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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 12:27:03 GMT
Most football boots are all colours these days anyway so it won't be much of a statement. Nobody will notice.
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Post by madnellie on Nov 17, 2018 12:28:08 GMT
99.9% of fans don't give a fuck. Fake sympathy from pro-football who worship only the coin. Ah ok, I get what you're saying now. Sadly I think you're right about the money part too. They don't seem to do much in this game anymore that doesn't make some billionaire somewhere even richer.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 17, 2018 12:28:18 GMT
Most of the comments on this thread prove exactly why the campaign is good. If you're genuinely upset about people wearing different shoelaces to show solidarity then I'd suggest it is you who has the problem. Is anyone actually bothered about the laces? I'm not. I think they're a good thing. What I don't think is clever, is how people say "we should wear these laces because gay men are killing themselves". Actually, the biggest killer among ALL men under the age 40 is suicide. The numbers are staggering, but because a large majority of those are straight white men, nobody actually gives a flying fuck. White lives don't matter.
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 17, 2018 12:29:45 GMT
It seems all a bit gay to me 😎
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 12:37:30 GMT
This is only the start. For the Derby County game, all players are wearing flip-flops instead of football boots, in support of the Vegan Society.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 17, 2018 12:38:31 GMT
Hilarious that a lot of the same people upset by this and tossing about terms like ‘virtue signalling’ are the same people who lost their shit about McClean not wearing a poppy.
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Post by adi on Nov 17, 2018 12:41:08 GMT
It seems that if you’re not onboard with this arrangement then you have a problem. Let people wear whatever they want, it won’t make me personally more aware, and it should be something that you can ignore if you don’t want to be involved in it, which I guess laces are. This whole trans thing seems to have come to the fore only in the last few years but I have no idea how big a thing it is because I have no connection or interest in it. Gay/lesbian is what it is too, let people do whatever they want as long as it doesn’t negatively affect me is my standpoint. It seems to have brought the worst out in both camps though which is ironic.
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Post by madnellie on Nov 17, 2018 12:44:00 GMT
Most football boots are all colours these days anyway so it won't be much of a statement. Nobody will notice. Good point
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 12:49:19 GMT
Most of the comments on this thread prove exactly why the campaign is good. If you're genuinely upset about people wearing different shoelaces to show solidarity then I'd suggest it is you who has the problem. Is anyone actually bothered about the laces? I'm not. I think they're a good thing. What I don't think is clever, is how people say "we should wear these laces because gay men are killing themselves". Actually, the biggest killer among ALL men under the age 40 is suicide. The numbers are staggering, but because a large majority of those are straight white men, nobody actually gives a flying fuck. As above, in the comment regarding 'all this propaganda'. Are you really saying that no-one gives a fuck about white straight male suicide? Whilst supporting a club with 'Mind' written in huge letters on the back every shirt?
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 17, 2018 12:50:04 GMT
While I am prepared fo acept the right for them to live there lives how they see fit I wish they would respect my right not to give a flying fuck and stop the constant barage of propaganda For fuck's sake. ??? Propaganda 😂 I do love this board.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Nov 17, 2018 13:08:00 GMT
But clearly you do give a flying fuck? Clearly this is something you feel strongly about, or you would just be passively indifferent? And what is this 'constant barrage of propaganda' ... I must be blind and deaf to have missed it all these years? No I don’t give a flying fuck what sexuality anyone is or what ithey do behind closed doors I don’t believe a persons sexuality should be exhibited in public including heterosexual It’s all part of the snowflaking of society where we are all supposed to be touchy feely and offer shit load of fake sympathy every time someone’s upset It’s not for me "Snowflaking of society...It's not for me" says the bloke complaining about and getting offended by bloody multi coloured shoelaces Fucking brilliant Genuinely one of the most stupid and funniest comments i've read on this board for ages Do you not see the tiniest bit of irony there mate? Genius!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 13:17:05 GMT
This is only the start. For the Derby County game, all players are wearing flip-flops instead of football boots, in support of the Vegan Society. Glenn Whelan wunna be best pleased.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 17, 2018 13:23:42 GMT
Oh no will Mr McClean wear them with his strong Catholic beliefs. Or will he give a statement about his beliefs and upset Block 19. Block 19
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 17, 2018 13:44:03 GMT
I don’t get this.
For years I thought the argument was gay/lesbian athletes wanted to be treated the same as straight ones, surely bowling around with rainbows for laces goes against this? Surely it’s singling them out more?
Just play your sport, we shouldn’t have to have these sort of things, it’s 2018, who gives a shit who you like sharing a bed with, it’s sporting prowess that matters.
There’s a lot more worthwhile things we could use the reach of football to address, male suicide for a kick off, this is just pandering for something that really shouldn’t be an issue in a modern society.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 17, 2018 13:49:49 GMT
I'm confused. What is the problem with us doing this? I've no idea mate. No one is forcing anyone to wear them. Yes but you know they will force them, then tie them up with rainbow laces and make them gay!
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 17, 2018 13:51:20 GMT
I don’t get this. For years I thought the argument was gay/lesbian athletes wanted to be treated the same as straight ones, surely bowling around with rainbows for laces goes against this? Surely it’s singling them out more? Just play your sport, we shouldn’t have to have these sort of things, it’s 2018, who gives a shit who you like sharing a bed with, it’s sporting prowess that matters. There’s a lot more worthwhile things we could use the reach of football to address, male suicide for a kick off, this is just pandering for something that really shouldn’t be an issue in a modern society. The fact that there are no openly gay footballers shows that it is still, sadly, an issue.
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Post by blackpoolred on Nov 17, 2018 13:58:52 GMT
I love Rainbow:
We should have Zippy and Bungle running the line and Geoffrey as the ref - all in High heels of course.
On another note I will finally be able to wear my Stilethous for a game without being judged, but I am outraged about having to wear a rainbow coloured armband along with the red and white stripes of SCFC - I mean it just does not match - This is a real bitch slap, but whatever
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:04:18 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/news/potters-backing-rainbow-laces-campaignIf LGBT people want to attend football matches, crack on- I don't think anyone would bat an eyelid. What people do find irritating though is unnecessary virtue-signalling (IMHO of course). I can't imagine rainbow-coloured substitute boards will make any difference whatsoever to LGBT rights around the globe- it will probably massage somebody's ego though. Good point well made Why must people where their political correctness like a big neon sign saying "look at me, aren't I great?". (or 'woke' if you're a youngster!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 14:09:17 GMT
This is only the start. For the Derby County game, all players are wearing flip-flops instead of football boots, in support of the Vegan Society. Update: They played in flipflops for the most of last season and the beginning of this 😬 Oh and although flipflops are probably vegan they are environmentally bad due to being made from plastic, aka fossil fuels, and will take eons to decompose. You've now offended environmentalists! 😬 Everyone has an agenda nowadays 🤔😕😟
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Post by metalhead on Nov 17, 2018 14:14:12 GMT
Is anyone actually bothered about the laces? I'm not. I think they're a good thing. What I don't think is clever, is how people say "we should wear these laces because gay men are killing themselves". Actually, the biggest killer among ALL men under the age 40 is suicide. The numbers are staggering, but because a large majority of those are straight white men, nobody actually gives a flying fuck. As above, in the comment regarding 'all this propaganda'. Are you really saying that no-one gives a fuck about white straight male suicide? Whilst supporting a club with 'Mind' written in huge letters on the back every shirt? I don't believe there is a whole lot of help for straight white men, whether they are suffering from mental health issues or domestic violence. It appears you have to subscribe to some kind of 'minority' in order to access any kind of proper support network. Good example, if you go onto Refuge, the biggest Domestic Violence charity in the UK, which has detailed guides for females including where to find shelter etc, and find their 'Men' section (which is quite tricky, as its hidden) you are simply given a phone number. That's all the support your getting in your violent relationship bud. Don't think about moving out though..... No wonder blokes are killing themselves left right and centre, and you want me to subscribe to the idea that white men are actually being helped in their times of need. Not really, they are expected to pull through and I suspect most do, but many don't. Still, opinions eh? Mine is mine, yours is yours. I respect that. Let's see if you respect mine.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 17, 2018 14:18:04 GMT
I don’t get this. For years I thought the argument was gay/lesbian athletes wanted to be treated the same as straight ones, surely bowling around with rainbows for laces goes against this? Surely it’s singling them out more? Just play your sport, we shouldn’t have to have these sort of things, it’s 2018, who gives a shit who you like sharing a bed with, it’s sporting prowess that matters. There’s a lot more worthwhile things we could use the reach of football to address, male suicide for a kick off, this is just pandering for something that really shouldn’t be an issue in a modern society. Homophobe.
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Post by stokesupporter on Nov 17, 2018 14:19:01 GMT
The problem is that the clubs and players are basicly forced to do these campaigns because of public pressure. Therefore it's not genuine campaing or statement of anything but simply a thing what they have to do to avoid negative attention. If I were gay I'd probaly hate artificial things like these!
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Post by metalhead on Nov 17, 2018 14:21:16 GMT
Is anyone actually bothered about the laces? I'm not. I think they're a good thing. What I don't think is clever, is how people say "we should wear these laces because gay men are killing themselves". Actually, the biggest killer among ALL men under the age 40 is suicide. The numbers are staggering, but because a large majority of those are straight white men, nobody actually gives a flying fuck. As above, in the comment regarding 'all this propaganda'. Are you really saying that no-one gives a fuck about white straight male suicide? Whilst supporting a club with 'Mind' written in huge letters on the back every shirt? Just to drive my point home: Support for Women www.refuge.org.uk/get-help-now/support-for-women/Support for Men www.refuge.org.uk/get-help-now/help-for-men/i-am-being-abused/Just look at the difference in material. There's nothing for men. That's after you have clarified that you aren't an abuser. Imagine that? Imagine you've suffered domestic violence at the hands of your female partner, and the first question you have to answer on the website of the UK's largest domestic abuse charity, is "ARE YOU THE ABUSER". Wow.... you might as well go fucking hang yourself now boy, you're worthless.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 17, 2018 14:26:56 GMT
The problem is that the clubs and players are basicly forced to do these campaigns because of public pressure. Therefore it's not genuine campaing or statement of anything but simply a thing what they have to do to avoid negative attention. If I were gay I'd probaly hate artificial things like these! camping or campaigning?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 17, 2018 14:26:58 GMT
As above, in the comment regarding 'all this propaganda'. Are you really saying that no-one gives a fuck about white straight male suicide? Whilst supporting a club with 'Mind' written in huge letters on the back every shirt? I don't believe there is a whole lot of help for straight white men, whether they are suffering from mental health issues or domestic violence. It appears you have to subscribe to some kind of 'minority' in order to access any kind of proper support network. Good example, if you go onto Refuge, the biggest Domestic Violence charity in the UK, which has detailed guides for females including where to find shelter etc, and find their 'Men' section (which is quite tricky, as its hidden) you are simply given a phone number. That's all the support your getting in your violent relationship bud. Don't think about moving out though..... No wonder blokes are killing themselves left right and centre, and you want me to subscribe to the idea that white men are actually being helped in their times of need. Not really, they are expected to pull through and I suspect most do, but many don't. Still, opinions eh? Mine is mine, yours is yours. I respect that. Let's see if you respect mine. It's like a while back when someone had the nerve to point out that white, working class boys were falling behind in education. I remember the absolute derision he was greeted with, because he wanted it addressed. I understand the point you are making entirely.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 17, 2018 14:33:26 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/news/potters-backing-rainbow-laces-campaignIf LGBT people want to attend football matches, crack on- I don't think anyone would bat an eyelid. What people do find irritating though is unnecessary virtue-signalling (IMHO of course). I can't imagine rainbow-coloured substitute boards will make any difference whatsoever to LGBT rights around the globe- it will probably massage somebody's ego though. James Maclean likes this
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 17, 2018 14:33:48 GMT
www.stokecityfc.com/news/potters-backing-rainbow-laces-campaignIf LGBT people want to attend football matches, crack on- I don't think anyone would bat an eyelid. What people do find irritating though is unnecessary virtue-signalling (IMHO of course). I can't imagine rainbow-coloured substitute boards will make any difference whatsoever to LGBT rights around the globe- it will probably massage somebody's ego though. While I am prepared fo acept the right for them to live there lives how they see fit I wish they would respect my right not to give a flying fuck and stop the constant barage of propaganda Poor you!!!......I do feel sorry for you darling.
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Post by mrred on Nov 17, 2018 14:35:50 GMT
I know a few gay guys and a female couple. None of them get behind the rainbow flag and just want to carry on like the rest of the world. It's a flag for people that want to actively be marginalised as 'something'. The types of blokes that suddenly change their voice to feminine when they come out, the pink haired lesbian that's angry at men for no reason.
Just fucking get on with it. No one cares. The majority of the western world accepted homosexuality a long time ago.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 17, 2018 14:38:12 GMT
I don't believe there is a whole lot of help for straight white men, whether they are suffering from mental health issues or domestic violence. It appears you have to subscribe to some kind of 'minority' in order to access any kind of proper support network. Good example, if you go onto Refuge, the biggest Domestic Violence charity in the UK, which has detailed guides for females including where to find shelter etc, and find their 'Men' section (which is quite tricky, as its hidden) you are simply given a phone number. That's all the support your getting in your violent relationship bud. Don't think about moving out though..... No wonder blokes are killing themselves left right and centre, and you want me to subscribe to the idea that white men are actually being helped in their times of need. Not really, they are expected to pull through and I suspect most do, but many don't. Still, opinions eh? Mine is mine, yours is yours. I respect that. Let's see if you respect mine. It's like a while back when someone had the nerve to point out that white, working class boys were falling behind in education. I remember the absolute derision he was greeted with, because he wanted it addressed. I understand the point you are making entirely. Who is this 'someone'???....and where is this 'derision'???
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 17, 2018 14:39:13 GMT
I know a few gay guys and a female couple. None of them get behind the rainbow flag and just want to carry on like the rest of the world. It's a flag for people that want to actively be marginalised as 'something'. The types of blokes that suddenly change their voice to feminine when they come out, the pink haired lesbian that's angry at men for no reason. Just fucking get on with it. No one cares. The majority of the western world accepted homosexuality a long time ago. that's very different from my experience.
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