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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 1:07:37 GMT
I think it is more likely his judge of a player. He likes3 forward players and he as signed 3 Ince on and off, McLean not good enough and his forward Efob asnt worked out! They are his creative forwards and they are not good enough in the system he is playing! You still need some sort of creative option in your middle three though. He’s tried more than once to claim that Allen and Clucas are attacking midfielders which suggests he’s either deluded or thinks we’re thick as mince. That's my point, he's deluded. He sees something in Allen we don't see.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 5, 2019 1:21:56 GMT
You still need some sort of creative option in your middle three though. He’s tried more than once to claim that Allen and Clucas are attacking midfielders which suggests he’s either deluded or thinks we’re thick as mince. That's my point, he's deluded. He sees something in Allen we don't see. I don’t think he sees Allen or any of the others as especially attacking really, he just doesn’t have the bollocks to play creative players.
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 5, 2019 6:48:32 GMT
It’s not even that he ‘sees them’ as that, he doesn’t have the bollocks to play actual creative players in the necessary positions, let’s say it how it is. I think it is more likely his judge of a player. He likes3 forward players and he as signed 3 Ince on and off, McLean not good enough and his forward ack asnt worked out! They are his creative forwards and they are not good enough in the system he is playing! Like him or loathe him, when we cry out for attacking football he is the only one who gets passed a player and puts a cross in. Granted he’s capability is limited, that’s because he’s a Championship player.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 5, 2019 7:18:33 GMT
While Rowett has made some fairly horrible tactical decisions that has resulted in ineffective, unpalatable, and unproductive football on the park some of the posts on this thread really show how reason goes out of the window at this time. In fact some of his signings have been amongst our better players Ince, Woods, Clucas, McLean (sorry guys but it’s true). Others have been poor - Afobe, Martina, Williams. Just the normal mixed bag that most managers achieve. His post match comments regarding players have been nothing to get offended by. The Bojan stuff is entirely the fault of a section of supporters clutching at the thinnest of straws and making it an issue and if they can’t handle someone pointing this out it’s a pity they are so thin skinned - especially as they are probably only too keen to dole out abuse in the opposite direction. Rowett generally speaks well and with feeling and seems a perfectly reasonable person to me (it’s not necessarily arrogance to stick by your personal belief in how a job should be done especially if you are prepared to accept the consequences) His crime if you can call it that is to get his mix of tactics and players wrong (and some of those players have let him and themselves down) and that has sealed his fate in this most results based of business’.
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Post by pottermouth on Jan 5, 2019 7:20:06 GMT
It seems that this seems to be an unpopular opinion at the moment, but im gonna try and muster some sort of defence in favour of keeping Rowett. Yes we are underachieving at the moment, but I think many people (myself included) underestimated how difficult the transition was going to be, and it was very clear in the early stages of the season that the players confidence was still shot from the Hughes era. Rowett has gone some way to remedying this, we are relatively hard to beat and players such as Allen and Butland and to an extent Berahino and Pieters have recaptured the form they are capable of. Plus his signings, Martina aside, have all done well and imo have improved the side if we can get the right players in January to help turn some of these draws into wins we'd be right up there. Furthermore whilst the football has been dire far too often we have shown glimpses of what we are capable of in spells (villa,derby,sheff wed). This is not a happy clapping thread and many of the criticisms levelled at Rowett are valid, however I feel that some fans are jumping the gun too early and that we should at least give Rowett till the end of the season, and the january window, and then reassess his performance then. Rowett’s position is untenable. He’s alienated the fans; got poor tactics; produced dour football and worst of all the results are a disgrace. I’ve called for big Sam but the least we need is to get rid of this current incumbent ASAP imho.
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Post by santy on Jan 5, 2019 7:49:36 GMT
His signings aren't really my issue at all. A decent manager can sign functional players, it's not entirely impossible to get a set-up that could for cater for Martina for example. But Rowett doesn't do that, he plays Ince who has the proclivity to come inside and Martina on the flank who tends to wander very far forward and it leaves the team horribly unbalanced without anyone designated to fill the space.
Tactics is the big problem, not formation, tactics. The way in which he instructs the team to play is a relic of top level football 15 years ago when most teams were playing this style of football but in a 4-2-3-1 formation with someone who tended to be great at unlocking defences behind the striker. Kaka, Nedved, Deco, Zidane, Sneijder those kinds of names are the standout reminders.
Rowett has dropped that role more on the shoulders of Woods than even trying a more positive use of the role further up the pitch in the two players we arguably have suited to it, in Bojan and Adam.
Furthermore, he is obsessed that the ball into the box should be a cross rather than passing through the middle. Typically speaking according to all the stats you will average around 1 goal for every 70 crosses. There are of course some more effective types of crossing than others, but the one we use of outside the box, lofted crosses are among the most ineffective.
I'd have no problem getting behind Rowett if there was something to get behind, but it's an ineffective build up play, layered up with ineffective chance creation. Most of our goals seem to have come at times in spite of what Rowett tells the team to do - not because it. A good free kick, or a bit of a strike from nothing from Ince or Fletcher coming well out of position to create an overload in the box. He doesn't understand the criticism coming his way because on one hand he's saying he's not going to play long ball/percentage football like the fans want yet the fans are calling for Bojan - who isn't suited to that either.
If we were just entering 2004 with Rowett at the helm playing this football we'd be overwhelming teams. The problem is defending has improved a lot, managers of the likes of Allardyce, Pulis and many others showed how drilled defensive play could render this style inert and football moved on.
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Post by drfishy on Jan 5, 2019 9:10:00 GMT
Rowett has a huge backroom team with a coach for nearly every position in the club. Are they are useless? if not surely they should take some of the blame for what's going on,can't they see what most of the fans can ? If they can Rowett can't be that stubborn to ignore hem , can he?
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Jan 5, 2019 9:47:54 GMT
While Rowett has made some fairly horrible tactical decisions that has resulted in ineffective, unpalatable, and unproductive football on the park some of the posts on this thread really show how reason goes out of the window at this time. In fact some of his signings have been amongst our better players Ince, Woods, Clucas, McLean (sorry guys but it’s true). Others have been poor - Afobe, Martina, Williams. Just the normal mixed bag that most managers achieve. His post match comments regarding players have been nothing to get offended by. The Bojan stuff is entirely the fault of a section of supporters clutching at the thinnest of straws and making it an issue and if they can’t handle someone pointing this out it’s a pity they are so thin skinned - especially as they are probably only too keen to dole out abuse in the opposite direction. Rowett generally speaks well and with feeling and seems a perfectly reasonable person to me (it’s not necessarily arrogance to stick by your personal belief in how a job should be done especially if you are prepared to accept the consequences) His crime if you can call it that is to get his mix of tactics and players wrong (and some of those players have let him and themselves down) and that has sealed his fate in this most results based of business’. Were you at the Bolton game? I was sat in the Bolton end behind the dug outs and the three things I took from his post match comments were: 1: "boo me don't boo the fans" Sitting 25 yards from Rowett, it was obvious the fans were giving him stick, not the team. Turning the abuse onto the team was not the right answer in this one. 2: Bojan/Delap gate (MK1). Whilst Bojan may not be the answer, Neither is Rowetts set up or Tactics, I kind of feel that Bojan is used as a statement for a number 10 rather than a plea for the little man himself. There's nothing creative or exciting on the field and that's what fans want. 3: Bojan/Delap gate (MK2). These comments were ill advised, regardless of your views on Bojan being the saviour or not, you can't mock the fans by the comparing a current fans favourite to a retired legend. It's disrespectful to not only the fans who spent money and travelled to a bore draw, but also the player employed by Stoke. Add into the mix the hypocritical treatment of Bauer vs McClean, Instagram messages 2018, hanging players out to dry, the uncomfortable atmosphere of Bristol (where I actually felt sorry for the man), the inability to admit what he's doing isn't working and most importantly the results/league position, he knows more than anyone he's only got himself to blame. By no stretch of the imagination am I a Rowett abuser, I've been very fair and willing to give the man a chance, I'd still love to see him succeed however unlikely that may be. I wouldn't even say I'm 100% Rowett out (although I'm probably in the high 80s), but to say "reason goes out the window" and defend the manager in the way you have is as oxymoronic as it gets.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 5, 2019 9:57:48 GMT
Rowett has a huge backroom team with a coach for nearly every position in the club. Are they are useless? if not surely they should take some of the blame for what's going on,can't they see what most of the fans can ? If they can Rowett can't be that stubborn to ignore hem , can he? I would suggest his choice and management of coaches is no better or worse than players. Why should it be? Just because he was a great player for us, doesn't mean Rory is a great coach. Similarly Phillips, although in his case it is possible to see Berahino looks a lot better than under Hughes and Lambert, but still left to hang about on his own.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 5, 2019 10:02:41 GMT
While Rowett has made some fairly horrible tactical decisions that has resulted in ineffective, unpalatable, and unproductive football on the park some of the posts on this thread really show how reason goes out of the window at this time. In fact some of his signings have been amongst our better players Ince, Woods, Clucas, McLean (sorry guys but it’s true). Others have been poor - Afobe, Martina, Williams. Just the normal mixed bag that most managers achieve. His post match comments regarding players have been nothing to get offended by. The Bojan stuff is entirely the fault of a section of supporters clutching at the thinnest of straws and making it an issue and if they can’t handle someone pointing this out it’s a pity they are so thin skinned - especially as they are probably only too keen to dole out abuse in the opposite direction. Rowett generally speaks well and with feeling and seems a perfectly reasonable person to me (it’s not necessarily arrogance to stick by your personal belief in how a job should be done especially if you are prepared to accept the consequences) His crime if you can call it that is to get his mix of tactics and players wrong (and some of those players have let him and themselves down) and that has sealed his fate in this most results based of business’. Were you at the Bolton game? I was sat in the Bolton end behind the dug outs and the three things I took from his post match comments were: 1: "boo me don't boo the fans" Sitting 25 yards from Rowett, it was obvious the fans were giving him stick, not the team. Turning the abuse onto the team was not the right answer in this one. 2: Bojan/Delap gate (MK1). Whilst Bojan may not be the answer, Neither is Rowetts set up or Tactics, I kind of feel that Bojan is used as a statement for a number 10 rather than a plea for the little man himself. There's nothing creative or exciting on the field and that's what fans want. 3: Bojan/Delap gate (MK2). These comments were ill advised, regardless of your views on Bojan being the saviour or not, you can't mock the fans by the comparing a current fans favourite to a retired legend. It's disrespectful to not only the fans who spent money and travelled to a bore draw, but also the player employed by Stoke. Add into the mix the hypocritical treatment of Bauer vs McClean, Instagram messages 2018, hanging players out to dry, the uncomfortable atmosphere of Bristol (where I actually felt sorry for the man), the inability to admit what he's doing isn't working and most importantly the results/league position, he knows more than anyone he's only got himself to blame. By no stretch of the imagination am I a Rowett abuser, I've been very fair and willing to give the man a chance, I'd still love to see him succeed however unlikely that may be. I wouldn't even say I'm 100% Rowett out (although I'm probably in the high 80s), but to say "reason goes out the window" and defend the manager in the way you have is as oxymoronic as it gets. Very sincere post. Sympathy crossed my mind when I started to call for him to be sacked back in October, but then I remembered the pay-off he will receive and the play-off we won't get.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 5, 2019 10:03:12 GMT
While Rowett has made some fairly horrible tactical decisions that has resulted in ineffective, unpalatable, and unproductive football on the park some of the posts on this thread really show how reason goes out of the window at this time. In fact some of his signings have been amongst our better players Ince, Woods, Clucas, McLean (sorry guys but it’s true). Others have been poor - Afobe, Martina, Williams. Just the normal mixed bag that most managers achieve. His post match comments regarding players have been nothing to get offended by. The Bojan stuff is entirely the fault of a section of supporters clutching at the thinnest of straws and making it an issue and if they can’t handle someone pointing this out it’s a pity they are so thin skinned - especially as they are probably only too keen to dole out abuse in the opposite direction. Rowett generally speaks well and with feeling and seems a perfectly reasonable person to me (it’s not necessarily arrogance to stick by your personal belief in how a job should be done especially if you are prepared to accept the consequences) His crime if you can call it that is to get his mix of tactics and players wrong (and some of those players have let him and themselves down) and that has sealed his fate in this most results based of business’. I’ll go with the majority of your comments, in particular about Bojan. I have sat on the fence about Rowettt whilst understanding the extent of the issues that relegation would bring. However with five months gone and being half a season in I’m really wondering whether it’s worth turning up on a cold or wet matchday/night. I’ve suffered as many with two years of absolute dross and GR has added no more than consistency in that respect. A wag sitting behind me summed it all up during the Milwall game when Butland’s goal kick went straight through to their keeper. Can we class that as an attempt at goal he shouted. Funny at the time but retrospectively bang on the button for expressing frustration and apathy. If Rowlett was to leave it just might be the catalyst for a significant change in thinking (long over due) by the owners. I’m deeply disappointed at what appears to be a complete waste of a season to-date and to be brutally honest I’m not sure that with Rowlett in charge next season would be no more than a slight improvement
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 5, 2019 10:03:57 GMT
While Rowett has made some fairly horrible tactical decisions that has resulted in ineffective, unpalatable, and unproductive football on the park some of the posts on this thread really show how reason goes out of the window at this time. In fact some of his signings have been amongst our better players Ince, Woods, Clucas, McLean (sorry guys but it’s true). Others have been poor - Afobe, Martina, Williams. Just the normal mixed bag that most managers achieve. His post match comments regarding players have been nothing to get offended by. The Bojan stuff is entirely the fault of a section of supporters clutching at the thinnest of straws and making it an issue and if they can’t handle someone pointing this out it’s a pity they are so thin skinned - especially as they are probably only too keen to dole out abuse in the opposite direction. Rowett generally speaks well and with feeling and seems a perfectly reasonable person to me (it’s not necessarily arrogance to stick by your personal belief in how a job should be done especially if you are prepared to accept the consequences) His crime if you can call it that is to get his mix of tactics and players wrong (and some of those players have let him and themselves down) and that has sealed his fate in this most results based of business’. Were you at the Bolton game? I was sat in the Bolton end behind the dug outs and the three things I took from his post match comments were: 1: "boo me don't boo the fans" Sitting 25 yards from Rowett, it was obvious the fans were giving him stick, not the team. Turning the abuse onto the team was not the right answer in this one. 2: Bojan/Delap gate (MK1). Whilst Bojan may not be the answer, Neither is Rowetts set up or Tactics, I kind of feel that Bojan is used as a statement for a number 10 rather than a plea for the little man himself. There's nothing creative or exciting on the field and that's what fans want. 3: Bojan/Delap gate (MK2). These comments were ill advised, regardless of your views on Bojan being the saviour or not, you can't mock the fans by the comparing a current fans favourite to a retired legend. It's disrespectful to not only the fans who spent money and travelled to a bore draw, but also the player employed by Stoke. Add into the mix the hypocritical treatment of Bauer vs McClean, Instagram messages 2018, hanging players out to dry, the uncomfortable atmosphere of Bristol (where I actually felt sorry for the man), the inability to admit what he's doing isn't working and most importantly the results/league position, he knows more than anyone he's only got himself to blame. By no stretch of the imagination am I a Rowett abuser, I've been very fair and willing to give the man a chance, I'd still love to see him succeed however unlikely that may be. I wouldn't even say I'm 100% Rowett out (although I'm probably in the high 80s), but to say "reason goes out the window" and defend the manager in the way you have is as oxymoronic as it gets. Pretty spot on that. I don't think anyone believes the inclusion of Bojan wil, suddenly turn our season round, but for a manager to constantly complain about a lack of creativity when we don't win and not include Bojan in the squad is redicullous. The ole's are just pointing out what a prune the manager is.
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Post by santy on Jan 5, 2019 10:34:03 GMT
I don't think Peter Coates can cop too much blame for how Rowett has ultimately panned out (he's had no interference, he's had money, he's not had Coates in the press too much this year). You have to remember there's a process in which you talk to people, and some people can talk exceptionally well. Indeed, if you look at the stats at a broad level and the data from his time at Derby it does look like on one hand he plays quite a positive style. It's been mentioned to me by someone who's a Derby fan and does a bit of dabbling with Opta etc that when you look at the numbers at Derby the good spell was just out-performing statistical averages. When Derby were playing "terrible" and almost failed to make the playoffs, what had actually happened was that their attack and defence had merely reverted back to pretty much bang on the statistical averages.
When things are going well and you're on a run statistics lose a lot of their weight of course because you can't factor that in. The same applies when things are going bad, statistics can't ever show the human element but they can show what should/shouldn't work.
What could be a criticism is that whoever is involved in our data set-up (and presumably this would fall on Mark Cartwright to be providing advice on this front) has not done their work right. But Rowett was backed by his own extensive data team, it's likely that ultimately there was a way to present it that made it hard to argue with somewhere down the line and the club felt he could bring similar here.
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Onto some contextual stuff, remember that with less than what we've spent Wolves took a team from 15th to comfortable 1st, primarily by going with a positive way of playing. Norwich and Leeds have been more positive this season and both risen from midtable/bottom half teams to top of the table with far less spending than that of Wolves.
It won't last forever, but right now you have to play a fluid degree of football that creates overloads. That's the way to succeed. Raw technical ability is at an all time low in terms of impact since I've been watching football. It has standout moments, especially in games between the biggest teams, but players who used to have one standout technical aspect to their game have fallen by the wayside. Think of the likes of David Beckham, where would he fit in with the current game? David Bentley another, he retired at 29 but had he been in his prime in the 70's, 80's or 90's he may well have been held in the highest regard.
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Post by potterpaul on Jan 5, 2019 11:01:02 GMT
Were you at the Bolton game? I was sat in the Bolton end behind the dug outs and the three things I took from his post match comments were: 1: "boo me don't boo the fans" Sitting 25 yards from Rowett, it was obvious the fans were giving him stick, not the team. Turning the abuse onto the team was not the right answer in this one. 2: Bojan/Delap gate (MK1). Whilst Bojan may not be the answer, Neither is Rowetts set up or Tactics, I kind of feel that Bojan is used as a statement for a number 10 rather than a plea for the little man himself. There's nothing creative or exciting on the field and that's what fans want. 3: Bojan/Delap gate (MK2). These comments were ill advised, regardless of your views on Bojan being the saviour or not, you can't mock the fans by the comparing a current fans favourite to a retired legend. It's disrespectful to not only the fans who spent money and travelled to a bore draw, but also the player employed by Stoke. Add into the mix the hypocritical treatment of Bauer vs McClean, Instagram messages 2018, hanging players out to dry, the uncomfortable atmosphere of Bristol (where I actually felt sorry for the man), the inability to admit what he's doing isn't working and most importantly the results/league position, he knows more than anyone he's only got himself to blame. By no stretch of the imagination am I a Rowett abuser, I've been very fair and willing to give the man a chance, I'd still love to see him succeed however unlikely that may be. I wouldn't even say I'm 100% Rowett out (although I'm probably in the high 80s), but to say "reason goes out the window" and defend the manager in the way you have is as oxymoronic as it gets. Pretty spot on that. I don't think anyone believes the inclusion of Bojan wil, suddenly turn our season round, but for a manager to constantly complain about a lack of creativity when we don't win and not include Bojan in the squad is redicullous. The ole's are just pointing out what a prune the manager is. There must be more behind the Bojan issue because we should have cut his last loan short last January to give Lambert another option, again as you stated above that's not to say he was the answer to our survival, the fact Bojan wanted to return and his loan club didn't want him, we just refused to break the contract. We just let him rot for no good reason or for a reason we are not privvey to.
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Post by Bagwash on Jan 5, 2019 12:33:15 GMT
While Rowett has made some fairly horrible tactical decisions that has resulted in ineffective, unpalatable, and unproductive football on the park some of the posts on this thread really show how reason goes out of the window at this time. In fact some of his signings have been amongst our better players Ince, Woods, Clucas, McLean (sorry guys but it’s true). Others have been poor - Afobe, Martina, Williams. Just the normal mixed bag that most managers achieve. His post match comments regarding players have been nothing to get offended by. The Bojan stuff is entirely the fault of a section of supporters clutching at the thinnest of straws and making it an issue and if they can’t handle someone pointing this out it’s a pity they are so thin skinned - especially as they are probably only too keen to dole out abuse in the opposite direction. Rowett generally speaks well and with feeling and seems a perfectly reasonable person to me (it’s not necessarily arrogance to stick by your personal belief in how a job should be done especially if you are prepared to accept the consequences) His crime if you can call it that is to get his mix of tactics and players wrong (and some of those players have let him and themselves down) and that has sealed his fate in this most results based of business’. Were you at the Bolton game? I was sat in the Bolton end behind the dug outs and the three things I took from his post match comments were: 1: "boo me don't boo the fans" Sitting 25 yards from Rowett, it was obvious the fans were giving him stick, not the team. Turning the abuse onto the team was not the right answer in this one. 2: Bojan/Delap gate (MK1). Whilst Bojan may not be the answer, Neither is Rowetts set up or Tactics, I kind of feel that Bojan is used as a statement for a number 10 rather than a plea for the little man himself. There's nothing creative or exciting on the field and that's what fans want. 3: Bojan/Delap gate (MK2). These comments were ill advised, regardless of your views on Bojan being the saviour or not, you can't mock the fans by the comparing a current fans favourite to a retired legend. It's disrespectful to not only the fans who spent money and travelled to a bore draw, but also the player employed by Stoke. Add into the mix the hypocritical treatment of Bauer vs McClean, Instagram messages 2018, hanging players out to dry, the uncomfortable atmosphere of Bristol (where I actually felt sorry for the man), the inability to admit what he's doing isn't working and most importantly the results/league position, he knows more than anyone he's only got himself to blame. By no stretch of the imagination am I a Rowett abuser, I've been very fair and willing to give the man a chance, I'd still love to see him succeed however unlikely that may be. I wouldn't even say I'm 100% Rowett out (although I'm probably in the high 80s), but to say "reason goes out the window" and defend the manager in the way you have is as oxymoronic as it gets. Excellent post Rondog,although I am 100% Rowett out. As other posters have pointed out about Bojan not even being involved I think GR's comments after the Walsall friendly suggested he had already made his mind up about Bojan.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 5, 2019 12:54:14 GMT
While Rowett has made some fairly horrible tactical decisions that has resulted in ineffective, unpalatable, and unproductive football on the park some of the posts on this thread really show how reason goes out of the window at this time. In fact some of his signings have been amongst our better players Ince, Woods, Clucas, McLean (sorry guys but it’s true). Others have been poor - Afobe, Martina, Williams. Just the normal mixed bag that most managers achieve. His post match comments regarding players have been nothing to get offended by. The Bojan stuff is entirely the fault of a section of supporters clutching at the thinnest of straws and making it an issue and if they can’t handle someone pointing this out it’s a pity they are so thin skinned - especially as they are probably only too keen to dole out abuse in the opposite direction. Rowett generally speaks well and with feeling and seems a perfectly reasonable person to me (it’s not necessarily arrogance to stick by your personal belief in how a job should be done especially if you are prepared to accept the consequences) His crime if you can call it that is to get his mix of tactics and players wrong (and some of those players have let him and themselves down) and that has sealed his fate in this most results based of business’. Were you at the Bolton game? I was sat in the Bolton end behind the dug outs and the three things I took from his post match comments were: 1: "boo me don't boo the fans" Sitting 25 yards from Rowett, it was obvious the fans were giving him stick, not the team. Turning the abuse onto the team was not the right answer in this one. 2: Bojan/Delap gate (MK1). Whilst Bojan may not be the answer, Neither is Rowetts set up or Tactics, I kind of feel that Bojan is used as a statement for a number 10 rather than a plea for the little man himself. There's nothing creative or exciting on the field and that's what fans want. 3: Bojan/Delap gate (MK2). These comments were ill advised, regardless of your views on Bojan being the saviour or not, you can't mock the fans by the comparing a current fans favourite to a retired legend. It's disrespectful to not only the fans who spent money and travelled to a bore draw, but also the player employed by Stoke. Add into the mix the hypocritical treatment of Bauer vs McClean, Instagram messages 2018, hanging players out to dry, the uncomfortable atmosphere of Bristol (where I actually felt sorry for the man), the inability to admit what he's doing isn't working and most importantly the results/league position, he knows more than anyone he's only got himself to blame. By no stretch of the imagination am I a Rowett abuser, I've been very fair and willing to give the man a chance, I'd still love to see him succeed however unlikely that may be. I wouldn't even say I'm 100% Rowett out (although I'm probably in the high 80s), but to say "reason goes out the window" and defend the manager in the way you have is as oxymoronic as it gets. I’ve no particular issue with anything you say other than I don’t think there is any disrespect intended in pointing out the folly of some supporters going on about Bojan . Why shouldn’t an intelligent manager be able to say that ? With regard Bauer / McLean etc none of us has a clue what goes on behind the scenes. If we did it could be you would be 100% in agreement with the decision not to select Bauer. The only thing we know is that the football is frustrating to watch and doesn’t produce results.... because of that he is probably history. Vilifying the mans character is silly and wrong but some people unfortunately seem to get some joy out of it.
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Post by themistocles on Jan 5, 2019 13:23:21 GMT
Anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 13:24:26 GMT
There will still be a couple.
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Post by milky on Jan 5, 2019 13:26:56 GMT
Never mind
Blackpoolred will be along later telling us what fantastic job Rowett is doing / has done.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 5, 2019 13:27:30 GMT
There will still be a couple. Rowett and his wife ?
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Jan 5, 2019 13:29:08 GMT
Signal 2 comments:
No leadership
No commitment
Public Park defending
Every player just laying down and "letting it happen"
F*ck me!!!
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Jan 5, 2019 13:29:25 GMT
AXE
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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 5, 2019 13:31:49 GMT
Has the OP been admitted to the Looney bin yet ?
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