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Post by nott1 on Dec 9, 2018 10:00:14 GMT
Pre Rochdale he was magnificent. After the injury he’s been wank. Sorry Bojan you were once a favourite but unfortunately injury did you. Good luck in Seria C somewhere How many more times do we have to read this nonsense? Some of Bojan’s best games for us were after his recovery from injury. Why anyone would back Rowett freezing him out without giving him a chance to show what he can do is a total mystery. His cameos this season have instantly made the team look better. If he had played today, he undoubtedly has the talent to have taken the Ipswich defence apart. Would he have done it? We’ll never know will we?. We have suffered watching some dross though, from his favourites, who have been given chance after chance. Thanks for boring me rigid Gary and driving out of the club one of the few players worth watching. It's Rowett who needs to be frozen out and Bojan reinstated. I've been supporting this club for 65 years and I have occasionally witnessed the odd crap manager and tactics, but this guy is such an arrogant cunt I'd love to see his come uppence. We need entertaining not boring to death!
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 9, 2018 10:47:20 GMT
i thought his injury occurs vs Rochdale which was after that, late Jan if I recall It was Jan 2015, so nearly a year before Stokealona. well bloody hell, I could have sworn his injury was the end of Stokealona, but thinking about it your right, when we rinsed the Arse here, he played behind crouch who scored after about 1 minute and Walters was on the right
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Post by nenepotter on Dec 9, 2018 11:56:11 GMT
When Bojan first arrived i wasnt so impressed, there were glimpses of what he could offer, he was in and out the team but then he started to click and had to play ... until the injury. I think the same this season ; he needs some game time, confidence building which I thought he was getting even coming off the bench. All of sudden that's over. Very poor treatment in my opinion, and he could offer so much, even with his perceived weaknesses it is worth the risk.
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Post by Bagwash on Dec 9, 2018 15:54:02 GMT
I’ve read that back 6 times and still not sure what you mean It's false. His best football for Stoke was over the Christmas period of 2015, almost a year after his injury. With Arnautovic and Shaqiri either side of him we were shredding Man United and Man City to pieces. "He's never been the same since his injury" is said on an almost daily basis on this board and it's completely untrue. And the one about him being too lightweight and gets knocked off the ball very easily. Trouble is we won't find out because our 'manager' hasn't a clue. Prefers Fletcher.That says it all.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 9, 2018 16:13:22 GMT
I’ve read that back 6 times and still not sure what you mean It's false. His best football for Stoke was over the Christmas period of 2015, almost a year after his injury. With Arnautovic and Shaqiri either side of him we were shredding Man United and Man City to pieces. "He's never been the same since his injury" is said on an almost daily basis on this board and it's completely untrue. It's absolute bullshit by the "non" football hoofball fans on here who want graft and draws ad nauseum under Rowett.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 9, 2018 16:21:59 GMT
How many more times do we have to read this nonsense? Some of Bojan’s best games for us were after his recovery from injury. Why anyone would back Rowett freezing him out without giving him a chance to show what he can do is a total mystery. His cameos this season have instantly made the team look better. If he had played today, he undoubtedly has the talent to have taken the Ipswich defence apart. Would he have done it? We’ll never know will we?. We have suffered watching some dross though, from his favourites, who have been given chance after chance. Thanks for boring me rigid Gary and driving out of the club one of the few players worth watching. It's Rowett who needs to be frozen out and Bojan reinstated. I've been supporting this club for 65 years and I have occasionally witnessed the odd crap manager and tactics, but this guy is such an arrogant cunt I'd love to see his come uppence. We need entertaining not boring to death! Careful, I got a ban last week for calling Rowett a 'jug-eared c*nt'.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 17:09:11 GMT
Bet you didn't cheer when we came on and within minutes scored a header to give us a draw vs Rotherham after Rowett's shit lineup lead us 1 down being negative in possession as always versus Rotherham of all teams. Even in his limited ostracized inclusion, he's got more flair than most in this league and our team. Seria C, B and A included. Why wouldn’t I cheer? Just because my opinion is he’s never been the same player doesn’t make me dislike the bloke at all. Facts are he’s not been the same player and when started offered very little How many times has he started and in his natural place on the pitch? You don't need many fingers to count that. So it's no wonder he didnt offer much, because he wasnt playing.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Dec 9, 2018 17:10:34 GMT
I hope when he does leave it's permanent so I won't have to suffer the "we need to bring Bojan back" threads. Although we'd probably still get them after he's retired.
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Post by milky on Dec 9, 2018 17:29:28 GMT
While the argument whether Bojan does or doesnt deserve a place in the side is a valid one , and he should be on the bench at the very least , there is no argument whatsoever that Rowett does not like any more than one creative player in his team.
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Post by jeycov on Dec 9, 2018 18:02:54 GMT
What I find odd about it is that Bojan is different, he admits that Crouch offers something different, but that extension doesn’t extend to Bojan even if it’s on the bench. He also admits that he’s a very good footballer and he’s no trouble so I’m afraid the only answer is that he isn’t a Rowett type of player Speaking to a mate who’s a Derby fan he says he did exactly this to Will Hughes and Tom Ince before then signing Ince for us Bizarre, I can see someone like Wolves, Brighton etc coming in for him and with a manager believing in him he will be a success Or Newcastle
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Post by skiptomylou on Dec 9, 2018 18:46:26 GMT
I think it just shows a complete lack of respect and class, to arguably, one of the most naturally gifted footballers in this division. Its basically told him he's not good enough to even be on the bench against the worst team in the championship!
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 9, 2018 18:51:38 GMT
I think it just shows a complete lack of respect and class, to arguably, one of the most naturally gifted footballers in this division. Its basically told him he's not good enough to even be on the bench against the worst team in the championship! What do you expect. It's Rowett. He's an arsehole. We deserve what is to come giving a psychopath the reign.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 9, 2018 18:58:35 GMT
It's Rowett who needs to be frozen out and Bojan reinstated. I've been supporting this club for 65 years and I have occasionally witnessed the odd crap manager and tactics, but this guy is such an arrogant cunt I'd love to see his come uppence. We need entertaining not boring to death! Careful, I got a ban last week for calling Rowett a 'jug-eared c*nt'. Surely you can't be banned for telling the truth and giving an accurate description?
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Post by hooftastic on Dec 9, 2018 18:59:54 GMT
I hope when he does leave it's permanent so I won't have to suffer the "we need to bring Bojan back" threads. Although we'd probably still get them after he's retired. It took us nearly a decade to forget about Tuncay! Hope he doesn't though, am very much in the Bojan stays camp. Even being extremely cynical he's better than most of the options in creative midfield positions. Also, I doubt very much that we'd have brought Sorenson on to change the game on Saturday (if we'd needed it). Just can't see Rowett trusting him. Would have been Fletcher, which makes Sorenson's inclusion, and Bojan' omission a total waste..... unless there is more to the story.
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Post by skiptomylou on Dec 9, 2018 19:04:30 GMT
I hope he signs for someone in the MLS and he just goes and enjoys his football again. the bloke doesn't deserve the treatment he's getting at our club.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 9, 2018 20:31:51 GMT
I hope he gets a move to a lower-to-mid-table Prem team and rips it to fucking shreds and proves all his doubters wrong.
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Post by boru on Dec 9, 2018 22:33:02 GMT
Where iis he going ??
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Post by marwood on Dec 10, 2018 9:16:54 GMT
Gym, training, home, eat sleep repeat hes not getting on our bench on match day so the gist of the thread is that he will be away on his toes next month
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Post by stokeyank on Dec 10, 2018 18:17:15 GMT
Not a huge McClain fan but he occasionally gives us a bit more grit which is sometimes needed. At this point though why Fletcher is even on the bench is a mystery. While possibly not every game Bojan should be there against some teams that setup more defensively. Bojan is not about 'grit'. Bojan is about creativity, which he's very good at when played in the number 10 role with players around him who have skill and can read a game. You need some gritty players in a side but the number 10 doesn't have to be one of them. Over many decades I've seen some great players playing for Stoke in that number 10 role, and most of them were not gritty players. As for MacClain, using an equine analogy, he's purely a workhorse wearing blinkers. We plough the field and scatter... that sort of stuff. And continuing that analogy, Bojan is the type most foxhunters would want to be on to lead the hunt. Tally ho! OS. Agreed, I was saying McClain is about grit which is the one quality he has, and Bojan certainly does not. Agree with you on this.
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Post by stokeson on Dec 10, 2018 19:55:01 GMT
Just another stick to beat Rowett with. Hes past his best ( which was Very good) but nothing to offer by way of changing game..
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 10, 2018 22:24:10 GMT
I hope he signs for someone in the MLS and he just goes and enjoys his football again. the bloke doesn't deserve the treatment he's getting at our club. Since falling out of favour at Barcelona Bojan has failed to hold down a place under any manager at any club he's been at. To blame Rowett or Stoke City for Bojan not living up to his potential is utter garbage. He hasn't got what it takes to make it in any top class, physically demanding league. A move to the MLS may not be a bad idea - given more time and space on the ball he might get away with being too lightweight for a proper league.
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Post by stokierich on Dec 10, 2018 22:45:34 GMT
I hope he signs for someone in the MLS and he just goes and enjoys his football again. the bloke doesn't deserve the treatment he's getting at our club. Since falling out of favour at Barcelona Bojan has failed to hold down a place under any manager at any club he's been at. To blame Rowett or Stoke City for Bojan not living up to his potential is utter garbage. He hasn't got what it takes to make it in any top class, physically demanding league. A move to the MLS may not be a bad idea - given more time and space on the ball he might get away with being too lightweight for a proper league. What a load of bollocks, he's more then capable of making it in this league. It doesn't matter what he dose, Rowett made his mine up on him on day one! he was never going fit into the type player he likes and history would tell you that. The bloke is a fucking clown not even naming him on the bench now, shocking appointment.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 11, 2018 19:31:22 GMT
Since falling out of favour at Barcelona Bojan has failed to hold down a place under any manager at any club he's been at. To blame Rowett or Stoke City for Bojan not living up to his potential is utter garbage. He hasn't got what it takes to make it in any top class, physically demanding league. A move to the MLS may not be a bad idea - given more time and space on the ball he might get away with being too lightweight for a proper league. What a load of bollocks, he's more then capable of making it in this league. It doesn't matter what he dose, Rowett made his mine up on him on day one! he was never going fit into the type player he likes and history would tell you that. The bloke is a fucking clown not even naming him on the bench now, shocking appointment. Pre-season Rowett gave Bojan a chance - and early season he had game time. If he'd made his mind up on day one why didn't he just get rid of him before the season began and get someone else in? Rowett gave Bojan a chance. However - as per every other chance he's been given - he failed to take it. Bojan has the technical ability to play in the Premiership let alone the Championship. However playing at the top level requires more than pure technical ability - he simply hasn't got the physical or mental attributes to make it. The first person to notice was that no hope clogger lover Pep Guardiola. What happened to that particular clown of a manager by the way? It's really sad - but to blame everyone else for Bojan's failings is ridiculous.
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Post by Bagwash on Dec 11, 2018 20:12:16 GMT
Can't see what Bojans 'failings' are this season because the few games he has started and the short cameo appearances towards the end of games,I think he has been one of our better players. Imho he should be given a decent run in the side and then he can be judged fairly but as has been posted earlier Rowatt has made his mind up and prefers other players who offer us absolutely nothing.
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Post by nenepotter on Dec 11, 2018 20:12:40 GMT
Post injury Bojan
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Post by Bagwash on Dec 11, 2018 20:56:54 GMT
How many of the current squad could you see being as positive as that? The answer is less than 1 and equals 0.
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Post by tosh on Dec 11, 2018 22:05:57 GMT
What a load of bollocks, he's more then capable of making it in this league. It doesn't matter what he dose, Rowett made his mine up on him on day one! he was never going fit into the type player he likes and history would tell you that. The bloke is a fucking clown not even naming him on the bench now, shocking appointment. Pre-season Rowett gave Bojan a chance - and early season he had game time. If he'd made his mind up on day one why didn't he just get rid of him before the season began and get someone else in? Rowett gave Bojan a chance. However - as per every other chance he's been given - he failed to take it. Bojan has the technical ability to play in the Premiership let alone the Championship. However playing at the top level requires more than pure technical ability - he simply hasn't got the physical or mental attributes to make it. The first person to notice was that no hope clogger lover Pep Guardiola. What happened to that particular clown of a manager by the way? It's really sad - but to blame everyone else for Bojan's failings is ridiculous. R What pessimistic nonsense. Bojan has looked pretty good without any run of games. How many chances has Afobe had to look good. And we’re still waiting, as is the manager, with the patience reserved for his own signings! If he’d had a bit of that patience with Bojan we might have seen again the excellent player we had previously. We could certainly do with some of that joy and exuberance he brought to our team. He might get Afobe firing too. Ok. He only played about 100 + games for Pep Guardiola’s Barca and won just the 3 La Liga and 2 Champions League medals, and he may not be good enough for that level now, - but not good enough for Rowett’s Stoke City bench in the championship against bottom club Ipswich? Give over. We’ll probably never ever have a player with that CV again, and I for one want to see him play before it’s too late. This manager is giving a good impersonation of an arrogant and conceited individual, who unfortunately seems well capable of causing further serious damage to our club.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 12, 2018 0:19:13 GMT
Ah the old “wasn’t the same player after injury” line has been trotted out again I see.
I don’t know how many more times it needs to be shot down, because it’s utter piss.
He is, without a shadow of doubt, the most technically gifted player in the entire league, all of it, and the fact he’s been completely ostracised when we’re crying out for some positivity is further damning of the character that Rowett is beginning to reveal.
A boring team in a boring league playing boring football for a boring twat of a manager.
But still, we’ve got the evergreen Darren Fletcher to call upon in times of great strife.
Kill me.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 12, 2018 0:25:36 GMT
Ah the old “wasn’t the same player after injury” line has been trotted out again I see. I don’t know how many more times it needs to be shot down, because it’s utter piss. He is, without a shadow of doubt, the most technically gifted player in the entire league, all of it, and the fact he’s been completely ostracised when we’re crying out for some positivity is further damning of the character that Rowett is beginning to reveal. A boring team in a boring league playing boring football for a boring twat of a manager. But still, we’ve got the evergreen Darren Fletcher to call upon in times of great strife. Kill me. He’s one of the most technically gifted players in the entire country
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 12, 2018 0:35:12 GMT
Ah the old “wasn’t the same player after injury” line has been trotted out again I see. I don’t know how many more times it needs to be shot down, because it’s utter piss. He is, without a shadow of doubt, the most technically gifted player in the entire league, all of it, and the fact he’s been completely ostracised when we’re crying out for some positivity is further damning of the character that Rowett is beginning to reveal. A boring team in a boring league playing boring football for a boring twat of a manager. But still, we’ve got the evergreen Darren Fletcher to call upon in times of great strife. Kill me. Pretty much sums it up. You also forgot the he's "too soft" yet he's fine in the PL versus even tougher athletes and now in his limited inclusion in the EFL he's got no chance it's laughable to suggest. We need more positivity and creativity not graft and no possession, it's how we've lost so many damn wins to draws under Rowettball. McClean, Fletcher is the "way" it seems, the way into lower midtable come March.
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