope that is the talent pool we are fishing in
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Post by bigcashprizes on May 5, 2019 21:54:09 GMT
I like Big Jim in general (my great great granddad was an IRA gun runner!) and appreciate his efforts, but some of his crosses today were truly soul-destroying. Fuckinell, he’s hard work at times See my post below regarding lack of pace, momentum, guile Only Premier league quality players are probably leaving but we need a team with heart and stamina too - Sheffield looked a team today and the lack of communication and intuition made us look like they'd just met We need players with guts and ambition with something to prove - I hope that is the talent pool we are fishing in McClean has got heart and stamina in spades, but his feet seem back to front at times! Saying that, there’s been some worse offenders than him recently. I think he could be an essential part of a successful squad though. See what Nathan reckons
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Post by Goonie on May 5, 2019 21:58:26 GMT
See my post below regarding lack of pace, momentum, guile Only Premier league quality players are probably leaving but we need a team with heart and stamina too - Sheffield looked a team today and the lack of communication and intuition made us look like they'd just met We need players with guts and ambition with something to prove - I hope that is the talent pool we are fishing in McClean has got heart and stamina in spades, but his feet seem back to front at times! Saying that, there’s been some worse offenders than him recently. I think he could be an essential part of a successful squad though. See what Nathan reckons I think he'll be sold to a newly promoted side or a competitor but you never know
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Post by george2again on May 5, 2019 22:15:48 GMT
Ince, Afobe and McClean all need getting rid of if we are serious about a push next season All 3 will be here come August Think you are going to be right. The Nathan revolution is not going to be easy as half the shit we have we wont be able to move. Most of our budget will be spent on getting rid of players like these.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 23:04:19 GMT
As much as I hate the twat I can’t fault his attitude. However he is an atrocious footballer.
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Post by samba :) on May 5, 2019 23:32:13 GMT
Doesnt follow us on twitter Or sunderland 😂😂
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 6, 2019 5:35:43 GMT
Demoralising seeing him moving forward with the ball his first instinct seems to be to shield it or go to ground. It's not fucking rugby league where you gain yards when tackled.
No footballing nouse. The unnecessary controversy that he brings makes him the worst SCFC purchase in a good while for me.
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Post by kelw on May 6, 2019 6:49:48 GMT
Demoralising seeing him moving forward with the ball his first instinct seems to shield it or go to ground. It's not fucking rugby league where you gain yards when tackled. No footballing nouse. The unnecessary controversy that he brings makes him the worst SCFC purchase in a good while for me. Where's the yawn button. Was good yesterday but some can't change the boring, stuck record
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 6, 2019 7:20:58 GMT
Demoralising seeing him moving forward with the ball his first instinct seems to shield it or go to ground. It's not fucking rugby league where you gain yards when tackled. No footballing nouse. The unnecessary controversy that he brings makes him the worst SCFC purchase in a good while for me. Where's the yawn button. Was good yesterday but some can't change the boring, stuck record I think you've monopolized the yawn button. Listened to it yesterday not watched. Didn't hear much about his skilful attacking nouse, shots on target etc. He's shite going forward and your blinkered stoic support won't convince me otherwise. I hope he proves me wrong... no actually I hope some other mugs fancy him and he fucks off.
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Post by RAF on May 6, 2019 8:00:23 GMT
Demoralising seeing him moving forward with the ball his first instinct seems to shield it or go to ground. It's not fucking rugby league where you gain yards when tackled. No footballing nouse. The unnecessary controversy that he brings makes him the worst SCFC purchase in a good while for me. Where's the yawn button. Was good yesterday but some can't change the boring, stuck record No he wasn't he was very fucking average. Take your green specs off. H
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 6, 2019 8:03:34 GMT
Where's the yawn button. Was good yesterday but some can't change the boring, stuck record I think you've monopolized the yawn button. Listened to it yesterday not watched. Didn't hear much about his skilful attacking nouse, shots on target etc. He's shite going forward and your blinkered stoic support won't convince me otherwise. I hope he proves me wrong... no actually I hope some other mugs fancy him and he fucks off. Yeah. I don’t hate him, he puts in a shift, but he just isn’t good enough to be starting every week in a team with any sort of aspiration. He’s a none-trick pony, reluctant to take his man on and when he does it’s the same thing every time, try and get past him on the outside and get a cross in. There’s no trickery or variety. I don’t mind him stopping as a squad player but equally if someone offered us half what we paid he can go tomorrow.
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Post by luke45 on May 6, 2019 8:21:47 GMT
Personally I hope we retain him, if we're going to get out of this division we need players who are equipped with the right mentality to dig in deep and fight for every point and he can relied upon to do that.
Technically he is very limited but he has still chipped in with 3 goals and 6 assists this season which makes up 1/5 of the total amount of league goals we have scored!
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Post by dastokie on May 6, 2019 8:27:49 GMT
Second half yesterday was my highlight of the season when McClean cut inside and delivered a right foot cross that can only be described as unbelievable. You really did have to be there to believe a professional footballer could produce a terrible ball. On the plus side he ran up and down a lot
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 6, 2019 8:38:35 GMT
I think you've monopolized the yawn button. Listened to it yesterday not watched. Didn't hear much about his skilful attacking nouse, shots on target etc. He's shite going forward and your blinkered stoic support won't convince me otherwise. I hope he proves me wrong... no actually I hope some other mugs fancy him and he fucks off. Yeah. I don’t hate him, he puts in a shift, but he just isn’t good enough to be starting every week in a team with any sort of aspiration. He’s a none-trick pony, reluctant to take his man on and when he does it’s the same thing every time, try and get past him on the outside and get a cross in. There’s no trickery or variety. I don’t mind him stopping as a squad player but equally if someone offered us half what we paid he can go tomorrow. I certainly don't hate him either. That'd be a waste of emotional energy on such a biege player.
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Post by thestatusquo on May 6, 2019 8:49:13 GMT
Works hard but very limited. Won’t improve as he gets older.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 6, 2019 9:02:26 GMT
If we're after players who have the right attitude and run a lot, I believe Paula Radcliffe I'd available and would probably be available on a free. Winner!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 9:13:28 GMT
He’s not been great but he’s by no means the worst. His crosses can make you cringe at times but it’s not helped by the fact there’s hardly been anyone in the box or whoever has been has not made effort to get anywhere near it.
Out of all of the Rowett signings, he’s the least of my concerns. I’d rather see Verlinden take his place but I’d be happy to have him on the bench for us next season.
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Post by questionable on May 6, 2019 9:26:48 GMT
He’s always been that sort of player, bang average and, well pretty shite.
So now to the process, allegedly we’ve watched him 20+ times and then had the audacity to pay way over the odds and no doubt on 20k plus for what, 3-4 years??
Sorry but we’re stuck with the plodding along player
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Post by stuammo on May 6, 2019 10:36:05 GMT
Genuinely one of the worst players I’ve seen. Has no ability whatsoever. The only footballer I know who constantly needs to look at the ball and not look up to see where to pass. His crosses hardly ever get past the first man and has no skill to go past a man other than to just run through him. Terrible player
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2019 10:45:37 GMT
Genuinely one of the worst players I’ve seen. Has no ability whatsoever. The only footballer I know who constantly needs to look at the ball and not look up to see where to pass. His crosses hardly ever get past the first man and has no skill to go past a man other than to just run through him. Terrible player If he's one of the worst then you are a very lucky Stoke fan. He's not a good player but have seen oodles worse than him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 6, 2019 10:57:50 GMT
He’s always been that sort of player, bang average and, well pretty shite. So now to the process, allegedly we’ve watched him 20+ times and then had the audacity to pay way over the odds and no doubt on 20k plus for what, 3-4 years?? Sorry but we’re stuck with the plodding along player He was a Rowett pick wasn’t he? That circumvents ‘the process’.
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Post by robstokie on May 6, 2019 11:24:05 GMT
Hard worker, but lacks quality in the final third. Decent enough for coming on for the last 20 minutes if we are trying to see out a game and want to press up on the centre-halves to stop them getting the ball forward, but not a starter if we want to push on next season.
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