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Post by mrteddysalad on Dec 9, 2018 0:05:43 GMT
In the limited time they’ve played together early in the campaign, Bojan and Saido played off each other really well. GR must have been disgusted watching skillful creative play.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 9, 2018 0:16:14 GMT
In the limited time they’ve played together early in the campaign, Bojan and Saido played off each other really well. GR must have been disgusted watching skillful creative play. Our best "football" of the season was Afobe, Bera and Bojan and Ince in triangles. What did Rowett do? Killed it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 0:19:03 GMT
Pre Rochdale he was magnificent. After the injury he’s been wank. Sorry Bojan you were once a favourite but unfortunately injury did you. Good luck in Seria C somewhere
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Post by tosh on Dec 9, 2018 1:00:48 GMT
Pre Rochdale he was magnificent. After the injury he’s been wank. Sorry Bojan you were once a favourite but unfortunately injury did you. Good luck in Seria C somewhere How many more times do we have to read this nonsense? Some of Bojan’s best games for us were after his recovery from injury. Why anyone would back Rowett freezing him out without giving him a chance to show what he can do is a total mystery. His cameos this season have instantly made the team look better. If he had played today, he undoubtedly has the talent to have taken the Ipswich defence apart. Would he have done it? We’ll never know will we?. We have suffered watching some dross though, from his favourites, who have been given chance after chance. Thanks for boring me rigid Gary and driving out of the club one of the few players worth watching.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 9, 2018 1:06:44 GMT
Pre Rochdale he was magnificent. After the injury he’s been wank. Sorry Bojan you were once a favourite but unfortunately injury did you. Good luck in Seria C somewhere Lies, for the millionth time.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 9, 2018 1:21:57 GMT
Pre Rochdale he was magnificent. After the injury he’s been wank. Sorry Bojan you were once a favourite but unfortunately injury did you. Good luck in Seria C somewhere Bet you didn't cheer when we came on and within minutes scored a header to give us a draw vs Rotherham after Rowett's shit lineup lead us 1 down being negative in possession as always versus Rotherham of all teams. Even in his limited ostracized inclusion, he's got more flair than most in this league and our team. Seria C, B and A included.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 9, 2018 1:37:43 GMT
In explaining why Bojan wasn’t on the bench Rowett said they wanted to give younger players a chance (Campbell would have been on the bench at Reading, Sorensen was today) but which three did he bring on? McClean, Fletcher and Crouch! What a tosser! That doesn't make sense does it, I thought you had to have home grown on the bench anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 8:02:55 GMT
Pre Rochdale he was magnificent. After the injury he’s been wank. Sorry Bojan you were once a favourite but unfortunately injury did you. Good luck in Seria C somewhere Bet you didn't cheer when we came on and within minutes scored a header to give us a draw vs Rotherham after Rowett's shit lineup lead us 1 down being negative in possession as always versus Rotherham of all teams. Even in his limited ostracized inclusion, he's got more flair than most in this league and our team. Seria C, B and A included. Why wouldn’t I cheer? Just because my opinion is he’s never been the same player doesn’t make me dislike the bloke at all. Facts are he’s not been the same player and when started offered very little
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 8:04:29 GMT
Pre Rochdale he was magnificent. After the injury he’s been wank. Sorry Bojan you were once a favourite but unfortunately injury did you. Good luck in Seria C somewhere Lies, for the millionth time. I’ve read that back 6 times and still not sure what you mean
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 9, 2018 8:11:39 GMT
Bet you didn't cheer when we came on and within minutes scored a header to give us a draw vs Rotherham after Rowett's shit lineup lead us 1 down being negative in possession as always versus Rotherham of all teams. Even in his limited ostracized inclusion, he's got more flair than most in this league and our team. Seria C, B and A included. Why wouldn’t I cheer? Just because my opinion is he’s never been the same player doesn’t make me dislike the bloke at all. Facts are he’s not been the same player and when started offered very little Started in a shit Rowett lineup is the fact, or brought on with 15 left. A GOOD manager would have him at #10 each week.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 8:17:01 GMT
Why wouldn’t I cheer? Just because my opinion is he’s never been the same player doesn’t make me dislike the bloke at all. Facts are he’s not been the same player and when started offered very little Started in a shit Rowett lineup is the fact, or brought on with 15 left. A GOOD manager would have him at #10 each week. Based on what? A header at Rotherham? How many loans as he had and failed at? You obviously see him in training more than rowett then as let’s face facts, if he was that good he would be starting
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Post by jeycov on Dec 9, 2018 8:19:36 GMT
I don't disagree, he's failed to find form during his 2 years away and he was no worse than anyone else at Wolves that day- that was one of the worst collective team efforts I've ever seen. But to put blame on him for or demise is crazy, he was out the door whilst it all unfolded. I did also what Bojan could bring to us in the Championship but during his brief cameos he's shown more creativity than we'd seen all season up to that point and I'm not sure why he's been completely shelved. He can find a forward pass where other can’t and looked like him and Ince could be magic together...Ince commented on how much he liked playing with him after one match...can’t remember which. Shame as to what might have been but I hope purely for his own sake he goes and finds somewhere he gets to play. Come on Tom, remind the management just how well the 2 of them have benefited from working together, ideally in another media interview
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Dec 9, 2018 8:30:01 GMT
In explaining why Bojan wasn’t on the bench Rowett said they wanted to give younger players a chance (Campbell would have been on the bench at Reading, Sorensen was today) but which three did he bring on? McClean, Fletcher and Crouch! What a tosser! Rowett is just so economical with the truth. League rules require a club to have at least one player in the matchday squad who has come through the clubs Acadamy. Hence why Edwards has been in most of the squads and why Sorenson was there today. I am really starting to detest this man with a passion. I didn't like much of what Pulis used to say but in 5 months this horrible little gob shite has insulted the supporters on too many occasions for my liking. A decent employer would have publicly reprimanded him by now but I am afraid the Coates' family wealth has allowed them to forget what a decent employer looks like.
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Post by rawli on Dec 9, 2018 8:41:14 GMT
If you want to get rid of a player then play your best number 10 out on the wing for the last 10/15 minutes. That achieves two things: It placates the supporters who have been clamouring for him to get a game while at the same time it makes said player look bad. Bojan is our best number 10 but it doesn't help when your manager insists on playing a lone striker game after game, especially a lone striker who is useless at being a lone striker. Then when you've achieved that, put a half fit journeyman and Fletcher on the bench and drop the number 10 you want to get rid of. And to cap it all off, once you've played all your negative cards, come on the radio and tell the truth that, all along you never wanted said number 10 at the club from the off. Rowett must think we all fell off a christmas tree. He forgets that we had years of Pulis who was better at sleight of hand and deception than he'll ever be. Seriously, does anyone with more than one brain cell think MacClain and Fletcher are better players than Bojan? OS. He's scared that Bojan would play well if he picked him. It's terrible how he's being treated.
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Post by rawli on Dec 9, 2018 8:44:12 GMT
Lies, for the millionth time. I’ve read that back 6 times and still not sure what you mean The bit where you said he's been wank since his injury. It's not true.
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Post by tosh on Dec 9, 2018 8:56:36 GMT
Started in a shit Rowett lineup is the fact, or brought on with 15 left. A GOOD manager would have him at #10 each week. Based on what? A header at Rotherham? How many loans as he had and failed at? You obviously see him in training more than rowett then as let’s face facts, if he was that good he would be starting Oh no he wouldn’t, If Gary hasn’t signed you and he takes a dislike to you, you’ve had it mate. Just ask Bauer! Rowett seemed to take an instant dislike to Bojan when the fans chanted his name in pre season games. He made some barbed sarcastic comment about “fan’s favourite”. You sensed then Rowett was likely to try to exclude Bojan and also that he was going to be a manager who had no instinct for building a rapport with fans and getting them behind him. Lambert was streets ahead of him in that respect. Is Rowett likely to give Bojan the chance to prove him wrong, with a few games in his correct position? Think he’s a bit too arrogant for that unfortunately. Putting the injured McLean and Fletcher on the bench yesterday probably gave us the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 9:02:09 GMT
I’ve read that back 6 times and still not sure what you mean The bit where you said he's been wank since his injury. It's not true. Unfortunately it is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 9:05:25 GMT
Based on what? A header at Rotherham? How many loans as he had and failed at? You obviously see him in training more than rowett then as let’s face facts, if he was that good he would be starting Oh no he wouldn’t, If Gary hasn’t signed you and he takes a dislike to you, you’ve had it mate. Just ask Bauer! Rowett seemed to take an instant dislike to Bojan when the fans chanted his name in pre season games. He made some barbed sarcastic comment about “fan’s favourite”. You sensed then Rowett was likely to try to exclude Bojan and also that he was going to be a manager who had no instinct for building a rapport with fans and getting them behind him. Lambert was streets ahead of him in that respect. Is Rowett likely to give Bojan the chance to prove him wrong, with a few games in his correct position? Think he’s a bit too arrogant for that unfortunately. Putting the injured McLean and Fletcher on the bench yesterday probably gave us the answer. Not necessarily true regarding if rowett hasn’t signed you then you don’t play is it? Jack, Erik, Indi, Ryan, Allen, Saido, all starting regularly. As for Bauer I’m a fan and want him playing myself, however we have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes, rumours of him turning up late, being a distraction, not giving a shit, spending more time on social media than actually putting a shift in etc, that looks like the problem with him.
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Post by tosh on Dec 9, 2018 9:06:58 GMT
The bit where you said he's been wank since his injury. It's not true. Unfortunately it is. No it isn’t. Once again, Bojan played some of hist best games for Stoke after his recovery from injury. That is a fact.
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Post by tosh on Dec 9, 2018 9:11:30 GMT
Oh no he wouldn’t, If Gary hasn’t signed you and he takes a dislike to you, you’ve had it mate. Just ask Bauer! Rowett seemed to take an instant dislike to Bojan when the fans chanted his name in pre season games. He made some barbed sarcastic comment about “fan’s favourite”. You sensed then Rowett was likely to try to exclude Bojan and also that he was going to be a manager who had no instinct for building a rapport with fans and getting them behind him. Lambert was streets ahead of him in that respect. Is Rowett likely to give Bojan the chance to prove him wrong, with a few games in his correct position? Think he’s a bit too arrogant for that unfortunately. Putting the injured McLean and Fletcher on the bench yesterday probably gave us the answer. Not necessarily true regarding if rowett hasn’t signed you then you don’t play is it? Jack, Erik, Indi, Ryan, Allen, Saido, all starting regularly. As for Bauer I’m a fan and want him playing myself, however we have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes, rumours of him turning up late, being a distraction, not giving a shit, spending more time on social media than actually putting a shift in etc, that looks like the problem with him. I actually said if he didn’t sign you AND if he took a dislike to you’ve had it which I think is true.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 9:21:34 GMT
No it isn’t. Once again, Bojan played some of hist best games for Stoke after his recovery from injury. That is a fact. What are these best games?
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Post by sasfan on Dec 9, 2018 9:22:09 GMT
Bojan is one of the most talented footballers I’ve ever seen in a Stoke shirt. The injury and his other health issues have sadly stunted his career but a regular spell in his correct position - number 10 imo - would see him blossom again. He will, however, never fit into a GR team because he’s not a good enough manager to use him correctly. The football under GR at Derby was shocking and he’s continued that here. He can only see one way of playing and that doesn’t include flair players.
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 9, 2018 9:26:01 GMT
What I find odd about it is that Bojan is different, he admits that Crouch offers something different, but that extension doesn’t extend to Bojan even if it’s on the bench. He also admits that he’s a very good footballer and he’s no trouble so I’m afraid the only answer is that he isn’t a Rowett type of player
Speaking to a mate who’s a Derby fan he says he did exactly this to Will Hughes and Tom Ince before then signing Ince for us
Bizarre, I can see someone like Wolves, Brighton etc coming in for him and with a manager believing in him he will be a success
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 9, 2018 9:26:58 GMT
Bojan is one of the most talented footballers I’ve ever seen in a Stoke shirt. The injury and his other health issues have sadly stunted his career but a regular spell in his correct position - number 10 imo - would see him blossom again. He will, however, never fit into a GR team because he’s not a good enough manager to use him correctly. The football under GR at Derby was shocking and he’s continued that here. He can only see one way of playing and that doesn’t include flair players. spot on
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Post by stokeylad on Dec 9, 2018 9:37:15 GMT
No it isn’t. Once again, Bojan played some of hist best games for Stoke after his recovery from injury. That is a fact. What are these best games? 2-0 wins against Man Utd and Man City. 4-3 win at Everton. instrumental in all those games. You know the games where we were called Stokelona and played the best football in the clubs history. But apparently some Stoke fans STILL think Bojan was worse after his injury.....We don’t deserve nice things if this how we treat them.
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Post by santy on Dec 9, 2018 9:37:31 GMT
In the season Bojan was injured he'd played 16 scored 4. The season after he came back from injury, he played 27 and scored 7. Only Arnautovic scored more than him in the league that year.
I mean if the lad scores 7 while behind the striker in a primarily creative capacity and isn't at his best you'd think it might be worth persisting with the next season. However, Bojan was allowed to leave on loan that season and we finished 13th. Then allowed to leave again the next season on loan we finished 19th.
Now it's not all down to one player, but it seems like arguably we were missing a little something.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 9, 2018 9:49:13 GMT
Bojan is one of the most talented footballers I’ve ever seen in a Stoke shirt. The injury and his other health issues have sadly stunted his career but a regular spell in his correct position - number 10 imo - would see him blossom again. He will, however, never fit into a GR team because he’s not a good enough manager to use him correctly. The football under GR at Derby was shocking and he’s continued that here. He can only see one way of playing and that doesn’t include flair players. spot on Rowett hasn't got the imagination to include players like Bojan. I've tried to like him, but I can't. I felt the same about Pulis, but at least he achieved something.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 9, 2018 9:49:44 GMT
Lies, for the millionth time. I’ve read that back 6 times and still not sure what you mean It's false. His best football for Stoke was over the Christmas period of 2015, almost a year after his injury. With Arnautovic and Shaqiri either side of him we were shredding Man United and Man City to pieces. "He's never been the same since his injury" is said on an almost daily basis on this board and it's completely untrue.
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 9, 2018 9:53:07 GMT
I’ve read that back 6 times and still not sure what you mean It's false. His best football for Stoke was over the Christmas period of 2015, almost a year after his injury. With Arnautovic and Shaqiri either side of him we were shredding Man United and Man City to pieces. "He's never been the same since his injury" is said on an almost daily basis on this board and it's completely untrue. i thought his injury occurs vs Rochdale which was after that, late Jan if I recall
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 9, 2018 9:55:14 GMT
It's false. His best football for Stoke was over the Christmas period of 2015, almost a year after his injury. With Arnautovic and Shaqiri either side of him we were shredding Man United and Man City to pieces. "He's never been the same since his injury" is said on an almost daily basis on this board and it's completely untrue. i thought his injury occurs vs Rochdale which was after that, late Jan if I recall It was Jan 2015, so nearly a year before Stokealona.
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