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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 18:52:45 GMT
I can’t see what he did to be dropped either though! He didn't play well at all, going forward he looked alright but he was a shambles defensively. After one game! Or was it two? In any case, any worse than our defender extraordinnaire Mr Pieters! Bad enough to have loanee brought in in his position?
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 4, 2018 18:59:07 GMT
To add an extra dimension of intrigue....he has been dropped from the Austrian squad for the upcoming 2 fixtures. It's not all bad as Kevin Wimmer is included
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 19:14:21 GMT
To add an extra dimension of intrigue....he has been dropped from the Austrian squad for the upcoming 2 fixtures. It's not all bad as Kevin Wimmer is included Unlikely to get a spot if not playing first team football but I hope it’s something else and we’ve not ruined someone else’s career...
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 4, 2018 19:24:02 GMT
He didn't play well at all, going forward he looked alright but he was a shambles defensively. After one game! Or was it two? In any case, any worse than our defender extraordinnaire Mr Pieters! Bad enough to have loanee brought in in his position? 2 but you have to remember thats all Rowett has seen of him, he needs to act quick given how bad our defence has been, its completely understandable that he was dropped, Pieters needs it to, that could be where Clucas has been brought in for.
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Post by citynickscfc on Sept 4, 2018 19:25:20 GMT
To add an extra dimension of intrigue....he has been dropped from the Austrian squad for the upcoming 2 fixtures. It's not all bad as Kevin Wimmer is included Unlikely to get a spot if not playing first team football but I hope it’s something else and we’ve not ruined someone else’s career... I'm not sure I can support this any longer. I will always love the club but the people involved in it seem to be completely incompetent and the decisions being made at board level and team level. As with anything you don't believe in that you find very difficult to have an impact upon I just end up feeling completely disconnected. I used to be so proud (only 3 years ago) but finding out that was only an illusion is only compounding current feelings
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 4, 2018 19:26:40 GMT
To add an extra dimension of intrigue....he has been dropped from the Austrian squad for the upcoming 2 fixtures. It's not all bad as Kevin Wimmer is included Unlikely to get a spot if not playing first team football but I hope it’s something else and we’ve not ruined someone else’s career... Maybe right, although it's only the WBA and Wigan debacle where he hasn't either played or been part of the squad, so he's hardly not match fit so a surprising decision to drop someone who has been included in the squad and started games for the last 6 months or more.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 19:34:22 GMT
Unlikely to get a spot if not playing first team football but I hope it’s something else and we’ve not ruined someone else’s career... Maybe right, although it's only the WBA and Wigan debacle where he hasn't either played or been part of the squad, so he's hardly not match fit so a surprising decision to drop someone who has been included in the squad and started games for the last 6 months or more. Hope you’re right!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 19:37:08 GMT
Unlikely to get a spot if not playing first team football but I hope it’s something else and we’ve not ruined someone else’s career... I'm not sure I can support this any longer. I will always love the club but the people involved in it seem to be completely incompetent and the decisions being made at board level and team level. As with anything you don't believe in that you find very difficult to have an impact upon I just end up feeling completely disconnected. I used to be so proud (only 3 years ago) but finding out that was only an illusion is only compounding current feelings I feel the same. It’s a complete f up on the part of the club. I know he was given the new contract before Rowett came in but if there was a danger of Rowett then not wanting him it should not have been done. It’s not fair on the poor lad. This has happened because of him showing loyalty to the club. We are an embarrassment
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 19:38:15 GMT
After one game! Or was it two? In any case, any worse than our defender extraordinnaire Mr Pieters! Bad enough to have loanee brought in in his position? 2 but you have to remember thats all Rowett has seen of him, he needs to act quick given how bad our defence has been, its completely understandable that he was dropped, Pieters needs it to, that could be where Clucas has been brought in for. Rowett should have done his bloody homework!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 4, 2018 20:11:46 GMT
2 but you have to remember thats all Rowett has seen of him, he needs to act quick given how bad our defence has been, its completely understandable that he was dropped, Pieters needs it to, that could be where Clucas has been brought in for. Rowett should have done his bloody homework! Maybe he did and gave him a chance up close.
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Post by 1982stokie on Sept 4, 2018 20:18:09 GMT
It's a worry when you think how shit some players have been yet Rowett thought Bauer was the main problem in that defence.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 20:20:15 GMT
Rowett should have done his bloody homework! Maybe he did and gave him a chance up close. We clearly have differing views on the level of Rowett’s competence...I do hope you are right!
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 4, 2018 20:26:08 GMT
I'm all for Rowett dropping Bauer 'if' as a result we are winning games. No player should a given to start. Still early days yet the team are still getting to know each other after a lot of changes
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Post by miggoscfc on Sept 4, 2018 20:35:22 GMT
i was at the game Saturday. how was cuco culpable for the 2nd goal? surely Butland being beat at the near post is culpable? cuco looks far more solid than Bauer in defence. I do like Bauer going forward and would use him if we go 3-5-2 I was at the game also. Jack should have saved the 2nd goal without question. Had cuco done his job properly in the 1st place Jack wouldn't have had a save to make at all...hence I wrote that cuco was culpable or partly culpable for both goals...obviously because Jack was also culpable for the 2nd goal. The ball came down west broms right our left, how is cuco to blame its not even his side of the pitch ?
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Post by thebet365 on Sept 4, 2018 20:43:59 GMT
I was at the game also. Jack should have saved the 2nd goal without question. Had cuco done his job properly in the 1st place Jack wouldn't have had a save to make at all...hence I wrote that cuco was culpable or partly culpable for both goals...obviously because Jack was also culpable for the 2nd goal. The ball came down west broms right our left, how is cuco to blame its not even his side of the pitch ? Because it's Martina playing Gayle onside then trying to play him offside (Or just losing him due to his pace) allowing Gayle to get several yards infront of him to go get his shot off.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 4, 2018 21:32:49 GMT
Maybe he did and gave him a chance up close. We clearly have differing views on the level of Rowett’s competence...I do hope you are right! I'm not ready to write a bloke off after only a few games, he's already proven he can do well in this league, nows his chance to show he can go further and I'm glad we offered him the chance, but he needs time not idiots clapping when the opo fans sing sacked in the morning.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 21:41:25 GMT
We clearly have differing views on the level of Rowett’s competence...I do hope you are right! I'm not ready to write a bloke off after only a few games, he's already proven he can do well in this league, nows his chance to show he can go further and I'm glad we offered him the chance, but he needs time not idiots clapping when the opo fans sing sacked in the morning. I didn’t clap that but I have to admit I joined in with “you don’t know what you’re doing” at West Brom...
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 4, 2018 21:42:12 GMT
We clearly have differing views on the level of Rowett’s competence...I do hope you are right! I'm not ready to write a bloke off after only a few games, he's already proven he can do well in this league, nows his chance to show he can go further and I'm glad we offered him the chance, but he needs time not idiots clapping when the opo fans sing sacked in the morning. Was always going to happen if we didn't get off to a flyer playing the fans poster boys. Because of huge incompetence of the past 3 years The job is a Poisoned chalice, the fans want a face to hiss, boo and scream at, it's rowett
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 4, 2018 21:58:27 GMT
I was at the game also. Jack should have saved the 2nd goal without question. Had cuco done his job properly in the 1st place Jack wouldn't have had a save to make at all...hence I wrote that cuco was culpable or partly culpable for both goals...obviously because Jack was also culpable for the 2nd goal. The ball came down west broms right our left, how is cuco to blame its not even his side of the pitch ? Because it was a break away with him and Ryan somehow being 2 v 1 with Gayle. Watch it. It isn't rocket science. He let Gayle run off him and made the most half arsed attempt at getting back to put a challenge in as is feasibly possible
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 4, 2018 22:06:30 GMT
Bauer's a clever lad isn't he? Some managers don't like clever lads. Or... Rowett saw what the Rubin manager saw.... "...Yes, he’s very professional. But football-wise, he’s got some huge shortcomings. There was a time when I finally lost my patience with him. I asked him, before everyone’s eyes, “Moritz, the ball is here, here’s the situation, where should you be?” “Here.” “Are you sure?” “I am sure.” Then I play the video, and he’s standing in a totally different place, and we get a goal from his zone." (Good general interview if interested. I like managers with attention to detail, such as telling his players to pass to the 'far foot' of teammates) russianfootballnews.com/an-interview-with-kurban-berdyev-part-two-moritz-bauer-is-very-professional-but-hes-got-huge-shortcomings/
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 4, 2018 22:09:07 GMT
I'm not ready to write a bloke off after only a few games, he's already proven he can do well in this league, nows his chance to show he can go further and I'm glad we offered him the chance, but he needs time not idiots clapping when the opo fans sing sacked in the morning. Was always going to happen if we didn't get off to a flyer playing the fans poster boys. Because of huge incompetence of the past 3 years The job is a Poisoned chalice, the fans want a face to hiss, boo and scream at, it's rowett He’s hardly helping himself though is he?
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 4, 2018 22:11:09 GMT
After one game! Or was it two? In any case, any worse than our defender extraordinnaire Mr Pieters! Bad enough to have loanee brought in in his position? 2 but you have to remember thats all Rowett has seen of him, he needs to act quick given how bad our defence has been, its completely understandable that he was dropped, Pieters needs it to, that could be where Clucas has been brought in for. Why hasn't Rowett dropped Ryan then?
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Post by thehoof on Sept 4, 2018 23:01:26 GMT
2 but you have to remember thats all Rowett has seen of him, he needs to act quick given how bad our defence has been, its completely understandable that he was dropped, Pieters needs it to, that could be where Clucas has been brought in for. Why hasn't Rowett dropped Ryan then? Because when your options are Williams and BMI you stick with the best of a bad bunch.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Sept 4, 2018 23:06:26 GMT
When Lambert took over our backline was well organized and Bauer was part of that, so this "he doesn't rate defensively" theory doesn't always hold true. Maybe he was toss the first couple of matches, but to be dropped all the way to the U21s is crap.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 4, 2018 23:12:22 GMT
2 but you have to remember thats all Rowett has seen of him, he needs to act quick given how bad our defence has been, its completely understandable that he was dropped, Pieters needs it to, that could be where Clucas has been brought in for. Why hasn't Rowett dropped Ryan then? For who?
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Post by albundy on Sept 4, 2018 23:18:12 GMT
When Lambert took over our backline was well organized and Bauer was part of that, so this "he doesn't rate defensively" theory doesn't always hold true. Maybe he was toss the first couple of matches, but to be dropped all the way to the U21s is crap. Lambert played him on the left wing !!
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Post by mrteddysalad on Sept 4, 2018 23:23:50 GMT
When Lambert took over our backline was well organized and Bauer was part of that, so this "he doesn't rate defensively" theory doesn't always hold true. Maybe he was toss the first couple of matches, but to be dropped all the way to the U21s is crap. Lambert played him on the left wing !! actually I think he played him at RWB, LWB, LW and RW because my main man Moritz be versatile
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 5, 2018 1:28:57 GMT
We clearly have differing views on the level of Rowett’s competence...I do hope you are right! I'm not ready to write a bloke off after only a few games, he's already proven he can do well in this league, nows his chance to show he can go further and I'm glad we offered him the chance, but he needs time not idiots clapping when the opo fans sing sacked in the morning. That's sporting of you, although you seem to be supporting Rowett writing off Bauer after just a few games.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Sept 5, 2018 2:03:46 GMT
I think Bauer has always shown commitment, worked hard and given his best heart and soul ....I think He deserves to be on the pitch...he lets Fletcher play and ffs he’s about as much use as Adam, at least Adam has a size advantage he can block the sun out if he stands in the right place ...just wish he’d stop tackling the other side...as Denis Smith said the other week “ Adam should be told to stop tackling the opposition, he’s no good at it “. Bauer is capable of running up the pitch with the football and putting a cross in !! It’s a refreshing concept and could catch on if he plays ..
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Post by robrigo on Sept 5, 2018 6:32:40 GMT
I can understand to a degree why Moritz isn’t on the pitch for the first team, that’s the managers prerogative and he lives and dies by those decisions. He’s currently dying.
But for Bauer to be bombed from the squad completely when we are losing the majority of our games is insanity. He should be on the bench at the very least.
Is it to much to ask to want our club back please.
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